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BARBEQUE SEASON IS NIGH_needalittle help

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2007 03:13 pm
I can understand the celibacy, but forswearing swine.
OY!!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2007 04:18 pm
Old rabbi and an old priest are sitting in the sun in a park, enjoying their "golden years." The priest leans over and says:

So, Herschel, did you ever eat a ham sandwich?

Why, yes, Paddy, i did and i liked it.


They sit a little while longer, and the rabbis leans over and says:

So, Paddy . . . did you ever get laid?

Paddy reddens a little, and hems and haws, then:

Well, yes, before i went into the seminary . . . you know, when i still thought i might join the Navy.

Beats the hell out of pork, doesn't it?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 27 Apr, 2007 04:40 pm
I've been good and didn't post just this last week's more-news-on-how-bad bbq, etc. is for us. I like bbq a lot, but amnt a connoisseur. Have read articles about the whole hog in a pit cookery. I'd sure like to try it once, with someone else doing the work, but I also get farmer's qualms. (Have also seen a whole pig on table with apple, in Monteriggioni, urppppp. Tuscany has a big hunt culture, so it fits, but was a chance to blink for me.) In the case of the whole hog thing, I'm not sooooo sure JL's (and my) health qualms apply entirely... dunno.






Additional note, spell check corrected bbq as bag, and then gave me no clue about urppppp, or connoisseur, much less the on purpose 'amnt'. Hiss.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 28 Apr, 2007 06:03 pm
Made several cuts of pork today in the smoker. I did a version of Mckenzie's rub a dub. (I cut waay down on the cumin and cut out the bay leaves , couldnt find a pestle and didnt wanna use the Vitamix grinding rig, its a PITA to clean and it scares the cat its so damn loud. Everything worked out fine. We had 2 big butts and a shoulder roast for "pickin sammiches". Both came out really flavory and my mop sauce is one of the Stubbs brand (I hope Mr STubbs can send me some free bbq sauce cause I used about 3 quarts today), and his is THEEEE BEST!! . Its the one says "My life is in these bottles". You can vinegar up the Carolina sauce or water the sweet down or add any liquid , like wine to the others cause you dont wanna use these mop sauces straight. Theyll burn too much and make a black rind and Im not patient enough at standing by the cooker like some obsessed Bobby Flay. As the bbq gets close to being done, I wrap em in tin foil with some tears in it just so the meat gets a nice crust but not black
We had guests and I made everybody (couples or families) a bluebird box since these are all our neghbors and they have pastures and paddocks and nobody but us has bluebirds . Im now turning our little part of the township into a bluebird sanctuary (Hee hee hee, its all going according to plan).
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reverend hellh0und
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2007 09:32 am
farmerman wrote:
Reverend, I took your recipe down in size and it seemed ok.(I usually only do a pork butt or shoulder as the largets cut) or maybe 2 large slabs of ribs , beef is usually a brisket. I dont do a whole hog. My neighbor raises hogs and has a few that are really friendly. I dont think I could eat one of them. Ive eaten a whole hog barbeque and everybody acts like cannibals. Its disgraceful good.




I was toying with the recipe over the weekend on a 15# fresh pork shoulder and lowered the paprika content and added chipotle chili powder and a new mexican chili blend. It was a hit.


Was it still too salty for you?
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reverend hellh0und
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2007 09:33 am
JLNobody wrote:
To me the very best meat is pork and pulled pork is next to Devilish-Godliness. BUT I have given up all barbecuing and grilling. What I like the best is the most dangerous part, the black char on meat. It's been about 10 years now since I gave up the habit. I would, violate my health and moral rules to indulge in tugged-upon swine with Farmerman and adultrous sex with ____________.




What depths of hell have you put yourself in? Life is for living...... Man I feel for you! Laughing
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reverend hellh0und
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2007 09:36 am
reverend hellh0und wrote:
farmerman wrote:
Reverend, I took your recipe down in size and it seemed ok.(I usually only do a pork butt or shoulder as the largets cut) or maybe 2 large slabs of ribs , beef is usually a brisket. I dont do a whole hog. My neighbor raises hogs and has a few that are really friendly. I dont think I could eat one of them. Ive eaten a whole hog barbeque and everybody acts like cannibals. Its disgraceful good.




I was toying with the recipe over the weekend on a 15# fresh pork shoulder and lowered the paprika content and added chipotle chili powder and a new mexican chili blend. It was a hit.


For a mop I use a spreay bottle with cider vinegar and apple juice.


Sauce? Well I use a homemade apple infused sauce made from scratch.


Hickory and applewood for smoke,.


Was it still too salty for you?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 1 May, 2007 11:50 am
just a bit. Ive toyed with the addition of more lemon juice and that , when smoked, adds a nice taste without being too salty.
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reverend hellh0und
 
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Reply Wed 2 May, 2007 10:40 am
farmerman wrote:
just a bit. Ive toyed with the addition of more lemon juice and that , when smoked, adds a nice taste without being too salty.


We are still talking pork here right?

Lemon? Man Thats an odd addition. This is in your mop right? As that would make for an interesting rub.


Do you use iodized salt? That puts in IMO an undesirable flavor. I stick to sea salt cause I feel funny putting kosher salt on pork. Laughing You could try course ground as opposed to fine too.

I guess another question is how much salt do you put on your steak when you go to eat it (baseline to what is TOO salty Laughing)

I find that if you are foiling mopping does not need to have to many flavors in it, like I said, I use apple juice or cider and a little cider vinegar in a spray bottle just to keep the outside moist.


How much are you rubbing in your meat? I have found that each rub has a certain limit to the amount you add to the butt. For example that byron doods "Butt Rub" which is WAY too salty actually tastes very good when you use about 1/4 to 1/2 of what you would on another rub, just a lite dusting.


What kind of wood do you use? That will bring out flavors and essences too. Mesquite I know has that same twang that salt does and it will enhance any saltyness, Hickory to a lesser extent too. Also not soaking your chunks and the bark will add some bitterness.....


Another thought is I think you mentioned you like Stubbs sauce. That in itself has a TON of sodium PLUS it has MSG which is like the barry bonds of salt! I stay away from that stuff not for any health reasons, just it to me adds that wierd salt taste.


Stubbs BBQ Sauce: Sodium 210mg 9%
Stubbs Moppin sauce: Sodium 320mg 13%

and much of that is MSG.




What sort of BBQ flavor do you go for?


The vinegary SE kind? (NC?) KC? Memphis dry? Texas (big bold almost A1 type flavors like stubbs)?


Sweet?

Sweet and tangy?


Spicy?




I am just rattling thoughts off the top of my head, not that I don't think you know any of this or anything......
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 2 May, 2007 03:22 pm
Reverend, I am living with essential hypertension and try to watch salt intake. I swap the K salts for the Na salts and ,Ive only liked Stubbs as a mop , I dilute and doctor even that. I find that lemon and Tabasco are nice salt moderators and , I too use sea salt cause its less Na and has a lot of the "K" flavor.

Im sensitive to the flavor of Na salt , and agree that the iodizing has a "bitter' aftertaste.On a steak, I tend to use lemon and pepper more than even dousing with "no salt" salt. Ive combined a bunch of herbs and lemon and K Citrate into a sort of "Mrs DAsh's flavor enhancer". Ever since Ive reduced my salt intake , I dont really miss it and dont crave it.

Ive never thought much about my all time favorite Que, but the Piedmont Nc/SC for pork, and the Oklahoma or new Mexico style for beef would have to be up there for me.

Im not familiar with Memphis "dry style" whats innit?

Oh, another thing, I cannot stand cumin.
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reverend hellh0und
 
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Reply Fri 4 May, 2007 07:35 am
farmerman wrote:
Reverend, I am living with essential hypertension and try to watch salt intake. I swap the K salts for the Na salts and ,Ive only liked Stubbs as a mop , I dilute and doctor even that. I find that lemon and Tabasco are nice salt moderators and , I too use sea salt cause its less Na and has a lot of the "K" flavor.

Im sensitive to the flavor of Na salt , and agree that the iodizing has a "bitter' aftertaste.On a steak, I tend to use lemon and pepper more than even dousing with "no salt" salt. Ive combined a bunch of herbs and lemon and K Citrate into a sort of "Mrs DAsh's flavor enhancer". Ever since Ive reduced my salt intake , I dont really miss it and dont crave it.

Ive never thought much about my all time favorite Que, but the Piedmont Nc/SC for pork, and the Oklahoma or new Mexico style for beef would have to be up there for me.

Im not familiar with Memphis "dry style" whats innit?

Oh, another thing, I cannot stand cumin.


Sorry to hear that, Good To see your love of Q is unwavered though...


Memphis style puts the sauce on the side and redusts the ribs right before serving. Can be real real good.


I lived in NM. Whats NM style?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 05:45 pm
Thought Id resurrect this thread about BArbecue. Im making a pile of pork butts and some ribs this weekend and have settled on a favorite rub from the previous list that I got two years ago.

NOW, Im thinkin SIDES. Besides baked beans, whats a good and slightly different side. I like hush puppies but never learned to do them well. Mine were always dry
Sglass
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 01:06 am
Here's my favorite from the 4 Sixes Ranch.

cut up a whole bunch of onions
pours 3 cans beer over it
add whole bunches of pork or beef ribs and simmer until the fat is rendered.
remove meat and drain
retain some of the liquid and cooked onions

in a separate pan put coarsely ground coffee, add water and bring to a boil and boil the hell out of it until the coffee is very bitter. drain the coffee grounds, retaining the liquid.

chop up whole lots of garlic. combine the coffee with the liquid from the onions and beer, add the garlic and your favorite seasonings along with any old off the shelf bbq sauce. (I use cilantro, s & p, red dried chilies, liquid smoke)

marinate one or two days then throw them on the grill. to die for.

seaglass loves Texas cooking.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 04:44 am
@Sglass,
This sorta sounds like the old Ewell Gibbons recipe for cooking carp on a plank
Mame
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 06:36 am
@farmerman,
Grilled corn on the cob. Salads - there's a bazillion recipes out there. Spinach pie (I have a great recipe) - always a favourite in my camps.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 07:30 am
@Mame,
next month im having a BBQ!

im making chicken of some sort, beef of somesort , pork of some sort, and skirt steak is definitely on the menu, aka carne asada!
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 07:30 am
@OGIONIK,
this post is on my list. >=D
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Sglass
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 02:11 pm
@farmerman,
Aha, "Stalking The Wild Asparagus".
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 03:36 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
Im not a big cumin fan. (Reminds me too much of BO)


That's interesting for an evolutionist. I thought sexual selection was conditioned to a considerable extent by BO.

Try some perfume effemm. That's all lies.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2009 05:11 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
Although Ive worked with Sadarjhis, I guess I never learned to spell it correctly. (Hey thats normal for me anyway). The ghurka was the name of the knife that was a term they used . The cut down version of a scimitar like shape , but was a smaller version. .I knew about the underwear thing , it was explained to me in great detail . As well as the carefully manicured hair and beard. Many of the men wore like hair nets and had these huge elaborate moustaches. One of the guys I had on staff was an MIT trained PhD chemical engineer with special talent in nuclear liquid wste processing. He was so good that We were working for one of the National Nuke labs and he reconstructed the plants chem process just from knowing everything that was in their waste stream. We then got visited and were given very strict direction about all this from the FBI. All of our plans and reports were then given an eyes only status.


As soon as I spotted this thread I knew right away that it was just a lead in to effemm having a good old "what a good boy am I" orgy. Every thread he starts is just the same.

He really is a big cheese isn't he. It's a pity he doesn't know that big cheeses act like gumps in order to be more effective.
 

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