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Would you go out on a date with celebrity?

 
 
Chai
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 11:28 am
awwww.....
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 11:37 am
ehBeth wrote:
Lunch/date/whatever.

People, famous or not, generally end up in relationships.

No particular reason it can't be with someone nice like me.


Good luck, Girl . . . whom did you have in mind?
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 11:48 am
Bruce Willis, Benicio Del Toro, Bono...

(this requires langorous meditation...and sex toys...LOL)
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Mame
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 11:52 am
Lash, does this mean you have sex on a first date? lol

I'd like to go on a date with a comedien, like Billy Crystal. I also like Robin Williams but I think he'would be way over the top - or maybe he wouldn't be trying to make me laugh the whole time, who knows? I've seen him get kind of extreme in interviews.

I'd like to have dinner (but not on a date) with Joanne Woodward - I think she'd be an interesting conversationalist.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 12:10 pm
Mame wrote:
Lash, does this mean you have sex on a first date? lol

I'd like to go on a date with a comedien, like Billy Crystal. I also like Robin Williams but I think he'would be way over the top - or maybe he wouldn't be trying to make me laugh the whole time, who knows? I've seen him get kind of extreme in interviews.

I'd like to have dinner (but not on a date) with Joanne Woodward - I think she'd be an interesting conversationalist.

Perish the thought! LOL
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 03:42 pm
Chai wrote:
Or, do you just want to talk about films THAT celebrity was in? In that case, you'd be in luck if you picked someone who wanted to talk about themselves

Oooh I dont think the odds of a celebrity wanting to talk about himself are all that bad Razz

Seriously though, in any case - first date, you often (each, as you ask each other about it) talk about yourself, what you do, how you like it, what interests you in it, etc... Doesnt seem like too outrageous a surmise for some conversation on a first date.

Chai wrote:
It's just like I said before, I would have no idea if I would like to have a date with some celebrity than I would know if I wanted a date with a complete stranger walking across the street.

Uhm, dude(tte). That makes no sense. Complete stranger walking across the street - I dont know what interests him/her. My favourite singer - I know she is into music (which I'm heavily into); I know she is into exactly the music I like, must have had similar influences and inspirations; I know she's given lots of interesting concerts in interesting places, travelled a lot (always good for interesting conversation in someone who can express themselves well, which would certainly be the case with the kind of singer I like); I know she met other people I'd like to know more about; I know what her lyrics are about and what I've always wanted to ask her about them, and by deduction, what kind of things she's picked up, very roughly speaking, in life; etc etc etc.

You have a bit of a silly argument here, to be honest. One knows a lot more about one's favourite singer (or writer or actor or whatnot) and what could be interesting about her/him, than about a complete stranger walking across the street. Of course (just to pre-empt the obvious) a date can still turn out to be lame or boring nevertheless. But chances that you'll learn something interesting or have something in common to share/talk about are logically larger than with a complete random stranger.

Chai wrote:
and yeah, I think nuclear physics would be tons more interesting to talk about than movies or songs.

Ah, yeah. Music and film are just "superficial" subjects that you wouldnt want to spend your date talking on - instead, something like nuclear physics would be so much more interesting for you. That must explain why a quick A2K search for posts

  • by Chai on "music" = 67 matches
  • by Chai on "song" = 83 matches
  • by Chai on "movie" = 152 matches
  • by Chai on "film" = 47 matches
and

  • by Chai on "physics" = 4 matches
  • by Chai on "nuclear physics" = 1 match (the one just now)

Seriously Laughing
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 05:13 pm
Now don't get me started NIMH...I am in the midst of being apopletic with someone on another thread dealing with Coca-Cola and Pepsi Cola and price fixing and monopolies.

I can't be everywhere. Very Happy
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stuh505
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 08:56 pm
Girls only say they are interested in talking about nuclear physics until you start talking about it. They are like, proton-proton-wha? So I heard Britney got a haircut.
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Chai
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 05:08 am
Maybe some girls feel that way, but not women. Don't make such sweeping statements stuh.

You know, just because a members name is search with a particular word and it comes up with X amounts of hits, does not mean that person is enraptured with the subject.

Case in point, if "music" comes up often with my name, it's largely because I had started a thread, and participated on another, where I was asking if there were others like me who found listening to music nervous making, distracting and pretty much all around unpleasant for any extended period of time, let's say 5 to 10 minutes.

OK, getting away from specific subjects like "music" and "nuclear physics" which can be dissected ad nauseum, my point seems to have been buried under semantics.

Recalling the conversations I've flaired up with strangers over the last few years, the ones that stick out in my mind where ones that concerned finance, banking systems, geology and plate tetonics, ancient Roman civilization and medical breakthroughs on serious diseases. Except for an environmental geologist, none of the other people worked in the field of the subject we discussed.

The initial question was "would you go out with a celebrity"?

My personal answer is, not if I had not sat with that person first and have had conversation with him/her. I would want to discover first hand what they have to offer me, as well I'm sure they would want to know whether or not they'd want to spend further time with me.

The necessary 2nd part of this question is "would a celebrity want to go out with YOU"?

So far, it's more or less been assumed that some person with some sort of fame is a commodity sitting up on a shelf, one that any one of us could say, "sure, I'd go on a date with this person because they do xyz for a living, and we could talk about xyz and go and do hijklmnop and have fun".

So, I stand by my answer that I'd no sooner go out with a celebrity than a stranger on the street, until I'd had an opportunity to find out if the 2 of us would care to spend time together.

I would be bored to tears and probably use the excuse of going to the ladies room to leave if someone wanted to talk about celebrity haircuts.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 05:30 am
Hmm.. Im a woman who would hate to talk only about celebrity b/s on a date.

As an ice breaker conversation?? ehhhh.. ok.
I mean, if I am sitting down with someone I have never met before, famous or not , a simple ice breaking conversation could be celebrity talk. Hands down.
That is a good ice breaker for anyone.

So is talking about what you do for a living.

I know, when I have met people , we do share some time talking about what we do for a living.

But, with a celebrity, I am willing to bet that they wouldn't want to talk only about themselves for the entire conversation . ( well most people I know wouldn't want to do that.. but that is another point entirely.)
And i am willing to bet that the celeb would be tired of answering the same questions over and over again as if they didn't think of anything else , or do anything else in their lives.

I know a handful of people that are considered famous.
And they tell me how tired they get of people asking them about their work.It is almost as if they have to BE that character for ever. Not them, not just an average person,t hey ARE who ever they played in the last movie, or what ever book they wrote.

On a human level, it is nice to talk about what you do for a living. Your job is a huge part of you wether you like it or not. But, when it comes to be famous for it, it ends up defining you and people sometimes dont get that.
In fact, I have lost a friend to that very struggle.
She became someone I did not know.
We could not go anywhere with out people following her and demanding autographs only to literally spit at her if she said no. She had no life. She couldn't leave her home because people would go insane and drill her about her latest character, role .. or what have you.
They would call her by the characters name.. wich.. I would have never thought about it.. but it was a real insult.
It was like saying " Hey , you don't do anything else, and there isn't anything interesting enough about you "

But I am getting side tracked.
This isn't about celeb's lives this is about would you date one..

and since I have, I would say yes.
Would I do it again?
Only if I knew them BEFORE they were famous.
I cant handle being chased because of who I know. And since that would not be the celeb's fault, and nothing they could control, I would not do it


(edited for spelling)
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 05:36 am
actually.. I should retract my statement of having dated a celeb.

I HAVE .. but not to like. Brad pitts caliber..

But I have dated someone who has had spots in moves about 5-20 minutes long. Faces that, only if you pull up the movie and stop the screen will you say " OH YEAHH! THAT guy.."

Noone, anyone knows the name of, but if one single person seemed to recognize his face, our entire date was over.

People would crowd around , even if they didn't know him, and demand an autograph simply because he was in a movie.
It is the PEOPLE that make a person a celeb that would make me say no to any of them vs them themselves.
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Chai
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 06:22 am
That must be really terrible.

To have people think you BELONG to them because they recognize your face.

As Greta Garbo said in "Grand Hotel"..."I want to be let alone"
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 06:56 am
Meanwhile, no one is helping me figure out how to do it with Bruce Willis... Isn't that what we're doing here...?
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 08:39 am
shewolfnm wrote:
Hmm.. Im a woman who would hate to talk only about celebrity b/s on a date. [..]

But, with a celebrity, I am willing to bet that they wouldn't want to talk only about themselves for the entire conversation .

OK, am I crazy or is it not necessarily a question of "celebrity b/s" to think you could have an interesting conversation about music with someone who's actually a musician? Same like you can have an interesting conversation about plate tectonics with someone who is a geologist?

Also, that it doesnt necessarily mean "talking only about themselves"? Seems to me that the fact that they are passionate about something that you are fascinated by (music, film, literature) makes for a fairly obvious common interest (ie: not their celebrityhood, but music, film, or literature), which you wouldnt have the same chance of finding with a random stranger across the street?

Seems pretty straightforward to me..

Chai wrote:
The necessary 2nd part of this question is "would a celebrity want to go out with YOU"?

No, it isnt actually. The thread had a pretty straightforward question - would you? There is no necesseray collorary (sp?) to it - its just a question of curiosity. Only if someone would start a thread about actually planning how to go about it etc would your second part become "necessary" to any standard.

But yeah of course, chatty questions of mere curiosity will also always bring out the people who see in it the chance to assert how superior they are ("I would never be so shallow"). Its all free and part of the deal. No pain.
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Chai
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 08:54 am
well, considering the original poster has been long gone from this thread, and from looking at her other posts her interests are watching family guy and the simpsons...

we've done what has been done on a thousand other threads nimh...we've taken the initial subject and exponded on it, and grown it.

Otherwise, if you wanted to stay strictly to subject, after the initial question, everyone should have just posted "yes" or "no"

We're just having conversation nimh, there is no right or wrong.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 09:08 am
Chai wrote:
Maybe some girls feel that way, but not women. Don't make such sweeping statements stuh.


That would make more sense, but it would reduce the number of broad generalizations I could make, which I do enjoy making...hmm...I'll take a note of that for future consideration, but I'm warning you it might be vetoed.

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You know, just because a members name is search with a particular word and it comes up with X amounts of hits, does not mean that person is enraptured with the subject.


Yeah, I hear you on this one. For one thing it is highly inaccurate, because many (most?) discussions would not involve the subject name. For another thing, I think it is invasive...even though our posts are public. It is a bit of a "low blow" in terms of a discussion tactic. Finally, just because you like to talk about something, does not mean you talk about that something on A2K. You say you like to talk about nuclear physics, and I believe you.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 09:37 am
stuh505 wrote:
Finally, just because you like to talk about something, does not mean you talk about that something on A2K. You say you like to talk about nuclear physics, and I believe you.

Oh, I believe her too... I had an interesting conversation about lethal disease treatment with a doctor the other day, and thats sure not something Ive ever talked about here.

No, its the whole, "I would be sooo bored by superficial talk about music and acting and stuff" thing that I dont buy into, when someone's chatted plenty about those same subjects here on A2K. Just seems like posturing really.. sorta silly, if nothing else.

But - the point that fact-checking someone's random wild assertion with what they actually wrote before is a "low blow", according to you, is noted - and disagreed with. Smile
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 09:42 am
Chai wrote:
Otherwise, if you wanted to stay strictly to subject, after the initial question, everyone should have just posted "yes" or "no"

We're just having conversation nimh, there is no right or wrong.

Well, my point exactly. Hence disagreeing with your assertion that anyone asking the question of this thread is committed and bound to ask "the necessary 2nd part of this question", namely "would a celebrity want to go out with YOU"?

No, he/she isnt. The thread's just about asking a question of curiosity, no "necessary" 2nd part involved. Why the judgementalness?
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 09:42 am
Chai is well known to readers of The American Journal of Physics for her analyses of mathematical models related to nuclear fission. I do not blame her for avoiding the subject on A2K.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2007 09:43 am
Laughing
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