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Something Wicked This Way Comes!

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 12:59 pm
Sturgis wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
You are not likely to find a politician that has told the truth 100% of the time. I can't think of any at all. Bush dwarfs them all for hypocracy.

However, the majority of people who criticize George also say he is an idiot so he cannot actually be responsible for the things he has said...he's clearly not bright enough according to the masses. Hillary on the other hand is said to be intelligent and shrewd. Keep in mind, shrewd is somewhat synonymous with evil and untruths.


Conservative Bush-haters sing in B flat...
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...that the Reagan Revolution has crested and begun to recede is the theme of a wide shelf of angry conservative books, ranging from Bruce Bartlett's "Imposter" and Stephen Slivinski's "Buck Wild" to Patrick J. Buchanan's "State of Emergency," Jeffrey Hart's "The Making of the American Conservative Mind," and Andrew Sullivan's "The Conservative Soul." Not only that, but the authors of these tomes identify the chief enemy of the Reagan Revolution as none other than George W. Bush. With his wasteful spending, his lax immigration policies, his willingness to cater to influential lobbyists, his aggressively "utopian" foreign policy, and his exploitation of religion, Bush, in the summary judgment of the direct-mail maven Richard Viguerie, may have "talked like a conservative to win our votes, but never governed like a conservative." Viguerie's own recent book, "Conservatives Betrayed," bears the subtitle: "How George W. Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Conservative Cause."
http://opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110009532
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squinney
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 01:02 pm
What was the problem with her health care plan? All I remember is the ruckus over her being the first lady and (gasp) having the audacity to think she could come up with a possible solution.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 01:05 pm
The private companies convinced the public they would be treated the way the private companies now are treating them, and they backed away from it.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 01:06 pm
blatham wrote:
Sturgis wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
You are not likely to find a politician that has told the truth 100% of the time. I can't think of any at all. Bush dwarfs them all for hypocracy.

However, the majority of people who criticize George also say he is an idiot so he cannot actually be responsible for the things he has said...he's clearly not bright enough according to the masses. Hillary on the other hand is said to be intelligent and shrewd. Keep in mind, shrewd is somewhat synonymous with evil and untruths.


Conservative Bush-haters sing in B flat...
Quote:
...that the Reagan Revolution has crested and begun to recede is the theme of a wide shelf of angry conservative books, ranging from Bruce Bartlett's "Imposter" and Stephen Slivinski's "Buck Wild" to Patrick J. Buchanan's "State of Emergency," Jeffrey Hart's "The Making of the American Conservative Mind," and Andrew Sullivan's "The Conservative Soul." Not only that, but the authors of these tomes identify the chief enemy of the Reagan Revolution as none other than George W. Bush. With his wasteful spending, his lax immigration policies, his willingness to cater to influential lobbyists, his aggressively "utopian" foreign policy, and his exploitation of religion, Bush, in the summary judgment of the direct-mail maven Richard Viguerie, may have "talked like a conservative to win our votes, but never governed like a conservative." Viguerie's own recent book, "Conservatives Betrayed," bears the subtitle: "How George W. Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Conservative Cause."
http://opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110009532
Of course the problem here Blatham is that I am not associated with the second quote and I must tell you I find it offensive that you use it as a tie to my statements which you have incidentally altered by taking them out of context. They were part of a response to someone else and within that area they were applicable and proper. Again; however, the most irksome matter was deciding that all Conservative minded people think in one way and then tieing my comments into that. Conservatives have their own minds and their own thoughts and follow what they believe in unlike many (you will note I said many, not all) liberals who just vote against the other side no matter what it is. Hey, if that's how you choose to live, then go for it. Just don't come crying to me when you lose your rights and your life because of your stupidity.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 01:16 pm
squinney wrote:
What was the problem with her health care plan? All I remember is the ruckus over her being the first lady and (gasp) having the audacity to think she could come up with a possible solution.


First off, it was Bill Clinton's campaign issue to reform health care in
the United States. Then he formed a health care reform task where Hillary
was the head of. After that the national health care reform was in
everybody's mind, yet no one knew for certain what it entailed. Hillary
talked a big game, but no concrete plan and budget was submitted.
Then her father became ill and she left for Little Rock. Upon returning
the national health plan fizzled into nirvana.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 01:29 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
squinney wrote:
What was the problem with her health care plan? All I remember is the ruckus over her being the first lady and (gasp) having the audacity to think she could come up with a possible solution.


First off, it was Bill Clinton's campaign issue to reform health care in
the United States. Then he formed a health care reform task where Hillary
was the head of. After that the national health care reform was in
everybody's mind, yet no one knew for certain what it entailed. Hillary
talked a big game, but no concrete plan and budget was submitted.
Then her father became ill and she left for Little Rock. Upon returning
the national health plan fizzled into nirvana.
And this has always been my biggest beef...well, at least the first...about Clinton. I still vividly recall him preaching to the country, while waving around a plastic card, saying all of us would have one for health care, that there would be a health care plan for all Americans and how he would not do anything else until it was passed. After it was presented...in a very large and weighty format...it was dropped. No discussions were made afterwards, Hillary never explained how she had come up with what she had and Pfft...Bill Clinton forgot all about it and the Democrats spent the next several years ignoring it entirely. For the record, this was where my votes started shifting towards the Republican column.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 01:41 pm
sturgis enjoined
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Just don't come crying to me when you lose your... life

You have my promise.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 04:28 pm
...AMERICA'S "IRON LADY" ?...
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jan, 2007 09:48 pm


Just an illusion-builder. There should be no resemblance in actual fact.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 07:09 am
Unlike Ms. Thatcher, Hillary is a Socialist and published her positions in writing.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 07:40 am
OK .. SO SHE'S IN

Well, well. Big surprise. Hillary Rodham has decided that she's in, and she's "in to win."

Oh goody.

The news over the weekend really wasn't that Hillary is in the presidential race; the news is that the media treated it as such a stunning surprise. To listen to CNN on Saturday, you would have thought that nothing was going on anywhere else in the entire known world. Now was it just me, or did the mainstream media sound positively orgasmic over Clinton's announcement?

The New Hampshire primary is one year away -- unless they move it up. There is plenty of time to watch Hillary and tell you the stories you won't see in the mainstream media. Let's just cover the basics:

* Hillary Clinton is vicious. There is absolutely nothing that she won't do to gain the political power she has been coveting for most of her life. She is a cold-blooded politician who will take no prisoners in her quest for the presidency.
* Hillary Clinton heads the list of those who think that America is great because of its government.
* Hillary Clinton believes that Americans get their rights from government. If you don't know why this is a dangerous attitude, you probably attended government schools.
* Speaking of government schools, with Hillary Rodham you can forget the idea of school choice. The teacher's unions will continue to run the show.
* Hillary holds our military is complete disdain. Remember, this is the woman who had U.S. Marines in their dress blue uniforms serving cheese and crackers to guests at White House functions. When her husband was president there were repeated stories that Hillary's White House staff showed deliberate rudeness to military personnel. In one story you've probably forgotten a Hillary aid in the White House once told a uniformed military office that "We don't talk to people in military uniforms in this office."
* Hillary tried to implement a health care plan that would have made it a crime for you to use your own dollars to hire your own doctor. Now think about that for a moment. How much else do you need to know? She actually wanted to make it a crime for you to arrange for your own medical care outside of her great Hillarycare system using your own dollars. Picture this. You're sitting in a jail cell. Your cellmate is in there for bank robbery. He looks at you and says "So, what did you do?" You tell him "Oh ... I tried to hire a doctor with my own money to take care of a medical problem." That, my friends, is Hillary's America.
* Hillary Rodham is a disgrace to the institution of marriage. That relationship she has with Bill Clinton is no marriage at all. It is a political partnership entered into for the purpose of acquiring and maintaining political power. Nothing more.
* Hillary has not only tolerated her "husband's" many trysts with other women, she has been actively engaged in, and sometimes led, the effort to destroy any of these women who dared to step forward to complain.
* She is fundamentally dishonest ... almost pathologically dishonest. Perhaps the greatest example of her innate dishonesty would be the saga of the Rose Law Firm billing records. The congress served a subpoena on Hillary for those records. She said that she did not have them. For two years she denied that those records were in her possession, and in fact suggested that they may not exist at all. Then, two years after the subpoena was served, those very records were found in her private living quarters at the White House. Not only were they found, but they had her fingerprints and handwriting all over them. In other words .. she lied.
* Hillary Clinton is anti-individual. When discussing her socialized medicine plan with a group of Republican congressmen in 1993 Hillary said "We have to stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society." No .. she's wrong. We have to start thinking about what it would be like to have a president who put the common good above individual rights. Hillary Rodham is part and parcel of the war on individualism.

A bit more about Hillary Rodham and your health care:

Now that Hillary Clinton is officially in the race, she is choosing health care as her signature issue. What a great idea...it worked so
well before. By the way, anybody notice how it was warm and sunny out her office window in her videotaped announcement that she was running? Seems like that little piece of tape was recorded in advance. Many people have noticed, by the way. There's late word that the announcement was indeed taped in Washington last week. Maybe it's a fake tree in the window behind her. Who knows. But back to health care.

So what is Hillary's health care proposal going to be this time? Things didn't work out so well 13 years ago when she proposed a government takeover of the medical industry. Says The Hildabeast: "I will be introducing legislation to make quality, affordable health care available to every child in America." What does that mean? just covering children? It would seem so. Well, according to Hillary...anyone would be able to buy into her program. And just how much is all of this going to cost? Naturally, no mention of the price tag. But suffice it to say that if Hillary Clinton becomes president of the United States, your earnings will be confiscated to pay for other people's health care. Just get used to the idea.

And don't buy for a minute this routine that Hillary Clinton only jumped in because Barack Obama forced her to. She has been planning this move for decades...and everything unfolding right now is part of that plan. It all goes back to when she was running things and wearing the pants in her husband's administration. Except now it's her turn.
Know this. If Hillary Clinton becomes President Rodham, and if the Democrats increase their hold on power in the congress, this will be the last presidential election in which talk radio will play any significant part at all. Though I've been telling you this for years, it has become clear in the last few weeks that Democrats plan to destroy talk radio with the resurrection of the so-called "Fairness Doctrine."
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woiyo
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 08:12 am
* Hillary Clinton heads the list of those who think that America is great because of its government.
* Hillary Clinton believes that Americans get their rights from government. If you don't know why this is a dangerous attitude, you probably attended government schools.
* Speaking of government schools, with Hillary Rodham you can forget the idea of school choice. The teacher's unions will continue to run the show.
* Hillary holds our military is complete disdain. Remember, this is the woman who had U.S. Marines in their dress blue uniforms serving cheese and crackers to guests at White House functions. When her husband was president there were repeated stories that Hillary's White House staff showed deliberate rudeness to military personnel. In one story you've probably forgotten a Hillary aid in the White House once told a uniformed military office that "We don't talk to people in military uniforms in this office."
* Hillary tried to implement a health care plan that would have made it a crime for you to use your own dollars to hire your own doctor. Now think about that for a moment. How much else do you need to know? She actually wanted to make it a crime for you to arrange for your own medical care outside of her great Hillarycare system using your own dollars. Picture this. You're sitting in a jail cell. Your cellmate is in there for bank robbery. He looks at you and says "So, what did you do?" You tell him "Oh ... I tried to hire a doctor with my own money to take care of a medical problem." That, my friends, is Hillary's America.


Like I said, a Socialist.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 08:27 am
Oh brother, I love the reaction the conservatives are having to the fine woman's mere entry into the race.

I thought I was in ecstasy when Bill Clinton won his second term over the delusions of this crowdÂ…but it is obvious I will actually not enjoy true ecstasy until the day Hillary wins.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 08:55 am
I don't believe I have ever held back my sincere dislike of Hillary Clinton. Her running for President is no surprise. She has been planning it for decades.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 10:09 am
That guy BOORTZ is not shy about saying it ~ LINK
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hamburger
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 11:20 am
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Unlike Ms. Thatcher, Hillary is a Socialist and published her positions in writing.


Shocked Laughing

did you ever meet or listen to a "real" socialist politicians ?
you can find a number of "socialist" politicians in europe ; i doubt that you'll find any in the united states .
(hint : "socialists" wear red longjohns) .
hbg
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woiyo
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 11:25 am
hamburger wrote:
Quote:
Unlike Ms. Thatcher, Hillary is a Socialist and published her positions in writing.


Shocked Laughing

did you ever meet or listen to a "real" socialist politicians ?
you can find a number of "socialist" politicians in europe ; i doubt that you'll find any in the united states .
(hint : "socialists" wear red longjohns) .
hbg


Have you read her book? Rolling Eyes
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 11:26 am
woiyo wrote:
Unlike Ms. Thatcher, Hillary is a Socialist and published her positions in writing.


Well, she's indeed thaught - in Europe - to be in one boat with her .... comservative sisters like Thatcher and Merkel. (And besides that: her political view would fit in any of our European conservative parties.)
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hamburger
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 11:41 am
Quote:
from the SPUSA Statement of Principles
The SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control -- a non-racist, classless, feminist, socialist society in which people cooperate at work, at home, and in the community...A society based on radical democracy, with power exercised through people's organizations, requires a socialist transformation from below. People's organizations cannot be created by legislation, nor can they spring into being only on the eve of a revolution...Our tactics in the struggle for radical democratic change reflect our ultimate goal of a society founded on principles of egalitarian, non-exploitative and non-violent relations among all people and between all peoples...Our aim is the creation of a new social order, a society in which the commanding value is the infinite preciousness of every woman, man and child.


(socialist party USA)

hardly hillary's style imo .
hbg
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jan, 2007 11:57 am
woiyo wrote:
Like I said, a Socialist.


Not even close.

~~~~

Fear of the middle-right is intriguing.
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