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IT'S TIME FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

 
 
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 10:56 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Well, so one conservative demolishes the other.

And we (perhaps) are now discussing the topic under constitutional law ...


[... which would be at least easy for Germany, since welfare state principles are firmly established in the Basic Law (Constitution) ...]


You are certainly correct in this Walter. If I am not mistaken the commitment to certain social welfare principles in basic law goes back almost to the founding of a united Germany. However, as a matter of historical fact this was instituted as a palliative for the popular acceptance of very authoritarian governments - after a period of near revolution and political unrest in the early and mid 19th century.

My point here is that this feature of the German government has its own historical origins, just as do the American preoccupations with free markets and individual freedom. Neither should be confused with intrinsic virtues.

However, it appears to me that you are doing just that.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:00 am
old europe wrote:
okie wrote:
Just where in the u.s. constitution is free health insurance stipulated, hamburger? If you can find it, please quote it.


If you strictly go by what's in the Constitution, the United States shouldn't have an Air Force or a National Aeronautics and Space Administration either.

<shrugs>

I guess it's all about priorities. If you don't let the Constitution get in the way of becoming a military superpower or putting a man on the moon, I don't see why it should stop you from getting your health care system up to the level of, uhm, Slovenia. Or Cuba.

Uh, oe, are you reading the same constitution? The constitution clearly places defense as something the federal government should be involved in. The same cannot be said for universal health care.

By the way, I am not busy trying to question your constitution. I think this is something we over here should be deciding what it says.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:01 am
okie, how are those bedsores?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:04 am
Where does the US Constitution guarantee education?
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:06 am
Gus, lets, see its 17,540 now. Can you refer us to just one post that said something intelligent out of those thousands of posts?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:07 am
okie wrote:
Gus, lets, see its 17,540 now. Can you refer us to just one post that said something intelligent out of those thousands of posts?


Nothing with your name attached.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:07 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Where does the US Constitution guarantee education?

Good point imposter. I've brought this up before.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:08 am
okie, I know this may not be politically correct, but I have always considered you to be a bit of a retard.

I'm sorry.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:09 am
Go play with your blocks and do not bother me again.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:09 am
I hate this waiting while simpletons attempt to formulate a response.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:10 am
If what you thought mattered to me, it would bother me, but your opinion doesn't matter, gus. In fact, I have yet to see you post an actual opinion, besides calling names.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:11 am
Ok. I will not call you names any more, you slimy, boneless gastropod.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:12 am
I am just messin' with you, okie. I actually subscribe to this site solely so I can seek out your opinions on various matters.

You are like a god to me.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:15 am
You have a weird idea of amusement, gus. I feel sorry for you but you need to get some help somewhere. Have you tried a shrink?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:17 am
You mean like downsizing myself? Shrink wrap?


Hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah.

LOOK OUT! BATS!
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:17 am
gus - you have made your point - about five times now. Are you doing this for your own pleasure, or do you imagine that others finf it entertaining?

A little of this is good - light-hearted and amusing. A lot of it is merely boring and offensive.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:18 am
I am sorry that I have bored you, george.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:18 am
You are being kind in your remarks toward gus, george.

I think gus is in need of some serious help.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:21 am
okie, I am sorry for getting out of hand and george was kind enough to point it out. I am tired and cranky and said some things that should have been left unsaid. I offer you my handshake and an apology for attacking a fellow A2ker in such a horrific fashion.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Aug, 2007 11:23 am
Sure, no problem. Have a pleasant day.
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