IT'S TIME FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

Spendius, I was agreeing with cyclops, and he complains. I can't win. And about the "puling and whining," I don't like whiners thats for sure, I haven't decided yet about "pulers," I don't know about that nor have I seen anyone "puling" yet, as far as I know, to have an opinion yet about it?

By the way, it is true that doctors have more chance to cover up their mistakes than many other professionals.

okie wrote:

Spendius, I was agreeing with cyclops, and he complains. I can't win. And about the "puling and whining," I don't like whiners thats for sure, I haven't decided yet about "pulers," I don't know about that nor have I seen anyone "puling" yet, as far as I know, to have an opinion yet about it?

By the way, it is true that doctors have more chance to cover up their mistakes than many other professionals.

You weren't agreeing, don't be a ******* moron, Okie. You were trying to insult me and my political positions.

Cycloptichorn

Now now, don't throw a tantrum, cyclops, do you have no sense of humor at all? Can't you take a little sarcasm without resorting to gutter and sewage behavior and language?

Actually, to borrow an expression from Rush, I happen to think a bit of sarcasm can illustrate absurdity with the absurd very well, and I think your opinions are often so ridiculous as to be totally absurd. Your post currently under discussion is a good example of the absurd, wherein you basically summarize the situation as I interpret it: like the job or quit it doesn't matter, we'll find any old yahoo out there to take care of the sick, after all they won't care and they are going to die anyway, Obama knows best. It really shows a basic lack of understanding or regard for the health care industry or the American people. I am sure I am not the only person out here that resents your liberal calloused attitude, cyclops, so I think you deserved the sarcasm directed at you.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:

Spendius, I was agreeing with cyclops, and he complains. I can't win. And about the "puling and whining," I don't like whiners thats for sure, I haven't decided yet about "pulers," I don't know about that nor have I seen anyone "puling" yet, as far as I know, to have an opinion yet about it?

By the way, it is true that doctors have more chance to cover up their mistakes than many other professionals.

You weren't agreeing, don't be a ******* moron, Okie. You were trying to insult me and my political positions.

Cycloptichorn

And he did it quite well. People are quitting. It's not hard to find articles talking about how physicians have started to refuse medicare/medicaid. It's not hard to find articles citing all of the students who will NOT go into primary care. Like it or not, Cyclo, you can't simply force everyone to do what you think they should for what you think they should be paid.

I completely agree. He's shown that same lack of understanding of the medical community in nearly every post made. But ya know, I suppose actual knowledge of the situation is irrelevant when you can just quote a bunch of other people with no knowledge who agree with you. It really all comes down to whoever screams the loudest.

So, let them. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything at all. Let them quit.

I won't be held hostage to bluffs, so if they think it's better to quit then to take pay cuts - do it. We will deal with that situation when it arises.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

So, let them. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything at all. Let them quit.

I won't be held hostage to bluffs, so if they think it's better to quit then to take pay cuts - do it. We will deal with that situation when it arises.

Cycloptichorn

Isn't that how we got in this mess? Not actually thinking anything through? Everyone just wants and wants NOW without any thought of the impacts. Unfortunately, by the time the situation arises, it will be a disaster and recovery could take years.

This is no different then your assertion of authority on this matter, when the truth is you are no more informed then anyone else - and I don't give a **** how many 'doctor friends' you have.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

This is no different then your assertion of authority on this matter, when the truth is you are no more informed then anyone else - and I don't give a **** how many 'doctor friends' you have.

Cycloptichorn

Of course you don't care. You can't validate all of your idiotic ideas if you concede the point that you don't actually have any functional knowledge of the system you're critiquing. And you surely don't want to accept that other people with contrary opinions do have that knowledge.

If you don't give a **** about my "doctor friends" (to say nothing about my personal experience), you should try reading the stuff written by the actual physicians. KevinMD.com or google TheHappyHospitalist blog. I'm sure you won't - again because their opinions as actual physicians run contrary to you completely baseless opinions.

I did read both those blogs, and - especially on the second one - I believe that these people are starting from a political viewpoint and searching for evidence to support it.

I also believe, as Rabel posted above, that anyone will fight and come up with arguments to prevent their pay from being cut, no matter the validity of doing so or not.

Cycloptichorn