IT'S TIME FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Sometimes, I get the idea that politics in some countries are now and then just another kind of a professional wrestling show.

But now, it seems, some changed it to look like a show at the antique Colosseum. Only with the complete world as spectators.

Something like the French tradition of burning cars?

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@georgeob1,

Yes. If the car-burning were to be backed by an important opposition party, organised and fuelled by political action committees and repeating the arguments of lobbyists for multi-billion dollar corporations.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Sometimes, I get the idea that politics in some countries are now and then just another kind of a professional wrestling show.

But now, it seems, some changed it to look like a show at the antique Colosseum. Only with the complete world as spectators.

Something like the French tradition of burning cars?

I haven't noticed that radio hosts were doing such or members of the French senate or assemble nationale attended.

Could you give your source for that, please?

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@old europe,

old europe wrote:

Yes. If the car-burning were to be backed by an important opposition party, organised and fuelled by political action committees and repeating the arguments of lobbyists for multi-billion dollar corporations.

Are you asserting that none of those factors (or their equivalents) weren't present in any of the political disorders in France ? Really ???

Apparently European smugness & hypocrisy are alive and well.

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@georgeob1,

Hypocrisy and smugness is also alive and well in the US.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

Are you asserting that none of those factors (or their equivalents) weren't present in any of the political disorders in France ? Really ???

Apparently European smugness & hypocrisy are alive and well.

As far as I know - but my French isn't that good and I'm not really an expert in French domestic affairs - even the police and the governing conservatives aren't suggesting such.

But what do you mean with "European smugness & hypocrisy" here?

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Hypocrisy and smugness is also alive and well in the US.

Oh, I certainly agree with that.

The denial and excuses of the Democrat Congressional leaders, confronted as they are with a growing surge of public resentment over their mismanagement of our health care and economic policy development, provide us with excellent examples.

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@georgeob1,

Precisely! The democratic controlled congress is spending too much to increase our deficit at a time when they should be more conservative in what they do. This huge deficit will eventually bite us in the rear with higher prices and less growth in our economy.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Precisely! The democratic controlled congress is spending too much to increase our deficit at a time when they should be more conservative in what they do. This huge deficit will eventually bite us in the rear with higher prices and less growth in our economy.

So in other words, they are acting like the repubs you so castigated and attacked for doing the same thing?

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

old europe wrote:

Yes. If the car-burning were to be backed by an important opposition party, organised and fuelled by political action committees and repeating the arguments of lobbyists for multi-billion dollar corporations.

Are you asserting that none of those factors (or their equivalents) weren't present in any of the political disorders in France ? Really ???

Apparently European smugness & hypocrisy are alive and well.

Can you name the French political party or lobbying group which instructed people to engage in this disobedience? The French corporations who paid to push people to riot? I doubt it.

Hardly a similar situation...

Cycloptichorn

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They look like The Beach Boys to me. Revolutionaries wear their hair long and don't wash so often.

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@spendius,

How would you know that, spendi? You live the same lifestyle? LOL

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

What then would you say about the anti government demonstrations done by protesters on the left during Republican administrations? Were they also attempting to destroy our democracy?

if you mean were they talking about secession like some of the tea people and a texas governor who shall remain nameless, no. no they weren't.

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@DontTreadOnMe,

The real question georgeob needs to ask is did the liberals intimidate the conservatives when they held town meetings or any other political gathering?

What I recall is how Palin got the crowd all riled up about Obama and minorities. Even at a McCain political rally, a woman said Obama was an Arab. McCain was good enough to clear that up, but that's the kind of crowd Palin and McCain used to get during their campaign. I never saw any liberals making threats against them in any shape or form.

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Industry-Backed Anti-Health Care Reform Group: Yeah, We're Packing And Disrupting The Health Care Town Halls
By Brian Beutler - August 4, 2009, 12:59PM
Yesterday, I reported that the anti-health care reform group Conservatives for Patients Rights was enlisting tea party protesters to attend and disrupt health care town halls hosted by members of Congress in their regions.

Today, CPR--which is headed by disgraced hospital executive Rick Scott, and has enlisted the message men behind the Swift Boat campaign--has acknowledged their behind-the-scenes role in the outbursts.

Spokesman Brian Burgess tells Greg Sargent that CPR is distributing "town hall alert" flyers to people on its mailing lists and is reaching out to third party groups via online list serv.

Perhaps the most significant of these discussion groups is the called Tea Party Patriots, which is managed by Tom Gaitens, a field organizer for the industry-funded lobbying organization FreedomWorks. Members of this list serve were not only supplied with list of town hall forums, but with a strategy document outlining the same disruptive techniques we're seeing play out at health care public forums around the country.

The disclosure makes official what much of the reporting about the disruptions seemed to indicate: that industry funded groups--who stand to benefit if health reform legislation fails--are playing a significant role in organizing, and perhaps ginning up, the outbursts we're seeing at health care public forums around the country.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Insurance+companies+packing+Congressmen%27s+town+meetings&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7DKUS_en

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Aug
04
2009
No Town Hall Meetings for Spratt
Published by Bane Windlow at 6:33 pm under Election 2010, Federal, John Spratt, Nanny State Alert, Republicans, South Carolina, US House, Upstate

That’s the word according to an email forwarded to me. Why is it that our “representative” up here in the upstate doesn’t feel the need to speak with and hear the opinions of his constituents? I know why. He knows this health care plan is going to go over like a ton of bricks and he’s going to get his ass reamed like many of his colleagues have been across the country. Let’s be real here. Jack Spratt doesn’t represent this district anymore; he represents the loony leaders of his party, people like Nancy Pelosi. He has apparently succumbed to the false reality that so many career politicians do when they’ve been in office for too long. He thinks he’s invincible at the ballot box and there was a time that may have been true, but not anymore.

Spratt has had one real scare and that was in 1994 when he barely won reelection with 52% of the vote. That was the year Republicans were sweeping the Democrats all across the country. Since then he has cruised fairly easy to reelection, but the Fifth Congressional District has changed. In 2006, Republican Ralph Norman held him to just 57% of the vote in a year that Democrats swept the country and having been outspent by Spratt nearly two to one. According to the Cook Political Index, the Fifth District is now ranked R +7 meaning Republican presidential candidates have received seven points over the national average in the past few elections. That’s pretty significant. Spratt is on borrowed time and should he make it all the way to retirement the Fifth is a definite GOP pick up.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/06/liberal-groups-launch-town-hall-counteroffensive/

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@marsz,

marsz, I'm seeing real comedy here. Many of you are against universal health care for all the wrong reasons, and what you wish for will end up biting everybody in the butt. Insurance premiums are going up faster than wages and the inflation rate; it's only a matter of time when more company sponsored health insurance will be "something of the past" and those who pay for insurance themselves (many are inadequate) will be in the very small minority. It's already costing $12,000/year for a family, and not many families can pay much more to retain their insurance.

You won't get government run insurance; but you'll get very high priced private insurance, and they will still restrict people with preexisting conditions and what kind of health care they are willing to pay for.

Many of you will end up bankrupt if anybody in your family has a serious health issue.

You won!

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@cicerone imposter,

Cicerone, you are assuming the enormous deficits this sweeping expansion of government-run entitlement programs will inevitably generate will itself have no economic effect on everyone. I believe you know this to be contrary to the facts.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

Cicerone, you are assuming the enormous deficits this sweeping expansion of government-run entitlement programs will inevitably generate will itself have no economic effect on everyone. I believe you know this to be contrary to the facts.

We can always raise taxes somewhat to help combat the deficit.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

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We can always raise taxes somewhat to help combat the deficit.

Cycloptichorn

OR, lets try this for a change.

CUT SPENDING!!!!!!!!!!

Dont spend what you dont have.

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