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IT'S TIME FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 07:14 am
I think that how s.o. is paid is a slightly different topic.
But since it is mentioned: I don't think that besides executive staff (non-pay scale employees) every employee/worker in Europe receive overtime pay, either paid on her/his banc account or as overtime compensation through time off.

(Night/weekend/holiday/shift work for hopsital [etc] employess is regulated in the resp. tariffs.)
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 08:08 am
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee307/edgarblythe/boil070927schip.jpg
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 08:59 am
Thanks Edgar. Loved it!
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xingu
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 07:18 pm
U.S. maternal death rate higher than Europe's: report
Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:03pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has a sharply higher rate of women dying during or just after pregnancy than European countries, even some relatively poor countries such as Macedonia and Bosnia, according to the first estimates in five years on maternal deaths worldwide.

The report released by various United Nations agencies and the World Bank on Friday shows that Ireland has the lowest rate of deaths, while several African countries have the worst.

The United States has a far higher death rate than the European average, the report shows, with one in 4,800 U.S. women dying from complications of pregnancy or childbirth, the same as Belarus and just slightly better than Serbia's rate of one in 4,500.

Just one out of 47,600 women in Ireland die during or just after childbirth, the report found. Bosnia had the second-lowest rate, with 1 in 29,000 women dying during pregnancy and childbirth.

"Among the ten top-ranked European and other industrialized countries, where women are guaranteed good-quality health and family planning services that minimize their lifetime risk, fewer than one in 16,400 will die from complications of pregnancy and childbirth," the United Nations, which issued the report along with the World Bank, said in a statement.

"At the other end of the scale are ten countries where high fertility and shattered health care systems raise women's lifetime risk so that more than one in every 15 women will die of pregnancy-related causes," it said.

The report, published in the Lancet medical journal, places the United States 41st among 171 countries.

The four lowest-ranked countries in the report are Chad, with 1 in 11 women dying in pregnancy or childbirth, Afghanistan and Sierra Leone with one in eight, and Niger losing one in seven mothers.

"Americans tend to be complacent about pregnancy and childbirth. Most believe it is now more or less routine and no longer the deadly risk it was for their grandmothers. This is true for most U.S. women, but by no means for all," the U.N.-led group said in a statement.

The group includes U.N. agencies such as the World Health Organization and UNICEF, the World Bank and Family Care International.

According to the U.S. National center for Health Statistics, about 6 million U.S. women get pregnant every year. Four million children are born, about 1 million pregnancies end in miscarriages and another 1 million in induced abortion.

The major direct causes of U.S. pregnancy-related deaths are blood clots, hemorrhage, complications of medical conditions, and eclampsia and pre-eclampsia, which are marked by dangerously high blood pressure.

The death rate among U.S. black women was nearly four times the rate found among non-Hispanic white women -- 34.7 deaths per 100,000 live births for blacks versus 9.3 per 100,000 live births for whites, the report said.

© Reuters 2006.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1339620220071013?sp=true
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 12:02 pm
Universal health care - the idea is winning!

Quote:
Under fierce attack by Democrats over the children's health insurance plan, House Minority Leader John A. Boehner said Sunday Republicans will unveil their own health care plan over the next few months.

"Republicans are working on a plan that will provide access to all Americans to high quality health insurance, make sure that we increase the quality of insurance that we have in American, and we want to foster a sprit of innovation," said Boehner on "Fox News Sunday." "This is a plan we'll see over the next coming months where we put the patients in charge of their health care."


http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13241.html

The situation: Polling is so strongly in favor of some sort of health care reform, that Congressional Republicans have figured out that they are going to get murdered on this issue for the next 12 months. They know that letting the Dems capture the middle class on this issue is going to lose them plenty of seats.

So they really have no choice but to offer a comprehensive package of their own. Not that I think it will be a good one (probably will revolve around tax credits) but, hey; the debate has shifted!

All you health-care troglodytes out there are going to be in for a tough year...

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 12:33 pm
Advocate wrote:
Thanks Edgar. Loved it!


You do love demagoguery, don't you, Advocate. I already knew that, and Edgar's cartoon is a great example of it.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 12:40 pm
I must say Okie your vocabulary is improving, I can only assume this is the result of reading a2k.
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USAFHokie80
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 12:48 pm
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
However, these hourly people must be paid overtime for anything above 40 hrs.


Most full time professional hospital employees receive overtime pay , otherwise who'd work the holidays?


Hourly employees, yes. What's your point? I don't get paid for holidays either.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 01:11 pm
Demagoguery! Hmm, that's a big word for Okie. I guess that cartoons disliked by Okie are demagogic. Sad!
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USAFHokie80
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 01:51 pm
USAFHokie80 wrote:
Miller wrote:
USAFHokie80 wrote:
However, these hourly people must be paid overtime for anything above 40 hrs.


Most full time professional hospital employees receive overtime pay , otherwise who'd work the holidays?


Hourly employees, yes. What's your point? I don't get paid for holidays either.


I'd like to say, before someone tries to throw it in my face, that obviously the idea that hourly employees don't get paid sick days doesn't hold for everyone. Though it is typical that lower-wage, unskilled hourly workers do not enjoy this benefit.
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High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:04 pm
Advocate wrote:
Demagoguery! Hmm, that's a big word for Okie. I guess that cartoons disliked by Okie are demagogic. Sad!


Wonderful to see all those ancient Greek experts criticize Okie - who never claimed to be a literary scholar to begin with!

The word is demagogy.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:07 pm
Intellegis me esse expertum graecum?
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High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:08 pm
Sure, Walter! Thought you knew that Smile
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:09 pm
High Seas wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Demagoguery! Hmm, that's a big word for Okie. I guess that cartoons disliked by Okie are demagogic. Sad!


Wonderful to see all those ancient Greek experts criticize Okie - who never claimed to be a literary scholar to begin with!


Neither did Advocate.


High Seas wrote:
The word is demagogy.



Merriam-Webster wrote:
dem·a·gogu·erydem·a·gogy \-ˌgä-gē, -ˌgä-jē, -ˌgō-jē\ noun
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:12 pm
Bugger me sideways. A2K messed up the phonetic spelling...

Anyways...

Demagoguery
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High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:12 pm
Old Europe - lex, legis is your trade, stick to it.....you clearly consulted the wrong indices on your Greek Smile
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 12:18 pm
High Seas wrote:
Old Europe - lex, legis is your trade, stick to it.....you clearly consulted the wrong indices on your Greek Smile


Aw, shucks.

I thought we were talking about correct English words.


Coulda fooled me.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 02:15 pm
High Seas wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Demagoguery! Hmm, that's a big word for Okie. I guess that cartoons disliked by Okie are demagogic. Sad!


Wonderful to see all those ancient Greek experts criticize Okie - who never claimed to be a literary scholar to begin with!

The word is demagogy.



There is nothing like being corrected by someone who can't write. "Demagogic" is correct -- it is an adjective.
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xingu
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 05:42 pm
FYI

dem·a·gog·ic

also dem·a·gog·i·cal adj.

Of, relating to, or characteristic of a demagogue.

demagogically dem'a·gog'i·cal·ly adv.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 17 Oct, 2007 06:43 pm
High Seas, see what you started with your stupidity.
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