No trick.... My point is that your rhetoric is very similar to the rhetoric used by Conservatives in any country... including the conservatives in the Middle East. Let's imagine what you would be saying if you happened to have been born in the Middle East--- a kind of Islamic Baldimo.
For fairness... I would invite you to imagine what an Islamic ebrown_p would say. What do you think an pro-diplomacy Taliban member who opposed violence (especially torture), wanted more civil rights for minority religion and wanted to lessen the impact of religion in government would be like.
But, for your convenience I underlined all the words that differentiate your position from that of this hypothetical Islamic conservative.
The Islamic version of Baldimo would have wrote:
1) They are against the Separation of Church and State. They promote prayer in schools and religious monuments in public spaces.
We are against the freedom from religion. Liberals want to remove religion from all forms of public lives and have you only practice religion in the dark corner of your basement. The only religion they have respect is the one that isn't Islam
2) The are against the rights of Minority religions. They oppose any laws that protect minority religions.
We are against any laws that protect certain groups and not cover others. We are all Arabs but the libs want to seprate everyone into groups so they can create victims and have a voting block.
3) They are in favor of the strong military force and have a win at all costs attitude. They don't care about what the international community thinks and they reject the authority of the UN.
Why fight if you don't plan on winning? Do pro sports teams go on the field to win or lose? We partialy reject the authority of the UN because they have no authority. They don't solve any issues and have proven themselves to be corrupt from the top down, Blood for Oil. When the leader of the UN's son is getting kick backs and bribs and nothing happens to him, then that is corrpution. When was the last time the UN did anything to prove their worth? You mention the international community but what have they done to help the world? They allow dictators to and tolatarian regims to hold positions of power in the UN. What does that say about a United Nations?
4) They believe that they are winning the war. They reject any calls to leave Iraq before they reach their goals. They reject any call for diplomacy.
We reject working with other imperialist nations that we know are incourging the violence. Working with Iran to solve Iraq? Does that make sense to you? From my stand point I don't want the Islamic Nations to leave until we are done because I don't want my oldest child to have to fight these lunitics who don't care if they die. He will have his own wars to fight and I would rather he fight an enemy who is as afraid to die as he is. If we pull out we will be back and I don't want that. You mention diplomacy but who do we speak with? Any head of a imperialist group isn't going to show up in fear that we will kill him. He should be scared because we would. Are you suggesting we sit down and make a deal with imperialist?
5) They believe that their mistrust and hatred of the enemy justifies the use of tactics that are condemned by the international community. This includes the use of torture and the denial of civil rights among their own people.
Torture is different to different people. I don't see stress positions or embarassing them as torture. I do see elecution and beatings as torture. When those soldiers in Iraq got busted for "torture" I didn't see it that way. There have been reports of the Koran being stepped on and defiled which were all proven to be false. Do you want the Islamic World to love its enemies people who would kill you without a thought? These are the people we are fighting. Remember Abu Graib and how that went down. We try and get along with them and only more people will die.
The Conservatives in the US want the same things that the Taliban wants in the Middle East.
... I think that our nation was founded on Islamic values and to ignore that fact is to ignore our roots and values.
