Homosexual Experimentation.

And it's much more difficult to get rid of than crabs are!

I knew there was a Republican explanation. (An explanation for Republicans...)


<and it does seem to be closely linked to public restrooms...>

Yuppers,..just look at what happened to poor George Michael,..he was straight, til he went into that public bathroom!!

I know. Damn. Lost another one.
And, he's so hot.

Father Figure. One of my favorite songs. So sexy.

I think we would have let you keep him.
Ever see that "Wake Me Up, Before You Go-GO" video??
There's such a thing as TOO gay,..we need to draw a line somewhere!!

to answer the original question - ( I am a heterosexual)


I believe that women may know our own bodies better than any of our male partners could ( tho not for lack of trying)

I have never experimented - although recently I have been thinking about it. One of my friends is the first woman I have had dreams ( and daydreams) about.

My current issue is not "Should I or shouldn't I" but "Would that be cheating on my husband?" "Would she be cheating on her boyfriend?"

A gay homosexual? Is that different than a regular homosexual? Is George Michael in the "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" video being a gay homosexual?

Sofia, I hope I didn't give the wrong impression -- it was just a kiss. As kisses go, it was almost exactly like a kiss with this guy who was really, really nice, and really really good-looking, but I just wasn't attracted to him. Technically, everything was fine, but that je ne sais quoi was missing. I don't like technicalities when it comes to romance -- I have basically no memory of the technicalities of kissing E.G. for the first time, it was just.... hmmm, can't seem to describe without getting dangerously pornographic. Suffice it to say, I wasn't thinking, "Interesting technique."

As JerryR is all the way to one end of the spectrum, I think I'm pretty far to the other, all the more so for being open to the idea and still having it do nothing for me. (Had other opportunities, always tried to remain open-minded, always came down to no actual attraction.) A gay friend of mine said I'm just a gay guy in a woman's body.

Delicate conundrum, paleo. Neat that you share!
If my questions are intrusive--just ignore me.
Are you twenties, thirties? And, never had similar thoughts? (You are blowing Jerry's theory out of the water! HA!)

Did she mention it to you? Have you talked about it with her?

This very phenomena is exactly what I was referring to earlier. Having thoughts like this at your time in life.

Would you say your marriage has been sexually satisfying so far? Thanks in advance for whatever you choose to share, or if you choose not to.

sozobe-- Yeah, I assumed you had politely implied it was a short-term relationship. Thanks for clarification. A gay man trapped in a woman's body. A first with that description!

Wake me up before you go-go----- Gay video.

Monger had a topic with an article about "straight" women being more frequently aroused by other women than "straight" men being aroused by other men, with some musing that it might be an evolutionary survival mechanism. I tried to post to that topic and got a "moved" or "Private" or something message, he may have removed it. Monger, if you read this, can you re-post just the link?

I say "straight" in quotes because really I think this stuff is so much less concrete than usually presented -- I have met many many men I'm not attracted to, maybe I just never met a specific woman that I was attracted to. I'm now out of the market, so it's moot.

Which brings me to paleobarbie's question -- if you engage in sexual activity with another person without your husband's knowledge and/ or previous explicit consent for you to engage in said activity, it's cheating. The gender of the person you are engaging in sexual activity with does not matter a whit.

If he has told you to do whatever you'd like with whomever you'd like, or wants to join in, that's different.

Your right, soz, about 'straightness' being less than concrete. My daughter and I were talking a couple of days ago about traditional male and female traits--low voice, hirsuitism, aggressive characteristics. Hormonal influences... These traits are so jumbled within bodies, and everything seems determined by your whosits or whatsis.

I have lot of non-traditional traits, but look feminine, feel feminine and have only been attracted to men. But, I wonder if thats largely to do with upbringing, socialization...

Survival mechanism? Or a question of which is more or less accepted? To overall be a "straight" woman but occassionally also fall for other women seems to have gotten to be, like, prerequisite #1 to being hip, or something. Forget "taboo" - this is something you'd flaunt! Whereas the other way around ...

I agree about putting "straight" in quotes ... Somehow this bipolar, either you're straight or you're gay-thing seems unnatural to me, though I can see why both straights and gays have a big stake in keeping kind of clarity in place: it's the "born this way" certainty that keeps gays from having to defend their "choice" and keeps straights from, well, worrying about being gay ;-).

I always held by this theory that everybody is in principle bisexual, myself - just that we're all on different places on the overall scale from one end to the other. With that theory in mind, I've also always been kinda prepared for the off-chance that I might fall in love with a guy some time as well.

I must add, though, that, in something of a refutation of the theory, I never did meet any ... just women, all down the line.

I guess for the middlin' folk that nimh talks about--those without strong identifications on either side--it depends on what your eyes are open to.

I was never attracted to black or Asian men, either--yet, they are mins. I was 'socialized' or whatever, to white men. (I GUESS?!) Later in life, I 'saw' black men, and pronounced "They are good." Still not sexually attracted to Asian men.

Didn't brunch at the black man buffet, however. I discovered them after I was married. Wonder if I would now? Ah, well.

I could only find the bleeped version of this, as heard on Howard Stern, but it's pretty funny:

Joe Rogan-Gay Wieghtlifters
http://www.sedgeman.com/humor/Joe%20Rogan%20-%20Gay%20Weightlifters.mp3

Ah ha. Definitely not gay or nuttin'.

I recall when as an adolescent, one of the boys in my class excitedly described to me how his cousin had introduced him to homosexual intercourse. This boy was seriously warped by a hateful, religiously-fanatical mother--and i relaized immediately that he had been so effectively sheltered by his mother that he had no knowledge of homosexuality as a concept, nor sexual relations for that matter. I was left thinking to myself: "Gary, you're are just too weird." (Before the PC Gestapo jump me, i thought he was weird because he was so naive, not because he had been lured into homosexual activity--i was personally ambivalent to the concept then, and neither interested in it nor in condemning it--i told him "That's nice." and went about my personal business.)

Since then, whenever anyone has seriously tried to get me involved in a homosexual encounter, i've thought of Gary, and begun laughing--which is not conducive to sex of either homosexual or heterosexual variety.

laughing not conducive to sex?

thud!

Laughing is great when you know someone and have a relationship, Lil Coney, it does not, however, usually encourage someone who is hitting on you.

Hmmmmmmmm....unless they are trying to be funny, perhaps?

nimh, 'zactly. I thought of that too (think I'll PM Monger to ask for that article.) More specifically, I think there is much more fear for men than for women. Being lesbian or engaging in lesbian activity is seen as being one more way to attract guys in many ways. Kiss your female friend at the club and then smile at the guy you have your eye on. It's all good.

If a man did that, he would have a justified fear of being beaten.