... So help me, Allah.

You haven't been paying attention, have you, Baldimo? Read Cyclo's post just a few posts ago--Prager is a liar, and he made up the entire story.

As for a religious text, the Constitution reads:

. . . but no religious Test shall ever be required . . . (emphasis added)

Your reading skill seem to be a little off there, Baldimo . . .

It's OK, Boss.

Earlier, i made a post about the Corporation Act, the Test Act and the Occasional Conformity Act. Those were laws in England which intended to make certain that no one but members of the Church of England could be a part of the government (including the army and navy). It is quite reasonable to assume that the framers of the Constitution had those laws in mind when they prohibited a religious test for public office.

Setanta wrote:

It's OK, Boss.

Earlier, i made a post about the Corporation Act, the Test Act and the Occasional Conformity Act. Those were laws in England which intended to make certain that no one but members of the Church of England could be a part of the government (including the army and navy). It is quite reasonable to assume that the framers of the Constitution had those laws in mind when they prohibited a religious test for public office.

yes! and that's where i keep winding up when i consider the claims that the usa was intended to be a christian country. although there's a lot of evidenciary writings to the contrary from those who did the founding.

it seems to me that the whole point was to get away from all of the religio-monarchism and back and forth civil/full scale wars that kept wrecking the continent.

the founders seem to have been deep thinkers more than idealogs in terms of spiritual beliefs. they rarely mention jesus in their personal writings that i've seen. usually supernatural references are along the line of "the creator", "the heavenly father" etc. being christian isn't a prereq for belief in the creator. either is being an adherent of any religious doctorine.

so...the idea of a new kind of country that avoided religious entanglement with governence must have been quite thrilling to them at the time.

looking pretty good about now, too.




:wink:

I think they were more refering to the different flavors of Christianity then to other religions. Oh course modern interpatation leaves us to beleive they were talking about different religions.

I hate tests.

Setanta wrote:

So, basically, this clown Prager is an out-and-out liar . . . hilarious . . . thanks, Cyclo . . . i'm gonna post that in the other thread on this topic.

it's really all the ultra right has ever had, set. create some "troubling" scenario and pound away on the Outrage Button. to a lesser extent the far left does the same thing, i think. the left tends more to at least have some kernel of actuality and may massage the hell out of it, whereas the prager/o'reilly/hannity/limberger crowd always get caught just making **** up.

boneheads, i tell ya... oh, well birds of a feather....

Quote:

G.W.Bush - "I don't think nation-building missions are worthwhile."
Source: Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University Oct 11, 2000

I do believe that he meant this. Once he came into office, however, his handlers had other ideas for him to pursue.

Allah time joking. Why allah time make the jokes.

edgarblythe wrote:

Allah time joking. Why allah time make the jokes.

You're right you know!


That's why the world is in such a damn mess.


These bloody god things are too busy making jokes and not attending to their core business.

Allah shouldn't HAVE time for jokes!

For the record, she "ain't no allah back girl".