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Is the Bush administration "conservative"?

 
 
blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2003 09:50 am
tartarin I feel certain we can count you among the group you mention. Smile
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wolf
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jun, 2003 02:37 am
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it is now time to say and act upon the fact that the United States, as a state, is Fascist.


Global Research
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jun, 2003 09:18 am
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The time has come to say it out loud. Most of my academic colleagues say it privately, but hedge in their classes. Many of my old buddies at Time and Newsweek, where I was an editor for a decade, agree, but tell me they can never say so in print. All my friends fear that if they spell it out the FBI will arrest them in the middle of the night and they will become "disappeared" like hundreds of innocent Moslems who are not even charged with a crime. They know that Attorney General Ashcroft is itching to use the proposed Patriots' Act II, which will certainly become law after US forces suffer casualties in Iraq, to deport native-born critics of the Administration to Antarctica or bury them in solitary confinement in the Arizona desert, as that law permits. But it is now time to say and act upon the fact that the United States, as a state, is Fascist.


Is this guy a terrorist? Unless he poses a real threat to the US he should not need to worry about being spirited away. After reading this article, I don't think he is a threat to America, his family maybe, but not America. We have the freedom to write what we want and criticize anyone we want. I think maybe he exagerrating his point to pull at peoples sense of outrage.

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We all know, and the media certainly can list the proofs, that those in power in Washington, Vice President Cheney, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, and his deputy Wolfowitz, among others, plotted the current anti-Iraq policy years ago. In 1992 they actually wrote it up in a letter to Bush I. Even Ted Koppel read parts of that 96-page letter on Nightline the other day, proving that Bush II's War has nothing to do with 9/11 or al Qaeda or terrorism. In fact, President Reagan removed Iraq from the list of states sponsoring terror back in l982.


I bet there are also plans to invade Cuba, Russia, N. Korea, and many other countries. In fact, I bet the Pentagon has an entire team of people who do nothing else but to plan various scenarios to protect American Interests. I would like to extend a thank you to that team.

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To those 1992 conspirators now making policy in the White House, adding up with Bush II as the world's new and dreaded Gang of Four, the goal was and is control of the whole region. Not just to own the oil and gas, but also to control their sale, in order to dictate which developing country the US will help and which it will sink into desperate poverty. After Iraq, they want to invade Iran. Then any other country, especially the oil-rich "...stans" surrounding the Caspian Sea if they balk at US demands and where the US now has bases.


Wow, this guy should get on the psychic hotline! He makes such wild conjecture that I don't even see a need to point out he is wrong. Iran will not be invaded and no other country is in any way in danger of "American Liberation" as they are no threat to American interests. Iraq will eventually have it's own administration and will remain in control of its own oil resources. It's a pity the author can't see past his nose while he makes these wild accusations.

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No nation (certainly not Cuba) must be allowed to maintain an independent course, say the Gang of Four. The world's worst dictators (in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kuwait, Turkey, Kazakhstan et al) are acceptable if they trade by Washington's rules. If not, a "regime change" is the next move. Bush II's War on Iraq is only the beginning. It's part of what in polite circles is called Globalization. In real terms it's just plain Americanization.


More nothing. He's talking out his ass again.

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Most Americans support Bush II and his Gang of Four. So did the Germans support Hitler. He won over 60 percent of the vote in a fair election. He repeated ad nausea that it was the others' fault and the Germans believed him. It was the Czechs who stole the Sudetenland, he said. Repeat it often, Goebels advised him, and the world will believe it. And now, he would advise Bush II, say over and over that Saddam gassed his own people in the village of Halapja and the world will believe it, even if the CIA's senior political analyst on Iraq at the time, who had access to the classified investigation of the incident, reported that it did not happen (NYT 10/31/03). The media said it did, without proof, almost every day since Bush said it during his State of the Union address. And again in his March 15 radio talk. Goebels would have been proud.


Ah, the first comparison of Bush to Hitler. Lies. This whole paragraph is written to enrage people on both sides so they read it and talk about,that's all.

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Both the CIA and the FBI found no connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq. Bush II said there was one. He offered no proof. So what. He repeated it so often most Americans believe it. That's like when daddy Bush said that Saddam was going to attack Saudi Arabia after Kuwait. Totally absurd, and everyone in the media knew it. Saddam may be a scumbag but he isn't mad. But the media repeated it so often most Americans, who don't even know where Saudi Arabia is, believed it.


Ummmmm...Saddam DID start to attack Saudi Arabia at the end of the Kuwait crisis. He also fired quite a few missiles into S.A. Read "Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein´s Unfinished War against America" by Laurie Mylroie.

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To go against the Gang of Four is to be ostracized from Washington. The end of a Journalism Career. Notice Bush II's last press conference. Only those reporters on his "goodie" list could ask him questions. Those who usually pose tough questions were silenced. CBS's veteran reporter-anchorman Dan Rather admitted in a BBC interview on his way back from Iraq that even he was intimidated by the Gang of Four: "It's that fear that keeps journalists from asking the toughest of the tough questions."


More bullshit.

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Who is really threatened by Saddam? Israel? Saddam knows very well that if he attacks it Iraq will be permanently exterminated. The American people? How absolutely ludicrous: his longest range missiles, which according to the UN inspectors violated the 93 miles maximum by all of 30 miles, couldn't even reach the immense and oppressive US base on the Island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. So why do Americans support a bloodthirsty liar whose bombs kill children? Americans don't even know that the UN does not sanction the US/British bombing of Iraq's self-defense guns.


The entire world is threatened, as long as Saddam is known to have WMD's that are not accounted for. The last sentance and the next paragraph are my favorites! They have nothing to do with the article, they are lies, and they are used only to further enrage the reader...

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The sanctions that the US did force the UN to adopt have already killed more than half a million Iraqi children, as reported by the UN and Bill Moyers on Public Television. But we know from the My Lai massacre that American soldiers are trained to view children of enemies, even tiny babies, equally as enemies, and kill them (raping the young girls first, of course).


*ahem* lies. If any deaths occured in Iraq, blame Saddam. Those palaces he rebuilt instead of feeding his people are the cause. The sanctions didn't kill them. Saddam did. The author seems to not take that into account.

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What has happened to the US when murderers and liars run our affairs and neither Congress nor ordinary Americans seem to care? Such Fascists as Elliot Abrams, guilty of lying to Congress and pardoned by Bush I (NYT 12,/07/02), member of the Israel lobby, now in charge of Palestine affairs at National Security; John Negroponte, who as US ambassador to Honduras during the Contra wars, helped Generals Alvarez, chief of Honduras' Armed Forces, and Luis Alonso Discua Elvir, head of Battalion 3-16, create the death squads responsible for the torture and murder or hundreds of men and women, including nuns opposed to the war, now US ambassador to the UN (LATimes 03/25/01; Sister Laetiti Bordes, s.h., 08/24/01); John Poindexter, former vice admiral convicted of five felonies of lying to Congress and obstruction of justice pardoned by Bush I, now in charge of the Pentagon's electronic surveillance system which plans to spy on all Americans' banking, credit card, and travel t! ransactions without a search warrant (NYT 11/10/02): Otto J. Reich, a Cuba-born anti-Castro fanatic whose office engaged in prohibited acts of propaganda (New Yorker, Oct. 14 & 21, 2002) and appears to want to execute anyone saying one word in favor of the Cuban revolution, now boss of all Latin American US diplomats; Gerald A Reynolds, a longtime foe of Affirmative Action, in charge of Bush II's Office of Civil Rights (NYT 06/27/01); Harvey L. Pitt, a corporate lawyer who has represented the industries opposed to regulations by the SEC, to head the SEC; and on and on, plus all the disgustingly anti-poor, pro-big business lawyers being nominated by Bush II to judgeships around the country.


*sigh* Tomato tomato...oh, and more lies...getting bored now...

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But by far the most dangerous fascist in Bush II's government is the man in charge of "justice", Attorney General John Ashcroft. A racist, fanatic fundamentalist, opposed to the civil and bodily (abortion) liberties upheld by the Constitution or the Supreme Court. Ashcroft is in favor of secret arrests, secret detentions, secret trials without appeals, secret verdicts and secret executions, all "odious to a democratic society" as Judge Arthur N. D'Italia of New Jersey's Superior Court said, when he ruled that secret detentions were illegal. Ashcroft not only appealed but ordered state and local governments to stop making public the names of those arrested (NYT 05/05/02).


Lies and conjecture. If they were secret, why do people know about them?

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Like in Nazi Germany of yesterday, an innocent citizen who may or may not have mumbled some criticism of Ashcroft himself will suddenly disappear when out walking his dog, and his family will be allowed to go crazy trying to find out what happened.

Will the innocent citizen then be tortured? Don't laugh: the US already uses torture. Now that the evidence is firm, the debate rages. Should we or should we not? And who decides? But in fact, the CIA has been torturing anti-US suspects for years, in Asia, Africa and especially Latin America. When I accompanied former Attorney General Ramsey Clark to Teheran in l980, I saw a video's of CIA men, or Special Forces soldiers, sometimes in US uniform, showing SAVAK officers how to torture.


More lies and conjecture...does this guy do anything else?

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I remember very vividly one horrifying case: a naked anti-Shah Iranian hanging six inches off the floor by a chain around his wrists, which were bleeding, in the middle of what appeared to be a cement bunker. Two Iranians in civilian clothes were having difficulty forcing a cattle prod, which was wired to an electric generator, into the man's rectum, because his body kept swinging to and fro. An officer, obviously an American, in uniform but sporting no insignia, pushed the Iranians to the side, grabbed the prod with his right hand, held the prisoner with his left, and rammed the prod as far as he could, turning the Iranian toward the camera, and smiled as if to say "see! it's easy." Then, one of the officers of the SAVAK, which was created, financed and trained for the Shah by the CIA and Israel's secret service, the Mossad, turned on the juice, and while the three men jokingly talked to the cameraman in this silent video, the hapless prisoner kept shaking wildly behind.! When the three turned back to him, he was dead.


Proof? Oh, wait, this guy doesn't use proof, just more lies and conjecture...

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Not quite what the Washington Post reported on the front page of its December 26, 2002, issue, but what it did report about systematic torture at CIA and Special Forces centers was bad enough. Since then, the NYTimes has been publishing other torture incidents, including the death of two old farmers tortured for having been forced to fight for Taliban. Enough to make every American democrat ashamed. And agree with the chief of Egypt's Organization for Human Rights who said: "Torture demonstrates that the regime deserves destroying because it does not respect the dignity of the people." (The Nation, 03/31/03). Yes, it is the US which needs a regime change -- before we all become either Gestapo informers or actual goons, or end up rotting in jail.

So who benefits from all this repression at home, torture, destruction and killing of children overseas? Not you or me, not us ordinary Joe and Jane. But the rich, those who profit from controlling world trade, the CEO's of the multi-national corporations, like Goodyear, Texaco, Colgate-Palmolive, WorldCom, which earned more than $12 billion in l996-98 but instead of paying taxes got $535 million in credit and refunds, or General Electric, IBM, Intel, and so many others which paid almost no taxes (NYT 10/20/00), while their CEOs gave themselves such huge bonuses that, combined, they could have built a modest home stocked with a year's worth of healthy food for every poor person in the Third World. In 1997, Occidental Petroleum lost $390 million, but CEO Ray Ironi gave himself a $100 bonus. Sanford Wyle, CEO of Travellers upped him quite a bit, with $230 million. Bill Gates' new mansion cost $53.4 million, more than the budget of 72 countries of the world. In 2000, the rat! io of the average salary of a Japanese CEO to that of a Japanese blue-collar worker was 11 to 1; in the US it was 476 to 1 (Time, 04/24/00). Today the US figures are up another third. Obscene, isn't it? So which country really needs a regime change?

The Gang of Four are dedicated to these greedy bloodsuckers. They will continue to lie, torture and kill for their patrons. As Hitler would have said: Iraq today, the world tomorrow. It is time to stop them. Or to try, anyway. Like the German Catholic underground. They risked their lives, and most did indeed lose them, because they knew in their souls that to conquer the world is more than a sin; it is the establishment of evil on earth.

In Germany the goal was power. In the US the goal is mostly money. The result is the same, and the leaders of this country should be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity, just as they were in Germany. That's why US leaders, who voted for the creation of a War Crimes Tribunal, want Americans to be immune from the court's prosecutors. Understandably, since some of worst crimes against humanity were perpetrated by former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, Reagan's team with its decision to assassinate teachers, doctors, nurses and agricultural workers in order to bring down the government of Nicaragua which had been fairly elected after the revolution, by all of Nixon's top staff, and especially by America's No.1 political gangster, Henry Kissinger who is responsible for the murder of 30,000 Chileans.

American law gives each of us the right to make a citizen's arrest when we see a criminal in action. The Gang of Four are such criminals. Let's stop them. We tried and did fairly well during the Vietnam War. The Gang of Four are tougher; unlike President Johnson they have no human conscience. So it will be harder. But you can do it.


Couldn't take anymore! America is not Germany, Bush is not Hitler, and America is not facsist.

{quote]I say "you" because if this is printed I will surely be arrested and deported to some Arizona desert cave by Ashcroft's criminal organization known as the FBI. Or beaten to death by some American "patriotic" yokel.[/quote]

One could only hope. If nothing else, Wolf wouldn't be able to use your lies anymore!!!
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jun, 2003 10:06 am
McG -- What you're quoting from, above, may sound alarmist but it is not as crazy as you'd like to think. For what it's worth, there are people to the RIGHT of Bush (on my local radio station -- a national rightwing talk show) who believe that globalization is the very devil and that Bush, far from leading it, is a pawn of foreign bankers and multinational corporations. They are often quite convincing, and they are certainly convinced. For your information:

"No nation (certainly not Cuba) must be allowed to maintain an independent course, say the Gang of Four. The world's worst dictators (in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kuwait, Turkey, Kazakhstan et al) are acceptable if they trade by Washington's rules. If not, a "regime change" is the next move." (Members of the administration have said and written about this openly.)

"Most Americans support Bush II and his Gang of Four. So did the Germans support Hitler. He won over 60 percent of the vote in a fair election. He repeated ad nausea [sic] that it was the others' fault and the Germans believed him. It was the Czechs who stole the Sudetenland, he said. Repeat it often, Goebels advised him, and the world will believe it." (As far as I know, this is indisputable.)

"Only those reporters on his "goodie" list could ask him questions. Those who usually pose tough questions were silenced." (That's certainly true. Don't you remember that infamous news conference with selected members of the press?)

And you write: "Lies and conjecture. If they were secret, why do people know about them?" (We know there are people being held secretly -- we are not given their names nor are they allowed public hearings.)

Life gets more interest, more real, and one's opinions more respectable, McG, if one takes it a little bit at a time and less dismissively. An American needs continue to question his government, asking himself, for example, not "will this law affect me I'm not after all a terrorist?" but "will this law affect dissidents, neighbors and friends who believe the Bush administration is dangerous and illegal. Above all will it have an impact on a structure set in concrete by the Constitution and does it betray our Bill of Rights?"
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jun, 2003 11:31 am
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"will this law affect dissidents, neighbors and friends who believe the Bush administration is dangerous and illegal. Above all will it have an impact on a structure set in concrete by the Constitution and does it betray our Bill of Rights?"


Am I missing something? What has happened to lead someone to believe this? I have seen no evidence of anything even resembling this, much less even implying this. It is paranoia to the highest degree to think that not agreeing with the president or calling him names would lead to detention! Unless you make an actual threat to the president, I don't even think an investigation would insue.

There was not one thing in that article that should be believed and I am appalled that anyone would believe such horse ****.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jun, 2003 12:02 pm
McG: You weren't around to witness the injustices of the McCarthy era, the lies and horrors of the Vietnam era, were too young to experience Watergate and the stonewalling by the administration, and you were probably less than riveted by the felonies committed during the Reagan era and the dismissive lack of serious punishment for them. America has a sad history of violating its own rules domestically and internally, and then declaring "that was then, this is now" in an effort to avoid its history. The author of the Global Research article writes pretty badly and dramatizes unnecessarily, but the truth is there. It's not horse ****. I think this time the opposition -- the left and increasing numbers from the right -- are anxious 1) to prevent any further incursions on civil liberties, and 2) to "out" this administration before it folds, and make sure that the punishments fit the crimes and are handed out in a timely fashion. That's urgency you are sensing, not paranoia.

I'm surprised you haven't reacted to the secrecy of the administration. Others have, and some of the most alarmed are Republicans.
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jun, 2003 10:45 pm
And wasn't Sensenbrenner one of the surprises?

Tartarin - there is a whole generation that has grown up only knowing the "me generation." There were no major conflicts, no really bad times - and little history is taught about that.

That might explain some of the reactions to this Iraqi affair. The young age bracket has nothing to link to - and has grown up only in the age of advertising and sit coms. There is no knowledge of the slow growth to power of Hitler, or the years of growing fascism that eventually led to the terrible history of WW II, and the terrible years of McCarthy that followed. Those of us who lived through the Nixon years, the Viet Nam years, have somethings to remember that are concrete.

Last nigt I re-watched "Wag the Dog." It's life and art - you can see the makings of the Iraqi war here, although it was Reagan and Grenada.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 05:27 am
I think it pertinent at this juncture to point out that whether or not America is Germany, and whether or not Bush is Hitler are not germaine to an assertion that the United States might be facist. The term facist was coined by Moussolini, and referred to the faces carried by lictors in the service of the consuls or the dictator in ancient Rome (and the faces were shown on the reverse side of the American dime for more than a generation, a delightful little irony). The term facist refers to a state in which the government and industry, particularly the military industry, ally themselves in order to assure that the highest priority of government will be the service of industry--the people get whatever may be left over.

Bush need not achieve the status of hitlerian megalomaniac to qualify as a facist--he needs only to favor industries' opportunities in his domestic and foreign policies. Such as, say, oh . . . oh i know, let's give Halliburton a contract to run the Iraqi oil fields ! ! !
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 05:33 am
Thank you for pointing that out setanta.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 08:03 am
Well done, Setanta.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 08:33 am
*sigh*

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality -- J. W. Aldridge>


How does this even come close to your definition of fascism? And your example is terrible. Haliburton is one of 5 companies in the entire world that could happen to be able to do the job required in Iraq. They also happen to be the best at what they do. It is unfortunate that Cheney is linked to them, but oh well.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 09:49 am
Setanta

Excellent post.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 10:02 am
Thanks Frank . . .

Hey McG, when someone gets a contract and no bid has been let, then the number of companies in the world which are able to do the job becomes meaningless. By the way, what is your source for the contention that only five firms in the world are able to do the work? Are you comfortable with the thought that the Pentagon awards multi-million, and potentially multi-billion dollar contracts without letting them to bid? I'm certainly not. You also don't give a source for the definition you supply, which i suppose we are to swallow whole, without demur. I'll tell you that any definition which does not include the alliance between government and business/industry is not a sufficient definition, either in simple definition terms, and certainly not in historical definition terms. Your information is impoverished. Do spare us the melodramatics, McG, i assure you none of us care is you sigh or not.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 10:07 am
Yet you continue to believe the US is a fascist government. You make my head spin.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 10:38 am
I'm not in the least responsible for any vertigo which you may suffer. I don't believe that the government are facist, i believe that what the neo-cons wish to establish would be facist; i believe that the invasion of Iraq and the award of an exclusive contract to Halliburton without letting a bid is a facist act. We can only hope that in a free and open society, it is not too late to stop facism before it begins.

I notice you've been unwilling to answer the questions i asked you.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 10:48 am
McG appears to be a True Believer. Critical thought re the Bush administration is thus beyond him...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 11:01 am
D'artagnan, if you have nothing to add, don't add anything. Leave the pettiness at the door.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 11:19 am
McGentrix wrote:
D'artagnan, if you have nothing to add, don't add anything. Leave the pettiness at the door.



whew! pot and kettle! What about Setanta's questions?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 11:23 am
I don't want to pile on, McG, but your baseless defenses just aren't working. Worse, you don't address the core of what people are posting. In the case of the intelligent post made about fascism and its behaviors, you ducked a really important issue: the extent to which in this country at this time government is in league with industry. Not just Bush's administration, but successive administrations since WWII. In some administrations, the partnership has been relatively benign, and in some clearly malignant. The ability of the defense, oil and oil service industries to get contracts without bidding has become an epidemic. When someone wins big, someone loses big. America is now in the latter category, while it's leadership basks in its wins. You, too, are paying for this through your taxes, through lives lost.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2003 11:25 am
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You can look at this Halliburton and Bechtel bidding situation in one of two ways. You can say, "Whoa, this is going to look like favoritism and give the enemy a bunch of ammo to nail Cheney with." That's the knee-jerk reaction of those consumed with seething hatred for Bush.

The other way to look at this is to take into consideration that there aren't too many companies out there who do what these both do, especially on this scale. These people are not building little starter homes on cul-de-sacs in Rio Linda. These people are doing major things and they are eminently qualified. Bechtel is a worldwide contractor and construction company. They built the Hoover dam and have had a relationship with Iraq for decades.

Halliburton is renowned worldwide as an oil industries service company. They're not an oil company per se, but they provide all the equipment for that to happen, plus they have a consulting unit. The only other significant competitor to Halliburton in the bid for what needs to be done in Iraq is a French company by the name of Schlumberger. Now, does anybody really think the Bush administration is going to award the contract to rebuild the Iraqi oil industry to a French company?

The thing I admire about how the administration is going about this is that nobody is trying to fool anybody, there's no phony bid process or any attempt being made to think this is something that it isn't. I think in that sense, there's something to admire about this.

Ties Yes, Tainted No - Talent Definitely

Clearly Halliburton and Bechtel have ties to the Bush administration. You can't deny it. They've contributed to Republican politics. You can't deny that either. However, this is common in all businesses. The same can be said of Cheney's ties too. Some leftists are so quick to say, "Ah ha! Of course Halliburton gets the contract. Those are Cheney's cronies and it's going into Cheney's coffers! Gotcha!"

Dick Cheney has nothing to do with Halliburton anymore, and there's nothing in any of this for him. Whatever Halliburton gets out of this, none of it's going to go to Cheney.

What everyone needs to understand, is that when it comes to business, these are companies that hire the best brain talent in engineering around the world. The kind of jobs these companies do are the kind of jobs that human beings 100 years ago never thought anyone would be capable of doing. These are simply the best candidates for the job.

Yeah, it may look suspicious to people who are looking for problems, but when you focus on the facts instead of fishing for flaws, you realize that these are two of the most qualified businesses in the world. It's not surprising they're American companies. You want to give this to some German company? Name it. A South African company? Name it. A Chinese company? Name it. Is there some company in the Middle East capable of doing what needs to be done there? Is there any country other than the United States that can do this and do it right? There isn't. That's the bottom line.


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