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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 06:33 pm
Car Salesman's Quick Draw Foils Robbery
The Associated Press
Monday, November 13, 2006; 5:42 PM


KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- The bandit should have paid closer attention to the
used car salesman's "Friends of the NRA" ball cap before pulling his gun.
Auto dealer Greg "Lumpy" Lambert, a Knox County commissioner,
said a young man walked onto his sales lot Saturday and was determined
to buy a 2005 Ford Focus.

Lambert said he became suspicious during the test drive when the man
didn't want to haggle over price or even ask for a mechanical inspection.

Presented with the sales paperwork, the man pulled a .25-caliber handgun
from his pocket, apparently to rob him, the commissioner said.

Lambert, a National Rifle Association member who has a ball cap from the group
and has offered free rifles with car purchases in the past,
was ready with his own .380-caliber pistol.

"I think we probably leveled our sights close to the same time," Lambert said.
"I think I got a bit of a drop on him. I told him to drop his weapon, and
he said he didn't want trouble."


[ I can 't imagine Y NOT ]


The suspect fled, but left behind his driver's license.

Kane Stackhouse, 19, was charged Sunday with attempted aggravated robbery
and was being held in jail with bond set at $15,000 bond, the Knox County Sheriff's office said.

Lambert acknowledged the suspect never asked for money or made demands.

"I didn't give him a chance to," Lambert said.
"It was a tense situation, and a little scary."



It might have been a little SCARIER,
if the victim had been UNarmed.

David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 06:34 pm
Everything considered,
its best NOT to be helpless in the face of armed robbery.
David
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 06:37 pm
That was a very exciting story.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 06:43 pm
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
That was a very exciting story.


Wasn't it?

I got so fired up, I just punched myself in the nuts.

Three times.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 06:47 pm
Good thing u were not holding a hammer, Mr. Hoo.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 06:50 pm
Yes, and I suppose that we should learn something from it that would be valuable to our lives

1 Dont assume that the next 19 year old wont pop a (albeit small) cap into your head before you can surprise him with your "lumpy" gun.


2A Ford Focus? chrissakes I wouldnt die for a Ford Focus.
The eulogy:
"Lumpy loved his work and he was a proud member of the NRA, too bad this crazed customer, hell bent on a Ford focus, took him away from us . We can all live in peace knowing that the thieving sumbitch and driver of the Ford Focus was picked off in a car chase that ended in a gun battle that killed two more bystanders"
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 06:57 pm
To heck with the .38, I'd have plugged him twice before he ever got his ass off the chair with my 10mm. Actually, those are kind of expensive bullets, maybe I'd have just tossed in some .40S&W for practice.
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:01 pm
When in Nocksville, ALWAYS haggle over the price to avoid suspishun..
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:02 pm
I understand the benefits of having a gun for protection, and I'm definitely not against that. Even though my mightly lats and gleaming smile is all the defense I need.

However I think that story isn't the greatest case. If the 19 year old shot that dude in the head before he was fully drawn, then it's not the best example.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:07 pm
and Lumpy would not have had a blessed Thanksgiving
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:07 pm
farmerman wrote:
Yes, and I suppose that we should learn something from it that would be valuable to our lives

1 Dont assume that the next 19 year old wont pop a (albeit small) cap into your head
before you can surprise him with your "lumpy" gun.

Examination of history
disproves that criminal strategy.

Such states as Vermont or Alaska,
with no gun laws have not had any greater rate of murders
in support of robberies.




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2A Ford Focus? chrissakes I wouldnt die for a Ford Focus.
The eulogy:
"Lumpy loved his work and he was a proud member of the NRA, too bad this crazed customer, hell bent on a Ford focus, took him away from us . We can all live in peace knowing that the thieving sumbitch and driver of the Ford Focus was picked off in a car chase that ended in a gun battle that killed two more bystanders"

A robbery is an INDIGNITY,
which puts the victim into the perpetrater ' s unlimited discretion;
e.g., a case wherein another criminal automotive customer
made his salesman strip naked and jump out of a moving car,
during his test ride. ( in cold weather, as I remember )

Is that worth fighting back against ?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:13 pm
cjhsa wrote:
To heck with the .38, I'd have plugged him twice before he ever got his ass off the chair with my 10mm.
Actually, those are kind of expensive bullets, maybe I'd have just tossed in some .40S&W for practice.

Yeah; I favor a .44 special loaded with hollowpointed slugs,
with W-I-D-E cavities
David
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:14 pm
Quote:
a case wherein another criminal automotive customer
made his salesman strip naked and jump out of a moving car,
during his test ride. ( in cold weather, as I remember )

Is that worth fighting back against ?
_________________

For arguments sake, Ill assume the second story is true. My answer would, in this case, be HELL NO> If hes being forced to strip , I assume the perp has a gun on the stripping salesman. Id probably try to limit my injuries by proper rolling technique and hope for the best. Would I try to overcome a gun toting driver while unarmed? Thats ridiculous and you know it..

Ive been shot at in anger and hurt in the exchange, so Im in no position to give advice about heroics. Or am I?. Dead is not better, Giving ones life up for cause is different than giving ones life up for property. The first is conviction, the second is idiocy..
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:18 pm
farmerman wrote:
Quote:
a case wherein another criminal automotive customer
made his salesman strip naked and jump out of a moving car,
during his test ride. ( in cold weather, as I remember )

Is that worth fighting back against ?
_________________

For arguments sake, Ill assume the second story is true. My answer would, in this case, be HELL NO> If hes being forced to strip , I assume the perp has a gun on the stripping salesman. Id probably try to limit my injuries by proper rolling technique and hope for the best. Would I try to overcome a gun toting driver while unarmed? Thats ridiculous and you know it..

Ive been shot at in anger and hurt in the exchange, so Im in no position to give advice about heroics. Or am I?. Dead is not better, Giving ones life up for cause is different than giving ones life up for property. The first is conviction, the second is idiocy..

Everyone has the right to make his OWN mistakes.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:30 pm
I guess I am to assume that, in your mind, youve made a point , the logic of which stops all debate? Sorry pal, I just see a dumb but lucky used car salesman, and another, a victim of a carjacking , the story of which had nothing in common with the Lumpian saga.
A big mistake would have been for the gradually stripping guy to attack a gun wielding driver.

Theres the element of too much luck in all your stories OSD. but for the roll, Lumpy could just as easy be on a slab, and the perp would be facing murder for stealing a car and killing Lumpy. You have to realize that the perp #1 was not motivated to kill, but he did get away, but he left his wallet which led police to him.
Ill bet that ole Lumpy crapped his pants later when he realized that he was playing odds and not logic.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:32 pm
Slappy Doo Hoo wrote:
If the 19 year old shot that dude in the head before he was fully drawn, then it's not the best example.


A .25 isn't the best example of a personal protection round either, it's a noisy target round.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:40 pm
So itd be ok if Lumpy just became , say, a large vegetable? Is that yer point?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:49 pm
I wonder if cj or omsig have ever been shot or shot anyone? they sem to have a hard on for it.

I wonder if they know what it smells like or how it burns......because I can't imagine someones dick getting hard about it like theirs does....
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:53 pm
speakin of dick, I hear that you were sporting wood this fine e'en
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 14 Nov, 2006 07:55 pm
" Is that a Buntline Special in yer pants or are you just happy to see me?"

(I have to stay on topic or OSD gets all hissy)
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