1
   

Polls show Americans are 'confused'

 
 
kuvasz
 
  1  
Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2003 01:31 pm
well, well, well. max you just proved what the right does to its opponents. attempt to smear them with feces instead of debating the issues they bring up.

ritter was not charged with child molestation, which does however seem to be a trait found in republican lawmakers lately. the man who ran against joe lieberman for senate in conn. was just sentenced for exactly such actions.
0 Replies
 
McGentrix
 
  1  
Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2003 01:41 pm
Quote:
I hate to disallusion you, Max, but even I have major character flaws.


Say it ain't so, Frank! Say it ain't so! :wink:
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2003 01:48 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Quote:
I hate to disallusion you, Max, but even I have major character flaws.


Say it ain't so, Frank! Say it ain't so! :wink:



Ssshhhh!

I'm tryin' ta make a point, McG!
0 Replies
 
maxsdadeo
 
  1  
Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2003 09:37 pm
come down off that high horse, kuvasz, that isn't a tactic exclusive to conservatives, you know it,and I will call you a bald face liar if you try to maintain that it is.

Here is your link, frank.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/26/ritter.arrest/

Keep holding him up to high regard and we start to see that the ends justify the means for you "progressive folks", don't we?

love the sig, McG.
0 Replies
 
kuvasz
 
  1  
Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2003 10:30 pm
maxsdadeo wrote:
come down off that high horse, kuvasz, that isn't a tactic exclusive to conservatives, you know it,and I will call you a bald face liar if you try to maintain that it is.

Here is your link, frank.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/26/ritter.arrest/

Keep holding him up to high regard and we start to see that the ends justify the means for you "progressive folks", don't we?

love the sig, McG.


when you can show me when a concerted effort of liberal columists, government officials, and leftwing internet sites attack a person's private life who is an expert on a topic of public discussion, all to distract from the message that person is broadcasting, i will be happy to examine what you put forth, because this is exactly what happened to ritter over the past year....and i will assume beforehand you are not foolish enough to mention trent lott's name as rebuttal.

i really dont think you get it yet. i posted ritter's critque because you, in upper case type wanted either A or B about wmd when your entire premise was undermined by what ritter talked about. you responded to this information, not with a detailed critique of your own about what was presented by ritter in type or by sound, but by attacking him for chasing little girls.

its as if someone told you your fly is open, and you respond by calling them ugly.

its beside the point. zip up your fly and explain why ritter is wrong.
0 Replies
 
snood
 
  1  
Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2003 10:38 pm
kuvasz wrote:
maxsdadeo wrote:
come down off that high horse, kuvasz, that isn't a tactic exclusive to conservatives, you know it,and I will call you a bald face liar if you try to maintain that it is.

Here is your link, frank.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/26/ritter.arrest/

Keep holding him up to high regard and we start to see that the ends justify the means for you "progressive folks", don't we?

love the sig, McG.


when you can show me when a concerted effort of liberal columists, government officials, and leftwing internet sites attack a person's private life who is an expert on a topic of public discussion, all to distract from the message that person is broadcasting, i will be happy to examine what you put forth, because this is exactly what happened to ritter over the past year....and i will assume beforehand you are not foolish enough to mention trent lott's name as rebuttal.

i really dont think you get it yet. i posted ritter's critque because you, in upper case type wanted either A or B about wmd when your entire premise was undermined by what ritter talked about. you responded to this information, not with a detailed critique of your own about what was presented by ritter in type or by sound, but by attacking him for chasing little girls.

its as if someone told you your fly is open, and you respond by calling them ugly.

its beside the point. zip up your fly and explain why ritter is wrong.



<applause from the peanut gallery>
0 Replies
 
maxsdadeo
 
  1  
Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2003 11:21 pm
there is this:
http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/122/hill/hilloutline2.htm

and your gonna LOVE this one:
Quote:
The myth of 'McCarthyism' is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times," Coulter pounds. "Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. Everything you think you know about McCarthy is a hegemonic lie."

"Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals...

"McCarthy was not tilting at windmills. Soviet spies in the government were not a figment of right-wing imaginations. He was tilting at an authentic Communist conspiracy that had been laughed off by the Democratic Party. "


Quote:
If any other religious cult knew so few basic facts about its own seminal beliefs as the liberal cult does about Joe McCarthy, Janet Reno would gas them.

Despite the left's creation of a myth to defeat legitimate charges of treason, McCarthy had so badly stigmatized Communism, his victory survived him. In his brief fiery ride across the landscape, Joe McCarthy bought America another thirty years. For this, he sacrificed his life, his reputation, his name. The left cut down a brave man, but not before the American people heard the truth.

These are from the upcoming best seller by Ms. Ann Coulter.

It is a pernicious habit shared by all politicians, kuvasz and I stand by my original post.
0 Replies
 
kuvasz
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 12:46 am
http://home.mindspring.com/~fcalaja/_uimages/strangelove3coulter.jpg

He he heh…… Anita Hill And Anne Coulter, what are you smoking tonight? Pass me that $hit!
Ms. Coulter first.


"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
Ann Coulter, following 9/11 terrorist attacks

"Indeed, an attack on America by fanatical Muslims had finally provided liberals with a religion they could respect."

"Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam (post 9/11). Even terrorists don't hate America like liberals do."

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn into outright traitors."

Based upon your posting others remarks of hers, I assume then you agree with these remarks by Coulter?

Now onto the funny business; because what Coulter said is nothing more than historically inaccurate and so funnily off the mark that one wonders if she can tell black from white.

Which leads to Anita Hill and the amusing link you provided. Thanks. I had seen it before. I think masseggetto posted it on the "buzz. It still is a piece of work, isn't it? That the author can so be undermined by what David Brock admitted about the stuff in your link. Imagine that?

"David Brock, who came to the national forefront with the 1993 title The Real Anita Hill, now says he lied about Hill and that the book was a sham propagated by the conservative right. Brock said that he "lost [his] soul" when he willingly allowed himself to be used as a pawn by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to assassinate Hill's credibility in the accusations she made about Thomas during the time of his appointment to the Supreme Court. "Thomas was complicit in an effort to discredit another witness against him with negative personal information," said Brock, "which is exactly what he claimed the Anita Hill forces had done to him." Brock additionally admits strong-arming other witnesses such as Kaye Savage to retract negative statements against Thomas by threatening to "blacken her name, just as I had done to every other woman who had impugned Thomas's reputation." Thomas has not commented on the allegations."

Listen to:

Journalist David Brock, whose 1993 book attacked the credibility of law professor Anita Hill, now says he printed lies about Hill following her testimony against then-Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas. In an exclusive interview, NPR Legal Affairs Correspondent Nina Totenberg talks to Brock about the confession, detailed in a forthcoming book.

Brock now says that, when he was writing for the conservative magazine The American Spectator and researching his book The Real Anita Hill, he was a tool of right wing activists who fed him false information about Hill. At the time, Brock tells Totenberg, he accepted the truthfulness of the information without checking. But he since has learned he helped spread lies, he says, and is trying to set the record straight.

http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2001/jul/010702.brock.html

http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/atc/20010702.brock.ram

Borking Brock

Conservatives try to discredit a former ally -- but not his conservative-friendly writings.

"There is one thing missing from all this criticism of Brock, though. If he's as untrustworthy as conservatives now say he is, that means his original trashing of Anita Hill needs to be called into question. But nobody's doing that. Nobody's saying that "The Real Anita Hill" is too flawed to be believed. Conservatives apparently have too much invested in their vision of Clarence Thomas as victim of a "high-tech lynching" to consider the possibility that Hill may have been telling the truth."

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2001/update072001.html

And this is the best part. What you did on-site on this thread to Ritter, is just what the Right did to Brock after he finally admitted lying about Anita Hill, and admitting that Clarence Thomas definitely lied under oath, viz., there was minimal discussion by the Right of the data Brock presented, nor was there any substantiated rebuttals based upon the facts, and instead of the facts being attacked the person delivering the facts was attacked.

Looking at this in juxtaposition with the weird pearls of wisdom from the mouth of Ms. Coulter each of us posted, it appears reasonable to consider that camp quite unreasonable, as in "without logic," and possessing of a distorted perspective of reality so ingrained as to approach the level of brainwashing.

When ideology gets in the way of reality, its bad juju. Anne Coulter is bad, very bad juju.

and BTW you still have not responded to the facts with any evidence to counter ritter's that dispute the basic tenet of the presence of wmd you declare and instead decided to change the topic and offer up "i stand by my original post," as if that is a reasonable defense of your position that has any meaning when facts show them untenable.
0 Replies
 
maxsdadeo
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 06:42 am
Well, kuvasz, we are going to have to agree to disagree, since you are obviously too sequestered in your blindingly white hot rage against all things conservative that you will continue to parse and rationalize until your face is as blue as your dog's tongue.

I see it was YOU who attacked Ms. Coulter rather than her writing regarding Joe McCarthy, could it be that in addition to her being pretty, smart, rich and conservative, she is also CORRECT?

It would appear so.

Anita Hill was a far greater pawn than David Brock in the Clarence Thomas debacle, and thanks for bringing up Robert Bork.

Yes, kuvasz, continue to wrap yourself in the flag of sanctimonious smugness, you haven't changed my mind about liberals one bit.

But I DO appreciate the exchange.

Have a great weekend, buddy.
0 Replies
 
PDiddie
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 06:49 am
Laughing TKO Laughing

(actually the Big White Dog wins by default, since his opponent is now high-tailing it...) :wink:

Beaten like a red-headed daddy... I love it...

Please don't run away, max; I have really enjoyed watching this.
0 Replies
 
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 06:55 am
Max
By defending McCarthyism you have lost the last shred of credibility with me. I will no longer directly address your political posts.
0 Replies
 
maxsdadeo
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 07:13 am
Wow!!!

PDid.... now There's an unbiased source, I'm still here edgar.

I also forgot to mention Charles Pickering.
(What is it with liberals and judges, anyway?)

~maxsdadeo reaches down and picks up a white towel~

"Did you drop this Pdid, cuz it isn't mine!"

I didn't defend McCarthyism, edgar, so don't get so plussed.

I pointed out some quotes from an upcoming book which defends Joe McCarthy.

Can you distinguish between the man and the legacy ascribed to him?

I'm betting that if you really try, you can.

I have faith in you edgar, don't let me down!
0 Replies
 
PDiddie
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 07:21 am
I think Ann's shooting her wad.

Obviously, Slander, with its fusty 19th Century overtones, had limited market potential in this post-modern age, and ultimately had to go, but how does one top Treason? "Cannibalism"? "Satanism"?

It's so ridiculous it's hilarious.

I mean, if a collection of people with similar political ideology were really guilty of treason, our country would by now be in the grip of a power-mad minority running roughshod over centuries of established procedure to ensure their unchallenged grip on power, regardless of popular will, while violating the most elementary due process...

Oh.
0 Replies
 
maxsdadeo
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 07:23 am
Wassamatta, PDid, too much yogurt today?
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 07:25 am
How about we make a list of every confirmed communist Joe Mc Carthy discovered working for the government.

I'll start:
0 Replies
 
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 07:31 am
McCarthyism and Joe McCarthy are the same fabric, no matter whom among McCarthyists did what. Revisionist efforts to seperate the man and the work are just an attempt at subverting the conclusion of the McCarthy hearing, attempting to somehow validate their destruction of so many innocent lives. I consider it an insult to the innocents who were guilty of absolutely nothing.
0 Replies
 
PDiddie
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 10:31 am
This thread needs a slight shift away from the nasty personal commentary, and back in the general direction of its original premise. Since I ranted here once about the banality of the Cable News Network (and even though it's only marginally on the topic) I'm going to have at them again.

There is something vaguely distasteful about watching CNN devote an entire segment to pimping Harry Potter merchandise (of course, Warner Bros. is releasing the movie, and Time-Warner/AOL is the parent company of both).

It speaks volumes that a CNN anchor like Heidi Collins -- presumably a serious news personality -- is not above putting on a pair of HP glasses and a HP cape like a good little career-minded drone and jabbering excitedly about the HP knickknacks that are rolling out today.

Doesn't it occur for a second to anyone at CNN that giving the War on Terror and the Harry Potter movie equal weight as 'news' is precisely why no one with half a damn brain takes them seriously any more?

Synergy. Bah. Just gimme some damn news for a change.

An idle question to CNN: any plans to try and get your journalistic integrity back any time soon?

Thought not.
0 Replies
 
kuvasz
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 10:49 am
maxsdadeo wrote:
Well, kuvasz, we are going to have to agree to disagree, since you are obviously too sequestered in your blindingly white hot rage against all things conservative that you will continue to parse and rationalize until your face is as blue as your dog's tongue.

I see it was YOU who attacked Ms. Coulter rather than her writing regarding Joe McCarthy, could it be that in addition to her being pretty, smart, rich and conservative, she is also CORRECT?

It would appear so.

Anita Hill was a far greater pawn than David Brock in the Clarence Thomas debacle, and thanks for bringing up Robert Bork.

Yes, kuvasz, continue to wrap yourself in the flag of sanctimonious smugness, you haven't changed my mind about liberals one bit.

But I DO appreciate the exchange.

Have a great weekend, buddy.



first. leave my dog out of this and good grief, are you color blind too? her tongue is not blue, its as red as any good Bolshevik is...bah hah hah!

I will respond to the well documented erroneous and inflamatory comments of your wet dream idol after you finally get back on topic about ritter's data that undermine your assumptions.

You have never responded to them except with bloviation, instead you threw out Anne Coulter's comments as some sort of loopy defense for not answering the question.

I hope that you are not, as Anne Coulter says about the editors of that paragon of leftist thought control, the National Review who fired her for her bizarre comments, "a girly boy" who cant respond to direct questions without obfustication and non sequiters?

If you want to talk about coulter, start a thread about her. I can respond to her allegations whenever you like, as soon as you respond to the information provided by ritter with a detailed analysis as to why he is wrong, which was kith and kin to the original topic of this thread.

max you have continued the standard knee jerk reaction from the right when its ideas are challenged with the facts. you run away or change the subject.

so answer the questions put to you, start that anne coulter thread, and i will be there to discuss coulter, anita hill, david brock and even the lies of tailgunner joe for your educational experience.


BTW pdiddie, no fair using eschaton talking points!!
0 Replies
 
snood
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 11:37 am
<the peanut gallery goes wild>
0 Replies
 
PDiddie
 
  1  
Reply Sat 21 Jun, 2003 01:17 pm
kuvasz wrote:
BTW pdiddie, no fair using eschaton talking points!!


I love that guy. He (and you, for that matter) are waaay smarter than me, so don't tell me I can't get some coaching.

snood wrote:
the peanut gallery goes wild


Hog-ass buck wild. (Aren't you glad he's on our side?)
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

T'Pring is Dead - Discussion by Brandon9000
Another Calif. shooting spree: 4 dead - Discussion by Lustig Andrei
Before you criticize the media - Discussion by Robert Gentel
Fatal Baloon Accident - Discussion by 33export
The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie - Discussion by bobsal u1553115
Robin Williams is dead - Discussion by Butrflynet
Amanda Knox - Discussion by JTT
 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.06 seconds on 11/01/2024 at 01:36:02