When Does Life Begin?

Chumly wrote:

Love can be assessed with modern psychology and medical instrumentation. Love has a definitives biological survival rational in the form of pair bonding and related socio-survival mechanisms.

I would love to see the medical instrument that can accurately detect and/or quantify love.

and btw Chumly, what is 'a definitives biological survival rational' ?

Chumly wrote:

Neo's rulebook on Argumentation Theory:

- Admit nothing!
- Defer everything!
- Claim other posters must substantiate their positions while you never do!
- Claim that whomever according to you was first to forward a viewpoint you disagree with, must then be the one to substantiate it, while you true to form, provide zero argument to support your disagreement of said viewpoint!

You need a new bag of tricks, your old one is getting pretty shopworn.

Chumly wrote:

. . .As to who presumably "brought up the the subjects of original sin and punishment" I recommend you review Bart's specious claims and thus my in kind response. . . .

Hmm! I see what you mean.

Well, the bible doesn't use the term 'original sin'. And our human condition is not a punishment, according to the bible, but a consequence.

I don't know who in this thread used the term 'original sin' first, but there is no way for me to discuss it from the point of view of the bible. Since the title of this thread has to do with the state of the unborn, perhaps another thread is in order.

neologist wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Neo's rulebook on Argumentation Theory:

- Admit nothing!
- Defer everything!
- Claim other posters must substantiate their positions while you never do!
- Claim that whomever according to you was first to forward a viewpoint you disagree with, must then be the one to substantiate it, while you true to form, provide zero argument to support your disagreement of said viewpoint!

You need a new bag of tricks, your old one is getting pretty shopworn.

Chumly wrote:

. . .As to who presumably "brought up the the subjects of original sin and punishment" I recommend you review Bart's specious claims and thus my in kind response. . . .

Hmm! I see what you mean.

Well, the bible doesn't use the term 'original sin'. And our human condition is not a punishment, according to the bible, but a consequence.

I don't know who in this thread used the term 'original sin' first, but there is no way for me to discuss it from the point of view of the bible. Since the title of this thread has to do with the state of the unborn, perhaps another thread is in order.

He did....I just said the unborn and newborns were innocent. Then he flipped and broke out the DBSR to take accurate readings and.......

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real life wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Love can be assessed with modern psychology and medical instrumentation. Love has a definitives biological survival rational in the form of pair bonding and related socio-survival mechanisms.

I would love to see the medical instrument that can accurately detect and/or quantify love.

and btw Chumly, what is 'a definitives biological survival rational' ?

neologist wrote:

real life wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Love can be assessed with modern psychology and medical instrumentation. Love has a definitives biological survival rational in the form of pair bonding and related socio-survival mechanisms.

I would love to see the medical instrument that can accurately detect and/or quantify love.

and btw Chumly, what is 'a definitives biological survival rational' ?

Definitive: "s" was a typo. And yep there are plenty of biological and sociological indicators for the emotion of love.

Since you are too much of a prudish schoolmarm to study up on said biological and sociological indicators for the emotion of love, then you'd best ensure you don't look up your skirt.












BTW have any of you superstition-addled-bible-humpers noticed how iffy the A2K server has been lately?

BTW have any of you superstition-addled-bible-humpers noticed how iffy the A2K server has been lately?

neologist wrote:

real life wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Love can be assessed with modern psychology and medical instrumentation. Love has a definitives biological survival rational in the form of pair bonding and related socio-survival mechanisms.

I would love to see the medical instrument that can accurately detect and/or quantify love.

and btw Chumly, what is 'a definitives biological survival rational' ?

Definitive: "s" was a typo. And yep there are plenty of biological and sociological indicators for the emotion of love.

Since you are too much of a prudish schoolmarm to study up on said biological and sociological indicators for the emotion of love, then you'd best ensure you don't look up your skirt.

Bartikus, Most of us know what "life" is.........

real: Ok, so if you do, then when does life begin?



You still haven't learned about the birds and bees? Shame on you!

Ofcoarse human life begins at conception; it sure ain't a boid if the parents are human. What's your point? Some die before birth of natural causes. Many die after birth from starvation.