neologist wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:Diest: It's true though. RL would like to make decisions for other people... as long as the consequences stay far away from him.
That's what I've been saying all along; real only wants to take control of the woman's body while she's pregnant, and not have any responsibility for the baby after it's born. Hypocrite!
You may be right, CI.
But does RL's intent have any bearing on whether or not a fertilezed egg is a human being?
Neo - RL's intent has zero effect on whether a fertilized egg is a human being. having said that, the relevance or usefulness of this information has yet to be argued convincingly. Remember that "murder," a legal term is not even defined as a medical term. This movement to overlap the medical and legal institutions is only a play to use a back door.
My opinion on this matter has always been that the Pro-life croud is almost solely emotionally driven to their conclusion, and have yet to highlight the cultural/societal dangers of abortion in which abortion would need to be made illegal. The morality of the operation is not to be predetermined by outsiders such as RL. I stand by my words that abortion can be done for the right reasons AND the wrong. Those wrong reasons, are the burden of those who make them (I think you'll agree, although for different reasons) and not an issue for law.
The only issue of law I will acknowledge is how we do them, etc. I think that patients should have in and out care, consultations, etc just like other operations. It's hard to get to this point however when the right-to-judge groups are already attacking the clinics. So I'll chose my battles. The battle that needs to be fought right now is whether one group can push their morality into law at the cost of other's liberties. I say no.
Hokie - Rl is looking for a marker for when before it abortion would be legal and after it abortion would be illegal. When you say the "first few weeks," RL lacks the comprehension that you have actually provided a marker. RL, like many people for making abortion illegal demand that the marker correspond to some biological marker, typically choosing the marker of conception as it provides ans absolute end to abortion in their mind. What RL fails to understand is that the legal marker does not have to be congruent with ANY marker whatsoever. He fails to see any of the comprimises offered.
I'm still for him getting pregnant though.
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