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Michigan - Vote YES on 3!

 
 
blacksmithn
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:28 am
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Jesus thats a pathetic picture. Look at these five feeling all proud and mighty because they've succeeded in shooting one wild animal with their five modern guns. Booyaa. I bet they have small dicks.


And tiny brains to match...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:34 am
If Ron Jeremy were in the picture, what the excuse be then, Nimh?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:38 am
Hunting boar is quite danderous really. They don't always lay down after you shoot them.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:39 am
You're dating yourself McG.
It's now Lexington Steele.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:42 am
Ahem, I meant "dangerous" not "danderous". Though I guess it could be that too.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 08:46 am
McGentrix wrote:
If Ron Jeremy were in the picture, what the excuse be then, Nimh?

I dont know who Ron Jeremy is.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:14 am
nimh wrote:
I dont know who Ron Jeremy is.


Nor do you understand the destructive nature of feral pigs. It's open season on them here in all 50 states basically all year long.

Get with the program folks.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:19 am
http://whyfiles.org/160invasive_spec/images/pig_wanted.gif
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:20 am
nimh wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
If Ron Jeremy were in the picture, what the excuse be then, Nimh?

I dont know who Ron Jeremy is.


Shocked

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jeremy

I didn't think there was anyone who didn't know who Ron Jeremy was...
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:23 am
http://www.goupstate.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/NEWS/610300316/1018/SPORTS

Hunters responsible for saving hunting
Published October 30, 2006

A couple of weeks back, I was privileged to hear South Carolina Representative Mike Pitts, who has been recognized by the National Rifle Association as the state's "Legislator of the Year," address the annual meeting of the South Carolina Outdoor Press Association. This came after he had spent the entire day with members, hunting quail at River Bend Sportsman's Resort; sitting in on presentations involving knife sharpening, gun cleaning, and photography; and sharing in the organization's annual awards banquet.

Pitts is the genuine article, a man who loves hunting and has a passion for seeing this precious legacy passed on to future generations.

Simply put, hunters face huge problems. Mushrooming human populations, dwindling public hunting lands, increasing urbanization, a loss of love of the land and connection to it, and rapidly rising nonresident license fees are among a myriad of factors making life increasingly difficult for the sportsman.

Yet significant as they undoubtedly are, these issues pale by comparison with the concerted efforts of those generally described as animal activists. Well financed, the beneficiaries of plenty of free legal assistance, and masters of emotional rhetoric, groups such as People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) and the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) are attacking the institution of hunting on multiple fronts. Even more alarming is the fact that they recently joined forces.

For the most part the hunting community has been reactive, as opposed to proactive, in dealing with PETA, HSUS, and their various imitators. Fortunately, some of their excesses, such as attacks on research labs using animals, an incident where scores of the animals they swear to protect were put to death, misguided jail breaks freeing minks, and wantonly illegal interference with hunters, have brought just enough negative publicity to offset their too frequent successes.

Yet the activists plow heedlessly ahead and will continue to do so. Given this situation, it behooves sportsmen to recognize the need to address anti-hunting sentiments in a meaningful fashion.

That involves convincing the vast majority of Americans who neither hunt nor support animal activists of hunting's merits. What follows are suggestions of how the committed, ethical sportsman can do his part in that regard.

• Strive to have a good image. Too often the image of hunters which springs to the non-hunter's mind is one of a slovenly poacher who trespasses with abandon, ignores game laws, dumps deer offal along roadways, and generally behaves in an unacceptable fashion. This can be countered through respect for property and game and accomplished in countless small actions, from always leaving a clean campsite and asking permission to hunt to full utilization of one's kill or sharing meat with the needy. All such actions collectively project a positive image.

• Join conservation groups. There are dozens of wildlife conservation groups, from one-species organizations such as the National Wild Turkey Federation and Ducks Unlimited to general groups such as the Izaak Walton League, which function as focal points for activism. Increasingly, these organizations recognize the truth of the old adage about there being safety in numbers, and along with safety comes strength. This is an area where sportsmen have often fallen short, tending to bicker among themselves rather than presenting a united front.

• Be active in the local community. There are literally scores of ways, from adopting a section of highway to keep clean to organizing a "Hunters for the Hungry" project or a soup kitchen, in which hunters can make positive contributions.

• Support women hunters. The much-heralded Becoming an Outdoorswoman program, the National Wild Turkey Federation's Women in the Outdoors initiative, and the National Rifle Association's "Women's Outlook" magazine have all made significant strides in introducing females to hunting.

• Be an educated hunter. It helps, especially when conversing with non-hunting friends, to be able to express in intelligent words what you feel in the heart. In this regard, knowledge of the vital place hunting has had in human history helps, as does familiarity with the part hunters have played in conservational success stories such as the comebacks of white-tailed deer and wild turkeys.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 09:27 am
McGentrix wrote:
nimh wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
If Ron Jeremy were in the picture, what the excuse be then, Nimh?

I dont know who Ron Jeremy is.


Shocked

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jeremy

I didn't think there was anyone who didn't know who Ron Jeremy was...


I didn't know who he was either.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 12:57 pm
cjhsa wrote:
What follows are suggestions of how the committed, ethical sportsman can do his part in that regard.

• Strive to have a good image. Too often the image of hunters which springs to the non-hunter's mind is one of a slovenly poacher who trespasses with abandon, ignores game laws, dumps deer offal along roadways, and generally behaves in an unacceptable fashion. This can be countered through respect for property and game and accomplished in countless small actions, from always leaving a clean campsite and asking permission to hunt to full utilization of one's kill or sharing meat with the needy. All such actions collectively project a positive image.

• Join conservation groups. There are dozens of wildlife conservation groups, from one-species organizations such as the National Wild Turkey Federation and Ducks Unlimited to general groups such as the Izaak Walton League, which function as focal points for activism. Increasingly, these organizations recognize the truth of the old adage about there being safety in numbers, and along with safety comes strength. This is an area where sportsmen have often fallen short, tending to bicker among themselves rather than presenting a united front.

• Be active in the local community. There are literally scores of ways, from adopting a section of highway to keep clean to organizing a "Hunters for the Hungry" project or a soup kitchen, in which hunters can make positive contributions.

• Support women hunters. The much-heralded Becoming an Outdoorswoman program, the National Wild Turkey Federation's Women in the Outdoors initiative, and the National Rifle Association's "Women's Outlook" magazine have all made significant strides in introducing females to hunting.

• Be an educated hunter. It helps, especially when conversing with non-hunting friends, to be able to express in intelligent words what you feel in the heart. In this regard, knowledge of the vital place hunting has had in human history helps, as does familiarity with the part hunters have played in conservational success stories such as the comebacks of white-tailed deer and wild turkeys.

All sounds like sound advice.

So of these five points, how many do you feel you are following? Do you do the "full utilization of one's kill or sharing meat with the needy"? Are you a member of conservation groups? Are you making a positive contribution somewhere from adopting a section of highway to keep clean to organizing a "Hunters for the Hungry" project or a soup kitchen?

Do you feel that you express in intelligent words what you feel in the heart, when you converse with us non-hunters?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 12:59 pm
nimh wrote:
Do you feel that you express in intelligent words what you feel in the heart, when you converse with us non-hunters?


I've tried repeatedly. Sometimes I do lose my temper.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 03:17 pm
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Strive to have a good image. Too often the image of hunters which springs to the non-hunter's mind is one of a slovenly poacher who trespasses with abandon, ignores game laws, dumps deer offal along roadways, and generally behaves in an unacceptable fashion.

As a recent recitivist hunter Ive been ashamed that the training and extended hunting "family" that I shared in as a kid, doesnt seem to translate till today. The careless regard for life and property seems to be on a growth curve and hunters have noone to blame but themselves. We should police our numbers so that the people who disregard property or livestock (or pets) should be cast out and not allowed to hunt.

In Pa, even if you shoot another human being you only lose your hunting PRIVILEGES for a few years (max of 15 for a killing). This is ludicrous.

As far as doves, ehh , I dont see what the deal is . I hunted doves years ago and dont like the "pellet burgers" from shooting them. Even the smallest shot in a 410 wil leave enough pellets in the breast to bust a tooth, and you know it, you never get em all.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2006 06:36 pm
McGentrix wrote:
nimh wrote:
I dont know who Ron Jeremy is.

Shocked

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jeremy

I didn't think there was anyone who didn't know who Ron Jeremy was...

Oh my. No, didnt know.

Well, guns and porn - seems like an appropriate enough mind association..
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 06:28 am
Farmerman, one of the reasons for so much hunter trespass is because of the idiots drawing up the maps of state land. I have the same problem on my northern Michigan property. I hate putting up "No Hunting/Trespass" signs but when the state publishes maps showing private property as public, what can you do?

Now, back to the topic at hand, but let's talk about another state.

To put things in perspective. Pennsylvania's State Bird is the ruffed grouse. Any bet the next fight comes here? After all it is the State Bird. If the antis get a victory in MI, they WILL target other States. PA, SD, CA and Alaska all have widely recognized game birds as their state bird. Once the hunting of these birds is stopped in their "Official States " the remaining states will fall. This IS NOT ABOUT DOVES THIS IS ABOUT HUNTING AND THE AVENUES ANTIS WILL USE TO KILL ALL HUNTING.
The Anti's have 3 modes of attack in PA using the "its the State Bird, Animal, Fish" argument. In PA that means White Tail Deer, Ruffed Grouse and Brook Trout.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 06:54 am
Ahh. The domino theory of hunting laws. By the same reasoning, we should be allowed to kill every living thing without limit because apparently any law putting constraints on hunting will inevitably lead to a general ban on all hunting. Fascinating.

And by fascinating, I mean paranoid and kind of sad.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 07:01 am
Vote yes on 3!!! Kill ****. Cook it. Eat it.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 07:04 am
I fail to see how the hunting of "****" would be pleasant or fulfilling, but there are probably no laws against it. Go ahead. Find an outhouse and bag your limit.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 07:07 am
cjhsa takes his killing seriously, doesn't he.
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