Intrepid wrote:oralloy wrote:Intrepid wrote:oralloy wrote:If everyone carried a gun, they'd be much less likely to be attacked by a predator, and much more likely to survive if a predator did attack them.
Are you speaking of human or animal predators?
Both. Obviously only a human predator would be deterred by knowledge that a victim had a gun. But when it comes to fending off an attack, a gun helps in both cases.
How the hell does the predator KNOW that the victim has a gun?
Because the scenario was based on my comment "If everyone carried a gun".
Miller wrote:Quote:if there is such a threat, try to aim so that each shot hits both the heart and the spine, and fire continuously until the bad guy drops.
Why not aim for the head, between the eyes?
Because you'll miss.
When you miss the heart and spine, you'll still tear up their lungs.
oralloy wrote:oralloy wrote:farmerman wrote:Ive gotta level with you I dont understand all the rules of gunplay?
Only draw your gun if there is a serious and imminent threat of violence.
If there is such a threat, try to aim so that each shot hits both the heart and the spine, and fire continuously until the bad guy drops.
Different rules apply in Texas, of course. There you are allowed to lie in wait and shoot a thief in the back as they flee.
But don't try that outside of Texas.
Oh, and careful of Texas repo men.
Some guy in Texas had his truck repossessed because he was late on payments, and he blew away the repo man who was taking his truck.
Since he said he thought he was shooting a fleeing thief, he didn't go to jail (although the bank still took his truck), and now repo guys in Texas are a bit jumpy.
A little more than a decade past, Chuckie Heston gave a speech in a central BC city on gun ownership. The federal government was considering a firearm registration program, since put into legislation. The NRA campaigned against the proposal as they wished to push back against the gathering momentum and the precedent, even if with a neighbor. In finishing his speech, Chuckie said, "Support your God-given right to bear arms!" There was no indication he felt compelled to cite the relevant biblical passage.
America is nuts about a lot of things (by which I mean, chew at your own intestines and rip off your own ears pathological) but this gun/violence thing sits near the top of the list. There are lots of guns in Canada too, and there are those who appreciate the aesthetics of fine engineering and machining or who have guns for practical reasons.
But in America, guns and violence have become the prime symbols of a cult. Note the sexual-dominance braggadocio which underlies posts by oralloy, omsig, cjhsa and others.
Please grow real penises you are actually proud of, boys.
America is in desperate need of a good spanking. Unfortunately, with Foley now gone, who else might be up to the task?
blatham wrote:Note the sexual-dominance braggadocio which underlies posts by oralloy, omsig, cjhsa and others.
Please grow real penises you are actually proud of, boys.
It isn't necessary for you to spew bigoted stereotypes like a Klan dragon.
Quote:It isn't necessary for you to spew bigoted stereotypes like a Klan dragon.
Uh... Invoking the Klan is like invoking the name of Hitler, by the rules of Godwin's Law, this thread is now mindless.
This is one time that I totally agree with blatham!
farmerman wrote:Quote:It isn't necessary for you to spew bigoted stereotypes like a Klan dragon.
Uh... Invoking the Klan is like invoking the name of Hitler, by the rules of Godwin's Law, this thread is now mindless.
Not if actual bigotry of that caliber is being denounced.
I remember calling someone a Nazi once (not on A2K). I did so because he was espousing actual Nazi beliefs about racial purity.
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Intrepid wrote:This is one time that I totally agree with blatham!
Bigotry is an ugly thing.
oralloy wrote:farmerman wrote:Quote:It isn't necessary for you to spew bigoted stereotypes like a Klan dragon.
Uh... Invoking the Klan is like invoking the name of Hitler, by the rules of Godwin's Law, this thread is now mindless.
Not if actual bigotry of that caliber is being denounced.
I remember calling someone a Nazi once (not on A2K). I did so because he was espousing actual Nazi beliefs about racial purity.
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Intrepid wrote:This is one time that I totally agree with blatham!
Bigotry is an ugly thing.
big·ot [ bíggət ] (plural big·ots)
noun
Definition:
intolerant person: somebody with strong opinions, especially on politics, religion, or ethnicity, who refuses to accept different views
I guess you would have to fall within this definition.
Quote:Not if actual bigotry of that caliber is being denounced.
Caliber? You can't get away from those guns and bullets, can you?
The Gun laws in NZ are very strict. Handguns can only be used by registered handgun users. All Guns must be stored with the actions removed (if possible) and with the ammunition also locked in a separate room.
Most NZers have grown up around guns, rifles and shotguns mostly. As until very recently most of NZ was involved in farming. But even with such weapons background checks are thorough and compulsory.
Kiwimac
Hi kiwimac. Welcome to A2K.
What is the crime rate like in NZ? Did it change any with the gun laws?
Intrepid wrote:I guess you would have to fall within this definition.
Nope.
Maybe these examples will help you understand what a bigot is:
Nazis are bigots against Jews.
KKK clowns are bigots against non-whites.
oralloy wrote:Intrepid wrote:I guess you would have to fall within this definition.
Nope.
Maybe these examples will help you understand what a bigot is:
Nazis are bigots against Jews.
KKK clowns are bigots against non-whites.
I already understand what a bigot is. I am conversing with one.
kiwimac wrote:The Gun laws in NZ are very strict. Handguns can only be used by registered handgun users. All Guns must be stored with the actions removed (if possible) and with the ammunition also locked in a separate room.
Most NZers have grown up around guns, rifles and shotguns mostly. As until very recently most of NZ was involved in farming. But even with such weapons background checks are thorough and compulsory.
Kiwimac
Registration is bad, but I don't think safe storage requirements and background checks are necessarily strict.
I am not sure I see the wisdom in storing the guns with the actions removed and separate from the ammo though. It would preclude rapid access to the weapons in an emergency, and so long as the guns are adequately locked up, there would seem to be little need for it.
The wisdom is to keep guns away from children. Also to make access difficult in domestic situations. etc. etc. The wisdom of such actions seem to go over the heads of those who are blinded by the vigilante mentality.
I can't imagine living in a place where people are so frightened and crime is so rampant that people are not safe even in their own homes.
oralloy wrote:Intrepid wrote:I am conversing with one.
Liar/Hypocrite.
Oooohhh. Oralloy is getting angry. Just the right frame of mind for a gun toting vigilante.
oralloy, How far would you go to assure that children arent able to reach guns until a certain age where they can absorn the significance of guns and their danger?
You recognize the danger of guns yet you are rather cavlier about accessing them.
Intrepid wrote:The wisdom is to keep guns away from children. Also to make access difficult in domestic situations. etc. etc. The wisdom of such actions seem to go over the heads of those who are blinded by the vigilante mentality.
Simply keeping the guns locked up will keep the guns away from children.
You really shouldn't run around talking about wisdom. You aren't equipped for it.
Intrepid wrote:oralloy wrote:Intrepid wrote:I am conversing with one.
Liar/Hypocrite.
Oooohhh. Oralloy is getting angry.
Hardly. You are a liar and a hypocrite, and I merely called you what you are.
Intrepid wrote:Just the right frame of mind for a gun toting vigilante.
Bigot.
