THE DANGER OF GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES

BTW...Don't you think the proper authorities (i.e. police) could be onsite before some twit could get those M-16's out of the safe.

Also, have you considered that more children could be hit by the m-16 fire than could be hurt by a potential killer?

oralloy wrote:

Dartagnan wrote:

It's funny how whenever someone opens fire on innocent people, it somehow becomes an argument for MORE guns in the community.

What is funny about it?

The primary cause of crime is unarmed victims.

Do you have facts to back this up? Are you saying that crime is caused because people are not armed? Does that mean that if everybody carried a gun, there would be no crime?

Intrepid wrote:

BTW...Don't you think the proper authorities (i.e. police) could be onsite before some twit could get those M-16's out of the safe.

Some twit? You mean the principal?

No, I don't think the authorities would be likely to get there first.

Intrepid wrote:

Also, have you considered that more children could be hit by the m-16 fire than could be hurt by a potential killer?

There is a reason that the principal should be required to be properly trained in the use of his weapon.

What would you suggest for the weapon of choice against a bomber?

Intrepid wrote:

oralloy wrote:

Dartagnan wrote:

It's funny how whenever someone opens fire on innocent people, it somehow becomes an argument for MORE guns in the community.

What is funny about it?

The primary cause of crime is unarmed victims.

Do you have facts to back this up? Are you saying that crime is caused because people are not armed? Does that mean that if everybody carried a gun, there would be no crime?

If everyone carried a gun, they'd be much less likely to be attacked by a predator, and much more likely to survive if a predator did attack them.

oralloy

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What is wrong with carrying a gun at the grocery store?!?!

. Cause i can see most anyone armed going berserk and Id hate to have an allout gunbattle break out in the deteregent aisle.

Imagine road rage if people in cars were armed. Weve had a number of shootings and a few murders due to road rage in Philly. The only thing that allowed a bird flipping to turn into a homicide is what ?

You trust people to do the right thing and just use guns for defense? riiiiight.

Guns do not belong anywhere near children, much less innocent people.

If you want to shoot someone specifically, why should anyone else be 'fall out'?

Guns are NOT the answer and the United States should listen to that.

One of the saddest things I've ever heard was a young boy calling 911 because he'd shot his 8 yr old sister - he'd pointed a gun (unknowingly loaded) at her through a glass door and pulled the trigger. She dropped dead immediately. He was hysterical and blaming himself. He was 9. How sad was that?

A Leader in today's The Guardian:

Triggering tragedy

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It is a tragic truth that the killer of the Amish girls had no criminal record and was described by his wife as a good husband and father, so on the face of it there would have been no bar to him buying his shotgun, semi-automatic pistol, rifle and ammunition. It is doubtless also true that most US gun owners are respectable, law-abiding citizens. But it is hard to see the sense of opposing at least criminal background checks on every gun purchase and limits on the number of firearms an individual can purchase at any one time or in a given period.

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Amazingly to many non-Americans, gun control remains a taboo in US politics. Gun ownership and hunting are the norm in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. The Brady law, requiring background checks, though not for unlicensed dealers, was resisted tooth and nail. Bill Clinton tried but failed to ban the sale of all automatic weapons.

Do you think there is another western democracy in the world which tolerates this madness?

Why does the US?


Because the lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

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BY CHELSEA J. CARTER
Associated Press

ATLANTA -- The United States has by far the highest rate of gun deaths -- murders, suicides and accidents -- among the world's 36 richest nations, a government study found.
The U.S. rate for gun deaths in 1994 was 14.24 per 100,000 people. Japan had the lowest rate, at .05 per 100,000.

Obviously, not all Americans are of the Oralloy or Omsig sort, feeling manly and independent only with a bazooka pointing out of their arses.

You could probably be taken more seriously if you were advocating a sky marshall type situation in schools rather than arming chldren, teachers or principals. As it is, I think putting guns into schools is ridiculous.

Intrepid wrote:

What would you suggest for the weapon of choice against a bomber?

Depends on the scenario.

oralloy wrote:

If everyone carried a gun, they'd be much less likely to be attacked by a predator, and much more likely to survive if a predator did attack them.

Are you speaking of human or animal predators?

When people are allowed to carry concealed weapons, they in fact do tend to use their guns only for self-defense.

Is firing the first shot after being flipped the bird a means of self defense?

Ive gotta level with you I dont understand all the rules of gunplay?

Youre just being silly just to show me that you can be silly.

Intrepid wrote:

oralloy wrote:

If everyone carried a gun, they'd be much less likely to be attacked by a predator, and much more likely to survive if a predator did attack them.

Are you speaking of human or animal predators?

Both. Obviously only a human predator would be deterred by knowledge that a victim had a gun. But when it comes to fending off an attack, a gun helps in both cases.

if there is such a threat, try to aim so that each shot hits both the heart and the spine, and fire continuously until the bad guy drops.

farmerman wrote:

Ive gotta level with you I dont understand all the rules of gunplay?

Only draw your gun if there is a serious and imminent threat of violence.

If there is such a threat, try to aim so that each shot hits both the heart and the spine, and fire continuously until the bad guy drops.

Switzerland keeps only a small standing army, and relies much more heavily on its militia system for national defense. This means that most able-bodied civilian men of military age keep weapons at home in case of a national emergency. These weapons are fully automatic, military assault rifles, and by law they must be kept locked up. Their issue of 72 rounds of ammunition must be sealed, and it is strictly accounted for. This complicates their use for criminal purposes, in that they are difficult to conceal, and their use will be eventually discovered by the authorities.

As for civilian weapons, the cantons (states) issue licenses for handgun purchases on a "must issue" basis. Most, but not all, cantons require handgun registration. Any ammunition bought on the private market is also registered. Ammunition can be bought unregistered at government subsidized shooting ranges, but, by law, one must use all the ammunition at the range. Actually Awitzerland is not a free-gun zone as you seem to make it appear.