THE DANGER OF GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES

Mame wrote:

What happens when someone jumps you and they slit your throat and your blood is pouring out and suddenly you're dead and you've never had a chance to even think about your gun much less reach for it? What good was it then?

So basically you're carrying a gun 100% of the time for the infinitessimal chance of being attacked? The odds are so against you.

What a pointless thing to worry about.

The idea is that if you and all your neighbors carry guns, then when somebody muggs you, your neighbor can shoot the mugger while his hands are tied up with you and, when the mugger goes to mug your neighbor, then YOU can shoot him while his hands are tied up with her.

What's complicated about that? I mean, it only sounds stupid on first blush; that's the way things actually were in the US 150 years ago.

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What if you are alone? What if he's quicker than the two of you? What if he slit your throat while your buddy was getting his gun out of his pocket, then he threw the bloody knife at buddy and got him in the throat (or chest or head)?

Or what if you were alone?

Or what if your neighbour doesn't like you and actually cheers the mugger on?

(shakes head sadly)... there's just no guarantee you'd win...

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gungasnake:

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...that's the way things actually were in the US 150 years ago.

You like a lot about the US of 150 years ago, do you?

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Gunfights in the streets at dawn. Or was that dusk? Gee, I better do some more research on how things used to be.

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Ahh yes, the wild frontier. Where men were men, the women looked like men and everybody hated the Indians. And Mexicans. And blacks. Oh and the Chinese. Everybody REALLY hated the Chinese.

Talk about the good old days... Rolling Eyes

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Poor, poor gunga - he was just born at the wrong time.

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Mame wrote:

What if you are alone? What if he's quicker than the two of you? What if he slit your throat while your buddy was getting his gun out of his pocket, then he threw the bloody knife at buddy and got him in the throat (or chest or head)?

Or what if you were alone?

Or what if your neighbour doesn't like you and actually cheers the mugger on?

(shakes head sadly)... there's just no guarantee you'd win...

U r right, Mame.

The 2nd Amendment does not warrant
that u will win every gunfight;
it just offers u the chance to fight back
against predators,
on a more even playing field,
by stopping government from
interfering on behalf of the bad guy,
by disarming U.

That 's better than nothing,
and its all that the Founders expected.
David

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Mame wrote:

Why would I be kidding?

Because your post was extremely unrealistic and had nothing to do with real-world self defense situations.

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blacksmithn wrote:

Presumably because you're not afraid to leave the house armed to the teeth. Or not so afraid of your government or the United Nations or (fill in the blank) that you feel the need to stockpile armaments. Certain paranoiacs may find this unbelievable.

Much like their behavior appears to sane people.

Do you wear a seat belt in cars because you are a paranoid who is in mortal terror of car crashes, or do you do it because it makes sense to be prepared for a car crash even though they are unlikely?

Enough of the bigoted stereotypes of gun-owners' motives (and that wasn't just directed at your post).

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Mame wrote:

What if you are alone? What if he's quicker than the two of you? What if he slit your throat while your buddy was getting his gun out of his pocket, then he threw the bloody knife at buddy and got him in the throat (or chest or head)?

What if an asteroid hit the earth and killed everybody?

Mame wrote:

(shakes head sadly)... there's just no guarantee you'd win...

No one said there was. But it is much better to be able to defend yourself if you are attacked than it is to not be able to defend yourself if you are attacked.

A seatbelt is no guarantee that people will survive a car crash. Neither is an airbag.

Does that mean we should do away with seatbelts and airbags?

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As I intimated before, certain paranoiacs find it impossible to believe in life without firearms. Such an existence is typically greeted with incredulity and derision.

That this attitude, along with an often evinced compulsion to collect an ever growing arsenal, speaks more about their mindset than it ever does about the ostensibly violent or treacherous environment in which they purport to be immersed and from which perforce they seek to protect themselves, escapes them completely.

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Im carrying an RPG right now. Nobody gonna phuck with this Ukey

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Yes, but you're probably just going hunting. Laughing

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There were several fights and a stabbing or two, not to mention one suicide, at our local schools recently. Oh, yeah. Give 'em guns all right. Smart. Real smart.

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oralloy wrote:

blacksmithn wrote:
Presumably because you're not afraid to leave the house armed to the teeth. Or not so afraid of your government or the United Nations or (fill in the blank) that you feel the need to stockpile armaments. Certain paranoiacs may find this unbelievable.

Much like their behavior appears to sane people.

Do you wear a seat belt in cars because you are a paranoid who is in mortal terror of car crashes, or do you do it because it makes sense to be prepared for a car crash even though they are unlikely?

Enough of the bigoted stereotypes of gun-owners' motives (and that wasn't just directed at your post).

As for me and my family, we wear our seatbelts mainly because it is the law.

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oralloy wrote:

A seatbelt is no guarantee that people will survive a car crash. Neither is an airbag.

Does that mean we should do away with seatbelts and airbags?

A seatbelt and airbag are attached to the vehicle and do not require (other than actually putting on the seatbelt) user intervention when it becomes necessary to employ them. They work in just the right situations.

Can you say the same about a paranoid, frightened person with a gun? Will they use exact judgement in firing said weapon?

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Oh great. Now we'll get a diatribe about how virtually every gunowner is each specially trained and highly skilled marksmen...

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blacksmithn wrote:

Oh great. Now we'll get a diatribe about how virtually every gunowner is each specially trained and highly skilled marksmen...

The accuracy of the shot is not as important as when to make the shot.
:wink:

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Scary stuff, man!

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oralloy wrote:

blacksmithn wrote:
Presumably because you're not afraid to leave the house armed to the teeth. Or not so afraid of your government or the United Nations or (fill in the blank) that you feel the need to stockpile armaments. Certain paranoiacs may find this unbelievable.

Much like their behavior appears to sane people.

Do you wear a seat belt in cars because you are a paranoid who is in mortal terror of car crashes, or do you do it because it makes sense to be prepared for a car crash even though they are unlikely?

Enough of the bigoted stereotypes of gun-owners' motives (and that wasn't just directed at your post).

I know you were not responding to me, but I'd like to say that I don't wear my seat belt and it's because I can't stand being strapped into anything.
Seat belts can also take lives, but that's another thread.

Comparing guns to seat belts is a stretch, I think.

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