rosborne979
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:00 pm
RexRed wrote:
rosborne979 wrote:
echi wrote:

What is "spirit"?
What does that mean? Is there any other way to say it?
And don't forget... What is "life force"?


You're not trying to have an actual conversation with RexRed, are you?


The WALL of science...


The murky mists of self delusion.
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Eorl
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:01 pm
rosborne979 wrote:
echi wrote:

What is "spirit"?
What does that mean? Is there any other way to say it?
And don't forget... What is "life force"?


You're not trying to have an actual conversation with RexRed, are you?


Yeah, and I've been trying also. Don't know what got into me. He does seem to have the odd lucid moment, and before you know it, you're fooled into thinking you're having a conversation.
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echi
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:01 pm
Rex wrote:
God as "love" is part of the eternal isness...




This "eternal isness" relates to humankind, how?? Creator? Something that is eternal cannot, by itself, create. Creation requires a time dimension that does not apply to something eternal.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:06 pm
Hitler thought himself to be highly scientific...

Is that any worse than some theists? YES! To do things by faith is not as bad as dictating human perceptions under the often limited and erroneous guise of "science".

Until science can answer questions beyond it's own walls there will be faith.

Faith bridges the gap between where the wall of science leaves off and God.

Science is a corporation.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:07 pm
Eorl wrote:
rosborne979 wrote:
echi wrote:

What is "spirit"?
What does that mean? Is there any other way to say it?
And don't forget... What is "life force"?


You're not trying to have an actual conversation with RexRed, are you?


Yeah, and I've been trying also. Don't know what got into me. He does seem to have the odd lucid moment, and before you know it, you're fooled into thinking you're having a conversation.


That was funny even to me.
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rosborne979
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:09 pm
Eorl wrote:
Yeah, and I've been trying also. Don't know what got into me. He does seem to have the odd lucid moment, and before you know it, you're fooled into thinking you're having a conversation.


Usually those moments don't last long. As you can see from his posts.

Have fun Smile
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:11 pm
echi wrote:
Rex wrote:
God as "love" is part of the eternal isness...




This "eternal isness" relates to humankind, how?? Creator? Something that is eternal cannot, by itself, create. Creation requires a time dimension that does not apply to something eternal.


Not everything is our universe is physical.

Like zeros and ones in binary numbering there are the created elements and the uncreated elements.

There are the finite and the eternal (timeless).
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:16 pm
rosborne979 wrote:
Eorl wrote:
Yeah, and I've been trying also. Don't know what got into me. He does seem to have the odd lucid moment, and before you know it, you're fooled into thinking you're having a conversation.


Usually those moments don't last long. As you can see from his posts.

Have fun Smile


Faith is beyond your expertise, Ros...
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echi
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:20 pm
RexRed wrote:
Hitler thought himself to be highly scientific...

Is that any worse than some theists? YES! To do things by faith is not as bad as dictating human perceptions under the often limited and erroneous guise of "science".

Until science can answer questions beyond it's own walls there will be faith.

Faith bridges the gap between where the wall of science leaves off and God.




Where, or how, does this "bridge" connect?
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echi
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:22 pm
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
Rex wrote:
God as "love" is part of the eternal isness...




This "eternal isness" relates to humankind, how?? Creator? Something that is eternal cannot, by itself, create. Creation requires a time dimension that does not apply to something eternal.


Not everything is our universe is physical.

Like zeros and ones in binary numbering there are the created elements and the uncreated elements.

There are the finite and the eternal (timeless).




God is both finite and eternal?
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:24 pm
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Hitler thought himself to be highly scientific...

Is that any worse than some theists? YES! To do things by faith is not as bad as dictating human perceptions under the often limited and erroneous guise of "science".

Until science can answer questions beyond it's own walls there will be faith.

Faith bridges the gap between where the wall of science leaves off and God.




Where, or how, does this "bridge" connect?


The new birth of the holy spirit seed within.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:39 pm
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
Rex wrote:
God as "love" is part of the eternal isness...




This "eternal isness" relates to humankind, how?? Creator? Something that is eternal cannot, by itself, create. Creation requires a time dimension that does not apply to something eternal.


Not everything is our universe is physical.

Like zeros and ones in binary numbering there are the created elements and the uncreated elements.

There are the finite and the eternal (timeless).




God is both finite and eternal?


God is both creator (all powerful) and he relates to his creation (personal).

The part that relates to his creation may be a temporal state for it is an awareness within the physical world that (physical world) most likely may not exist in this same state forever.

The physical world also may transform into a more energized state at some point.
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echi
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:43 pm
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Hitler thought himself to be highly scientific...

Is that any worse than some theists? YES! To do things by faith is not as bad as dictating human perceptions under the often limited and erroneous guise of "science".

Until science can answer questions beyond it's own walls there will be faith.

Faith bridges the gap between where the wall of science leaves off and God.




Where, or how, does this "bridge" connect?


The new birth of the holy spirit seed within.



In what way does the "new birth of the holy spirit seed within" connect to science?

If there is no connection, no relation, then there is no bridge.
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:45 pm
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Hitler thought himself to be highly scientific...

Is that any worse than some theists? YES! To do things by faith is not as bad as dictating human perceptions under the often limited and erroneous guise of "science".

Until science can answer questions beyond it's own walls there will be faith.

Faith bridges the gap between where the wall of science leaves off and God.




Where, or how, does this "bridge" connect?


The new birth of the holy spirit seed within.



In what way does the "new birth of the holy spirit seed within" connect to science?

If there is no connection, no relation, then there is no bridge.


Only the holy spirit through the revelation of God can invent...
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echi
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:50 pm
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
Rex wrote:
God as "love" is part of the eternal isness...




This "eternal isness" relates to humankind, how?? Creator? Something that is eternal cannot, by itself, create. Creation requires a time dimension that does not apply to something eternal.


Not everything is our universe is physical.

Like zeros and ones in binary numbering there are the created elements and the uncreated elements.

There are the finite and the eternal (timeless).




God is both finite and eternal?


God is both creator (all powerful) and he relates to his creation (personal).

The part that relates to his creation may be a temporal state for it is an awareness within the physical world that (physical world) most likely may not exist in this same state forever.

The physical world also may transform into a more energized state at some point.



If one part is eternal and another part is temporal, they must be separate parts. If there are separate parts, then there is more than one God.
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echi
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:55 pm
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Hitler thought himself to be highly scientific...

Is that any worse than some theists? YES! To do things by faith is not as bad as dictating human perceptions under the often limited and erroneous guise of "science".

Until science can answer questions beyond it's own walls there will be faith.

Faith bridges the gap between where the wall of science leaves off and God.




Where, or how, does this "bridge" connect?


The new birth of the holy spirit seed within.



In what way does the "new birth of the holy spirit seed within" connect to science?

If there is no connection, no relation, then there is no bridge.


Only the holy spirit through the revelation of God can invent...



So, how does this faith bridge pick up where science leaves off?
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:57 pm
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
Rex wrote:
God as "love" is part of the eternal isness...




This "eternal isness" relates to humankind, how?? Creator? Something that is eternal cannot, by itself, create. Creation requires a time dimension that does not apply to something eternal.


Not everything is our universe is physical.

Like zeros and ones in binary numbering there are the created elements and the uncreated elements.

There are the finite and the eternal (timeless).




God is both finite and eternal?


God is both creator (all powerful) and he relates to his creation (personal).

The part that relates to his creation may be a temporal state for it is an awareness within the physical world that (physical world) most likely may not exist in this same state forever.

The physical world also may transform into a more energized state at some point.



If one part is eternal and another part is temporal, they must be separate parts. If there are separate parts, then there is more than one God.


One God with several dimensions.

Just as a painter puts a part of themselves in their artwork...
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echi
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 10:03 pm
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
Rex wrote:
God as "love" is part of the eternal isness...




This "eternal isness" relates to humankind, how?? Creator? Something that is eternal cannot, by itself, create. Creation requires a time dimension that does not apply to something eternal.


Not everything is our universe is physical.

Like zeros and ones in binary numbering there are the created elements and the uncreated elements.

There are the finite and the eternal (timeless).




God is both finite and eternal?


God is both creator (all powerful) and he relates to his creation (personal).

The part that relates to his creation may be a temporal state for it is an awareness within the physical world that (physical world) most likely may not exist in this same state forever.

The physical world also may transform into a more energized state at some point.



If one part is eternal and another part is temporal, they must be separate parts. If there are separate parts, then there is more than one God.


One God with several dimensions.

Just as a painter puts a part of themselves in their artwork...


"One God with several dimensions", none of which is eternal as long as one of them is temporal.
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 10:06 pm
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
Rex wrote:
God as "love" is part of the eternal isness...




This "eternal isness" relates to humankind, how?? Creator? Something that is eternal cannot, by itself, create. Creation requires a time dimension that does not apply to something eternal.


Not everything is our universe is physical.

Like zeros and ones in binary numbering there are the created elements and the uncreated elements.

There are the finite and the eternal (timeless).




God is both finite and eternal?


God is both creator (all powerful) and he relates to his creation (personal).

The part that relates to his creation may be a temporal state for it is an awareness within the physical world that (physical world) most likely may not exist in this same state forever.

The physical world also may transform into a more energized state at some point.



If one part is eternal and another part is temporal, they must be separate parts. If there are separate parts, then there is more than one God.


One God with several dimensions.

Just as a painter puts a part of themselves in their artwork...


"One God with several dimensions", none of which is eternal as long as one of them is temporal.


Love is both eternal and temporal.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 10:08 pm
The temporal is an "image" of the eternal...
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