rosborne979 wrote:RexRed wrote:And you are stupid.

Now you sound like my ex-fiance... the crazy woman

The whole world is crazy except for you and me and sometimes I wonder about you... hehe
RexRed wrote:rosborne979 wrote:RexRed wrote:And you are stupid.

Now you sound like my ex-fiance... the crazy woman

The whole world is crazy except for you and me and sometimes I wonder about you... hehe
"You ain't leading but two things right now, Jack and Sh*t.... and Jack left town". (quote from Army of Darkness)
rosborne979 wrote:RexRed wrote:rosborne979 wrote:RexRed wrote:And you are stupid.

Now you sound like my ex-fiance... the crazy woman

The whole world is crazy except for you and me and sometimes I wonder about you... hehe
"You ain't leading but two things right now, Jack and Sh*t.... and Jack left town". (quote from Army of Darkness)
John 15:20
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Rex,
I certainly do not believe that it was the voice of satan.
Your own unconscious mind seems the likely culprit, here.
The unconscious is much more intelligent than the conscious mind. The unconscious mind informs our sense of right and wrong ("gut" instincts) and regulates our life sustaining bodily processes. The unconscious mind is deeper than we can imagine.
"Minister" is not a word that you did not know, just one that you would not have used, consciously. That may be the very reason your unconscious mind chose to use it. Otherwise, you may not have been convinced.
echi wrote:Rex,
I certainly do not believe that it was the voice of satan.
Your own unconscious mind seems the likely culprit, here.
The unconscious is much more intelligent than the conscious mind. The unconscious mind informs our sense of right and wrong ("gut" instincts) and regulates our life sustaining bodily processes. The unconscious mind is deeper than we can imagine.
"Minister" is not a word that you did not know, just one that you would not have used, consciously. That may be the very reason your unconscious mind chose to use it. Otherwise, you may not have been convinced.
But why can't God work through the mind of the believer?
Ro 8:27
And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the
mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Maybe I just don't know what "God" means.
echi wrote:Maybe I just don't know what "God" means.
This Psalm defines the personal part of God.
Psalms 23:1-6
1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever
How do I get off this thread?
The Great Tao flows everywhere.
It may go left or right.
All things depend on it for life, and it does not turn away from them.
It accomplishes its tasks, but does not claim credit for it.
It clothes and feeds all things, but does not claim to be master over them.
Always without desires, it may be called the Small.
All things come to it and it does not master them;
it may be called The Great.
rosborne979 wrote:RexRed wrote:And you are stupid.

Now you sound like my ex-fiance... the crazy woman

Was she crazy before she accepted your proposal?
Or did she become crazy after you were engaged?
real life wrote:Was she crazy before she accepted your proposal?
Yeh, but not as crazy as I was to offer it
All I can say is that ALL concepts used by humankind are humankind's constructions. But there is nothing in the world that is OBJECTIVELY/ABSOLUTELY good (in the essentialist sense of Good-ness) or evil (in the essentialist sense of Evil-ness). I use the terms for things of which I approve and for things of which I do not approve. It's as simple as that.
There is an unfortunate tendency for many to label subjective anything that cannot be agreed upon. The implication being that all beliefs on the subject are equally valid and simply a "matter of opinion."
This is a product of the somewhat understandable, but societally dangerous notion of moral relativism.
We need not engage in philosophical or metaphysical debate to understand that as attractive as uncertainty may be to our limited (but preening), modern intelligence, society cannot function properly with it as its foundation.
Because we are able to discern the root causes of an individuals pathology, doesn't mean that his or her actions are not evil. There is an almost 100% certainty that any homocidal pedophile was abused as a child, but that fact doesn't make his or her desires and actions any less evil. 100% of abused children do not become homocidal pedophiles, and so there is clearly a distinction between those that do and those that do not.
While there may be some irrational people, on the Right and on the Left, who abuse the use of the label, the rest of us (and them as well I believe) recognize evil when we see it.
There is certainly no need to introduce mythology about Satan to the concept. Evil can exist without some centralized source.
CS Lewis, in his Space Trilogy had an excellent way to represent the concept of evil: Those characters who we might consider evil were described, as "bent."
There is a right and wrong way to live. If you cannot agree to this fundamental concept than you have surrendered to chaos, and reflect not enlightenment but either dispair or ignorance.
Very very few of us are so well formed as to glide effortlessly upon the path to Virtue or Godhead (depending upon your personal preference), but those of us so malformed as to be unable to move, at all, along that path are "bent" or evil.
Whether the bent ones need to be eliminated or isolated, it should be clear that they cannot be allowed to infect or destroy the rest of us.
If you prefer intellectual ambiguity to certainty, that's fine, but as a member of society you should not allow your self-indulgent mind games to disrupt the societal need for order and consequence.
@Finn dAbuzz,
F dA, I do not define "subjective" as that which cannot be agreed upon. Cultures consist of agreement, agreement about shared conceptual/value constructions that may be termed "intersubjective". Intersubjectivity is what we confuse with objectivity.
And that's an objective fact.
@Finn dAbuzz,
You're in quite a twist Finn...
(what's with yer panties?)
@Rockhead,
Not at all, unless you define disagreement with "panty twisting."
Perhaps you do when the person who disagrees is someone with whom you disagree.
Good for you too.
Forget about what relgions are saying about good and bad or universall "evil" or "good". Defination of them is given by man. There is no good or bad, it is only matter of perspective. The logical way for survival of mankind is help each other, not to do harm and work together for better tomorrow.
How is 'Evil' different from 'bad'?