vikorr
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 03:56 am
entered in error :>
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tenderfoot
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 10:07 pm
Evil is the bastard that talks me into buying lotto tickets that never win.

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aperson
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2009 10:43 pm
@echi,
Technically incorrect... the subconscious isn't more "intelligent" than the conscious mind - it can't perform higher cognitive tasks for one - but it is certainly capable of a lot more than we would expect. Apart from that I agree with you entirely
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vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2009 04:13 am
Quote:
(a) What do you mean? How could making the choice to commit adultery not be deliberate?

(b) Do you feel there are cases where adultery did not cause harm or suffering to someone along the line?


This is of particular interest to me, though I've never been there myself. It's of interest because I think in certain circumstances adultery is acceptable. Not ideal, but acceptable.

In the first instance, I believe that "Every person is solely responsible for their own happiness".

Secondly, when people get married, their happiness becomes partially tied to that of their husband/wife.

Many marriages, for whatever reason, end up being unhappy (or happy in some part, and unhappy in other parts). Many individuals within a relationship, seek (and hint, and hint, and talk and hint to the other) their 'needs' from the other person (whether for attention, creation, love, intimacy or other) without getting anywhere (that they do this imperfectly is another topic altogether).

If after multiple attempts, the other person is not 'making' you happy, the only person left to 'make' you happy, is yourself (the only person left to look after your happiness, is yourself). To not seek your own happiness shows a lack of respect for yourself, and is a betrayal of yourself (again - we are all solely responsible for our own happiness)

Sometimes, for whatever reason, one person (or both parts) of the partnership ends up tired / bored / irritable / lonely / miserable / frustrated / angry /crying themselves to sleep or any combination thereof.

In seeking to look after your own happiness, you may choose a path (in this discusssion, Adultery) that may possible end up in the hurt of the other party (the husband / wife). There is no intention to hurt the other party (in the form I'm talking about), merely a desire to fill a missing void in the persons life...and hence they engage in adultery - obtaining their 'need' from a person willing to fulfil their need.

Now, I think there are better ways of dealing with a dying marriage - a marriage that isn't growing is dying (which is the situation where most adulteries that I'm talking about occurr), however, for many reasons, people in dying marriages want to 'try and make it work' (yes, while sleeping with another person).

The another down side of such is that it hurts the person indulging in it, as they have to deceive their husband/wife to hide the activity.

Of course a worse form of adultery (that's right, there are degrees), occurs when a man/woman believes that sleeping around during marriage is 'normal', or do so 'because they can', not realising that this is disrespectful (among other things), and genuine love can't exist without respect.
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BDV
 
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Reply Fri 13 Mar, 2009 10:04 pm
@RexRed,
Evil i would say is knowingly commiting an act which you know will cause harm for your own amusement or gains
JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 16 Mar, 2009 02:40 pm
@BDV,
I don't know if I've said this before, but here goes:
There is a conceptual difference between the contrasts good vs. bad and good vs. evil. The latter should be, I suppose: goodness vs evil. This is a metaphysical contrast. It seems to me a simple matter of evaluating an act as bad or good (for someone or something) . Goodness vs. evil, however, smacks of the metaphysical difference between God and Satan--an abstract contrast between pure and absolute values as such.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 16 Mar, 2009 03:29 pm
@JLNobody,
yes of course, ie I am the epitome of absolute goodness and purity while Mr RexRed is my contrast.
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Treya
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2009 03:58 pm
@RexRed,
Hum... I believe evil has a name... it's... Set... well according to those christians anyway.... heh... (Lighten up Set I'm just kidding!! Very Happy) Evil is the bad stuff that happens that's thought out, planned, ordained by someone, whatever. Killing someone just for sport, because you want that $20 in their wallet. I don't believe demons are sitting on everyone's shoulders telling them all these bad things to do to dishonor god or whatever. It's just people being people. I think there's a little bit of evil in all of us. Some more than others.
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aperson
 
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Reply Fri 20 Mar, 2009 03:12 am
Within the human society and psychology there is evil. In reality, there isn't.

Evil is still a valid concept, even though it doesn't exist. Paradox? No. It is useful within a certain context.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 01:30 pm
I think that evil is a religious word where ethics is a sociological word. Can society have good without religion?
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 02:19 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

I think that evil is a religious word where ethics is a sociological word. Can society have good without religion?
Yes.
(Romans 2:13-15) . . . For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. 14 For whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15 They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts ,. . . (Emphasis mine)
Sglass
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 04:03 pm
Evil is that space where there is no gratitude.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 09:03 pm
@neologist,
Very nice Neo

Does the law written in the heart supersede the law written in the bible?

John 1:27 KJV He it is , who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose .
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2009 02:46 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

Very nice Neo

Does the law written in the heart supersede the law written in the bible?

John 1:27 KJV He it is , who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose .

Not necessarily.
(Proverbs 16:25) . . .There exists a way that is upright before a man, but the ways of death are the end of it afterward."

But we all have an inborn conscience; that was my point.
RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2009 03:09 pm
@neologist,
Neo I believe Jesus was a liberal and John the baptist was a conservative... what do you think about that??
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2009 05:04 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

Neo I believe Jesus was a liberal and John the baptist was a conservative... what do you think about that??
I believe they both worshipped the same God.
RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2009 06:12 pm
@neologist,
Yes but they both had different creeds. JTB took a Nazarite vow yet JC was a friend of publicans and sinners. How did God perceive this different approach to his supposed unchanging will?
Eorl
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2009 07:27 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

I think that evil is a religious word where ethics is a sociological word. Can society have good without religion?


Of course. Can society have good WITH religion? Of course. Can society ever be completely without religion, or without "good"? I doubt it.
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neologist
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2009 11:06 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

Yes but they both had different creeds. JTB took a Nazarite vow yet JC was a friend of publicans and sinners. How did God perceive this different approach to his supposed unchanging will?
How did their approach go against God's will?
RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2009 11:52 pm
@neologist,
God's right and left brain lobes makes him/her display multiple personalities. Smile
 

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