Define "Evil"...

It is much easier to say, evil does not exist or cannot be defined, than to take the effort to understand the inner workings of the spirit.

Just like a snake in a room.

You turn on the light (God) in the room (world) and see a snake (evil) in the corner.

So by turning out the light the snake disappears? But the snake is still there in the dark and can sense heat and sound better than a human. Because their senses are more acute than that of a humans. Humans have a spiritual sense but that sense needs light to operate.

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It is much easier to say, evil does not exist or cannot be defined, than to take the effort to understand the inner workings of the spirit.

Not hard to understand for the person that is making it up as they go along. Such is the case with the fantasy life you masquerade as debateable content.
Things such as 'evil' and 'spirit' only exist objectively inside your rather vivid imagination.

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Doktor S wrote:

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It is much easier to say, evil does not exist or cannot be defined, than to take the effort to understand the inner workings of the spirit.

Not hard to understand for the person that is making it up as they go along. Such is the case with the fantasy life you masquerade as debateable content.
Things such as 'evil' and 'spirit' only exist objectively inside your rather vivid imagination.

Making it up or learning from the spirit? Comparing spiritual things with spiritual things... If one has already closed the discourse (light) with the understanding of spirit then it is no wonder that some are in the dark about the constituents of the spirit.

1Co 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

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RexRed wrote:

Doktor S wrote:
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It is much easier to say, evil does not exist or cannot be defined, than to take the effort to understand the inner workings of the spirit.

Not hard to understand for the person that is making it up as they go along. Such is the case with the fantasy life you masquerade as debateable content.
Things such as 'evil' and 'spirit' only exist objectively inside your rather vivid imagination.

Making it up or learning from the spirit? Comparing spiritual things with spiritual things... If one has already closed the discourse (light) with the understanding of spirit then it is no wonder that some are in the dark about the constituents of the spirit.

1Co 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

With unfailing consistancy, you leave me wondering whether the message is lost through your inability to communicate it, or if you are saying exactly what you mean and you are just loony.

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Doktor S wrote:

With unfailing consistancy, you leave me wondering whether the message is lost through your inability to communicate it, or if you are saying exactly what you mean and you are just loony.

Pssst...

http://www.holoweb.com/cannon/images/loonxx.jpg

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Doktor S wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Doktor S wrote:
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It is much easier to say, evil does not exist or cannot be defined, than to take the effort to understand the inner workings of the spirit.

Not hard to understand for the person that is making it up as they go along. Such is the case with the fantasy life you masquerade as debateable content.
Things such as 'evil' and 'spirit' only exist objectively inside your rather vivid imagination.

Making it up or learning from the spirit? Comparing spiritual things with spiritual things... If one has already closed the discourse (light) with the understanding of spirit then it is no wonder that some are in the dark about the constituents of the spirit.

1Co 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

With unfailing consistancy, you leave me wondering whether the message is lost through your inability to communicate it, or if you are saying exactly what you mean and you are just loony.

I don't think you are relaying the question properly... If you are just trying to get me to accept your insult then go jump in the lake with the rest of the loony birds...

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rosborne979 wrote:

Doktor S wrote:
With unfailing consistancy, you leave me wondering whether the message is lost through your inability to communicate it, or if you are saying exactly what you mean and you are just loony.

Pssst...

Ros, what really in the last few pages have you had to positively contribute to this discussion of spirituality?

Where is all of your endless wit then? There is a time for distractions and a time for reason. You seem to only as of lately had time for distractions.

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If you can't pick apart specifically one of my points than your constant rebellion only reveals doubts on you own issues.

I am not basing my reasoning only on my own words but I have quoted the two to four thousand year old words of prophets and apostles.

My spiritual foundations rest in THEIR words...

I have only taken their words and expanded and developed their allegories and parables into more concrete concepts.

For this you are taken back to think that someone actually is an active thinker and does not just simply digest the out in the world common religion without question.

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RexRed wrote:

Ros, what really in the last few pages have you had to positively contribute to this discussion of spirituality?

I'm happy to discuss things when there's a coherant exchange of ideas going on, but your posts are barely comprehensible, and I'm not the only one telling you that.

And to make matters worse, you want to treat this thread like a blog and just do a spew of consciousness. So don't try to accuse me of lack of positive contribution.

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rosborne979 wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Ros, what really in the last few pages have you had to positively contribute to this discussion of spirituality?

I'm happy to discuss things when there's a coherent exchange of ideas going on, but your posts are barely comprehensible, and I'm not the only one telling you that.

And to make matters worse, you want to treat this thread like a blog and just do a spew of consciousness. So don't try to accuse me of lack of positive contribution.

I will accuse you of a lack of positive contribution (lately). Yet my contribution is not always positive either. I admit.

I have always admired your contribution but you try me.

I am myself. Usually coherent sometimes not.

Less coherent than most but MUCH more learned spiritually. Maybe this is the reason why I seem so incoherent. Because I understand the inexplicable conundrums of this world. I am etherial and will never come down to earth. I am at home in the metaphysical and would rather disassociate myself from the world as I see it.

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Ro 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

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I ...would rather disassociate myself from the world as I see it.

That, clinicly speaking, is an admission of insanity.

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RexRed wrote:

I am myself. Usually coherent sometimes not.

I don't fault you for being yourself Rex, but don't get on my case if you can't do any better (and you haven't). Many people have told you that you're not making sense. You can take that or leave it, I don't care.

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Doktor S wrote:

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I ...would rather disassociate myself from the world as I see it.

That, clinicly speaking, is an admission of insanity.

Ac 26:17
Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,

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rosborne979 wrote:

RexRed wrote:
I am myself. Usually coherent sometimes not.

I don't fault you for being yourself Rex, but don't get on my case if you can't do any better (and you haven't). Many people have told you that you're not making sense. You can take that or leave it, I don't care.

I am handling a very foreign subject to most of you. The concepts that I try to impart are so advanced even to most theists. I am a person nearly alone in my field.

I am not aware when you do not understand a certain line of what I say. But I can relate back to when I used to learn the word of God.

I also studied around the word. But I was lucky, blessed, fortunate call it what you may. But I found a true teacher as opposed to a false one.

This teacher taught me to respect the written word and to read and memorize it. The word of God meant everything to this teacher. So it means everything to me. Because I did read it. And I studied it in the manner that this teacher taught me to. Yet when this teacher spoke I had to listen... This teacher would also record some of his teachings. I would listen to them and suddenly realize I was "swimming" and could not understand what he was saying. So I would re-listen and re-listen until it would suddenly click. It always would...

He taught me to track the words first to their original usage in the Bible NOT literature in general. NOT a bible dictionary not what some religion says about this word. But in contrast, to look at where each word is used previously IN THE BIBLE. This is logic this is reason and this is something that is missing from religion.

Science is missing from religion. We are still due for the Biblical renaissance

The dark ages took reason and tried to limit it. It was a time when writing, books, and art were suppressed by the church. Once the renaissance came suddenly books and learning returned to civilization. All books but one book. Art resurfaced and there were separate renaissances in each discipline.

The only renaissance that has not occurred yet is the renaissance of the Bible.

No, instead the Bible has been suppressed, abused, considered out of style and date and simply misunderstood.

Very few serious attempts have been made to understand it's mystique and intent.

This is hard wired into modern society.

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RexRed wrote:

I am handling a very foreign subject to most of you. The concepts that I try to impart are so advanced even to most theists. I am a person nearly alone in my field.

Yeh, those poor theists are outa their league trying to understand your stuff Rex. You're definitely out there. Smile

RexRed wrote:

No, instead the Bible has been suppressed, abused, considered out of style and date and simply misunderstood.

Very few serious attempts have been made to understand it's mystique and intent.

All those biblical scholars and priests throughout the ages, they weren't really serious, just twiddlin' around, whilin' away the time.

I hope you can set 'em straight Rex. You should write a long letter to Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell and all the other TV evangelists and try to explain it to them. You certainly can't make them any worse than they already are, and maybe if we're lucky they'll just lose their marbles trying to figure out what you're talkin about, and we won't hear from them again.

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rosborne979 wrote:

RexRed wrote:
I am handling a very foreign subject to most of you. The concepts that I try to impart are so advanced even to most theists. I am a person nearly alone in my field.

Yeh, those poor theists are outa their league trying to understand your stuff Rex. You're definitely out there.

RexRed wrote:
No, instead the Bible has been suppressed, abused, considered out of style and date and simply misunderstood.

Very few serious attempts have been made to understand it's mystique and intent.

All those biblical scholars and priests throughout the ages, they weren't really serious, just twiddlin' around, whilin' away the time.

I hope you can set 'em straight Rex. You should write a long letter to Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell and all the other TV evangelists and try to explain it to them. You certainly can't make them any worse than they already are, and maybe if we're lucky they'll just lose their marbles trying to figure out what you're talkin about, and we won't hear from them again.

The written word has only been in the hands of the common people for a few hundred years...

That is not a very long time for the world to be listening for angels.

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RexRed wrote:

. . . I would listen to them and suddenly realize I was "swimming" and could not understand what he was saying. So I would re-listen and re-listen until it would suddenly click. It always would...

First, I have to give you some credit, Rex. Despite the fact that no one seems to get what you're trying to say, you continue to participate in these discussions with a pretty high level of respect, and I'm sure everyone appreciates that.

I am very interested in what you have to say, and I ask questions of you to try to understand, not just to argue.

You stated that you would listen to your teacher's words (over and over) until it would suddenly click. I don't doubt that that's true, but if you are unable to effectively communicate to us what you learned (with logic and reason) then an intelligent person can only conclude that you really didn't learn anything (except maybe how to not value reason). I think Doktor S sort of suggested that to you, already. . .

Doktor S wrote:

RexRed wrote:
I ...would rather disassociate myself from the world as I see it.

That, clinicly speaking, is an admission of insanity.

To which you replied,

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Ac 26:17
Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,

What does that mean?? I don't mind Bible quotes, but without explanation it is meaningless.

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We are set apart from this world and then sent back to save it.

Eph 2:12
That at that time ye were without Christ, being a-l-i-e-n-s from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

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