echi you have in my estimation asked some very good questions.
Particularly how God can be both infinite and finite at the same time.
God is in all things in different ways.
Most people do not even distinguish between the spirit and soul they do not understand that soul is breath life, their reality is only to perceive the purely physical elemental human body aspect.
To think that we are made of non living matter (elements), living matter and spiritual matter (matter used loosely here) all all harmonizing within the same entity is eternity and the finite in unity as one.
Each part, body, soul and spirit are part of different realms
One is a elemental realm (body) the other is the living realm the other is the spiritual realm.
The elemental is the physical realm, the living is the intelligence realm and the spiritual is the all knowing realm
Yet they all are dependant upon one another for the soul to migrate into the eternal.
The elemental body will exist until the universe has passed. Living matter will pass with the universe. For even breath is made of elemental constructs in automation.
Yet the spiritual realm occupies both the physical realm and the living realm as spiritual law dictates.
The spiritual realm creates, the the living realm reproduces, and the physical realm divides.
The physical realm is fixed and isolated in space, the living is what envelopes and animates physical into different functions and organs.
The spiritual is what directs the many organisms of the universe into one consciousness.
The spiritual realm is what is both inside and outside of the universe.
The spirit is not fixed but everywhere even in empty space.
The spirit is the definition of empty space waiting to be filled (reunited) with life and the physical.
Since the physical is fixed and the soul is it's own sphere it is the spirit that permeates all things down into the marrow and the secret discerning of the heart.
Echi, you have to keep in mind that when Rex makes a statement, then it becomes self-evidently and self-referentially true.
That's why, a while ago, he gave you half a page of response which ended with "...but what was the question again?"
Thanks, Eorl. I'm stayin' in. I think I just about done got him. He is one slippery som'bitch.
RexRed,
I don't get it. Did/Does God create Nature?
You better start talking straight, or we're gonna have to go to multiple choice.
echi wrote
Why? Is it because their (anthropomorphic) god gets offended by certain words? And, if what they "know" is truly beyond words, then wouldn't all words be (more or less) arbitrary?
No..the "word" has been elevated to "magical status". Its mere utterance is a transcendent act like a hypnotist's trigger phrase...to "know" is to know a "state of grace" i.e. the nature of "the God trance".
I guess you have to ask Jesus to come into your heart, is that it?
What's the magic word?
echi wrote:RexRed,
I don't get it. Did/Does God create Nature?
You better start talking straight, or we're gonna have to go to multiple choice.
Yes, God created nature to be in balance with the spirit.
But then the (human) nature must never obscure the spirit.
Just as light freely travels when unobscured.
The nature of light is to travel and the nature of the spirit is to transcend the nature of the world.
RexRed wrote:
The spiritual realm creates, the the living realm reproduces, and the physical realm divides.
Comment:
I have put some thought into this...
Is this right?
It seems that cell division and reproduction are both life?
Cell division seems to be based upon (formed) pure magnetism though. reproduction is "made".
Reproduction also incorporates magnetism but on a greater more diverse scale, where the spirit reveals infinite diversity.
It just seems the physical representation would not be something that is not alive at all.
Yet the atomic models seem to be animate also.
Does a cell have a soul though?
echi,
You stopped asking your question so I must have answered it or completely distracted you.
RexRed wrote:RexRed wrote:
The spiritual realm creates, the the living realm reproduces, and the physical realm divides.
Comment:
I have put some thought into this...
Is this right?
It seems that cell division and reproduction are both life?
Cell division seems to be based upon (formed) pure magnetism though. reproduction is "made".
Reproduction also incorporates magnetism but on a greater more diverse scale, where the spirit reveals infinite diversity.
It just seems the physical representation would not be something that is not alive at all.
Yet the atomic models seem to be animate also.
Does a cell have a soul though?
A cell may appear to have life but does it have intelligence?
Does an atom have intelligence?
Is design intelligence? Or must intelligence be more than design alone?
I'll remind you of your question echi
Here is some sort of explanation...
If the spirit is creation itself than the spirit can create itself (or at least an image of itself)...
Is God aware of his existence?
echi wrote:Is God aware of his existence?
Yes, love is aware itself. God must be self aware so to be aware of all others.
God is awareness in all of it's forms.
God is even sexually aware...
RexRed wrote:God is even sexually aware...
Maybe you and god should get a room together.
