Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread III

snood wrote:

You promise never to darken the threads dedicated to any democratic players?

We have never failed to back off a "Democrat" thread when asked to do so. When the Democrat thread to mourn the loss of an election objected to our posting there we left. They invited us back and Tico opened this thread up for all who wished to actually discuss things instead of just showing up to spread their venom. Some simply are incapable of grasping that concept however.

Foxfyre wrote:

snood wrote:

You promise never to darken the threads dedicated to any democratic players?

We have never failed to back off a "Democrat" thread when asked to do so. When the Democrat thread to mourn the loss of an election objected to our posting there we left. They invited us back and Tico opened this thread up for all who wished to actually discuss things instead of just showing up to spread their venom. Some simply are incapable of grasping that concept however.

Foxfyre you seem to be casting about looking for a conflict. My post was obviously and pointedly directed as a single person about a single post of his, but you just can't seem to find a conflict that you don't think you're part of. So forgive me for not engaging you on this one, - but I wan't talking to you or about you.

Foxfyre wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

Evenmoreso Tico when somebody can write something like that and then, with presumably a straight face say that it is Tico or Foxfyre or even Ann Coulter who are "helping to make (our) country and the world uglier and more hateful."

Interestingly, Blatham is exactly right.

Tico and yourself like to remove yourself from your hateful attitudes by outsourcing them to posters such as Coulter - never mind the tacit agreement with her poisonous worldview implied by posting, it allows you to get your point across without incurring personal heat for opinions which are actually both insulting and idiotic at the same time.

His point about Christianity, and the hypocrisy of many who label themselves so on A2K, is also dead on.

Cycloptichorn

Pot - kettle. You and Blatham try to make yourself look more important and morally superior by seeking out and saying hateful things about other members and pretend that you're just being honest instead of crude and cruel. At least he has the guts to do it on his own while you sit back and pile on as little dogs always do. And neither of you gain respect from anybody but similar types when you do. Tico doesn't do that. Nor do I. And, if Ann Coulter is the epitome of viciousness and coarseness, then Noam Chomsky is the devil himself and Blatham thinks he is just wonderful. Again pot - kettle.

So, you admit that you are the pot? I don't see any defense of anything you were accused of here - just attacking others once you are attacked. Typical Republican answer.

I've never written a single thing on A2K to make myself look important or morally superior. Not once. I've never quoted Noam Chomsky (though I can say with some assurance that he couldn't be as hateful as Coulter if he tried).

This isn't the first time you've referred to me as a 'little dog,' but I'm not sure what that means, because - at least with reference to you - I've taken the initiative in pointing out your idiocy many times. I don't require the assistance of others to say what I feel about your particular brand of politics; the facts-don't-matter, anecdotal evidence explains everything, falsely moral superiority bullsh*t. We've all seen it done before, and better, by those whom you parrot on the far right. Just because Blatham and I happen to agree from time to time doesn't make either of us some sort of lackey of the other, just two posters who don't give a damn and will tell you what a fool you are to your face. As many times as neccessary until it sinks in to your head that your logic needs sharpening.

And the crazy thing is, I'm quite sure that you are a nice person. You just don't seem to be nice on teh internets. And you just can't stand it when someone points out logical flaws in your arguments, which is problematic because it happens to be nearly every argument you make.

Calling Blatham and I 'hateful' in reference to you and other Right-wingers here on A2K is the same sort of complete removal from reality that is displayed by those on the right on a regular basis when they refer to critics of the admin. as 'Bush-Haters' or 'America-haters.' We don't hate you at all, Fox. Just a deep sadness and pity.

Cycloptichorn

Foxfyre wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

Evenmoreso Tico when somebody can write something like that and then, with presumably a straight face say that it is Tico or Foxfyre or even Ann Coulter who are "helping to make (our) country and the world uglier and more hateful."

Interestingly, Blatham is exactly right.

Tico and yourself like to remove yourself from your hateful attitudes by outsourcing them to posters such as Coulter - never mind the tacit agreement with her poisonous worldview implied by posting, it allows you to get your point across without incurring personal heat for opinions which are actually both insulting and idiotic at the same time.

His point about Christianity, and the hypocrisy of many who label themselves so on A2K, is also dead on.

Cycloptichorn

Pot - kettle. You and Blatham try to make yourself look more important and morally superior by seeking out and saying hateful things about other members and pretend that you're just being honest instead of crude and cruel. At least he has the guts to do it on his own while you sit back and pile on as little dogs always do. And neither of you gain respect from anybody but similar types when you do. Tico doesn't do that. Nor do I. And, if Ann Coulter is the epitome of viciousness and coarseness, then Noam Chomsky is the devil himself and Blatham thinks he is just wonderful. Again pot - kettle.

So, you admit that you are the pot? I don't see any defense of anything you were accused of here - just attacking others once you are attacked. Typical Republican answer.

I've never written a single thing on A2K to make myself look important or morally superior. Not once. I've never quoted Noam Chomsky (though I can say with some assurance that he couldn't be as hateful as Coulter if he tried).

This isn't the first time you've referred to me as a 'little dog,' but I'm not sure what that means, because - at least with reference to you - I've taken the initiative in pointing out your idiocy many times. I don't require the assistance of others to say what I feel about your particular brand of politics; the facts-don't-matter, anecdotal evidence explains everything, falsely moral superiority bullsh*t. We've all seen it done before, and better, by those whom you parrot on the far right. Just because Blatham and I happen to agree from time to time doesn't make either of us some sort of lackey of the other, just two posters who don't give a damn and will tell you what a fool you are to your face. As many times as neccessary until it sinks in to your head that your logic needs sharpening.

And the crazy thing is, I'm quite sure that you are a nice person. You just don't seem to be nice on teh internets. And you just can't stand it when someone points out logical flaws in your arguments, which is problematic because it happens to be nearly every argument you make.

Calling Blatham and I 'hateful' in reference to you and other Right-wingers here on A2K is the same sort of complete removal from reality that is displayed by those on the right on a regular basis when they refer to critics of the admin. as 'Bush-Haters' or 'America-haters.' We don't hate you at all, Fox. Just a deep sadness and pity.

Cycloptichorn

Could the liberals on A2K please not pollute this thread into an anti-Bush thread? I'd prefer not having to weed through the garbage to read a post in a thread topic I am interested in.

This is a BUSH SUPPORTER thread. If you do not support Bush, please feel free not to read or post here.

All due respect, this thread most certainly has outlived its original purpose, which was itself a reaction to a long forgotten thread in which some of us asked for (and received) a few days respite from salt rubbing after the election. The election is more than two years passed now, and this thread is just like any other. Any claims that it is somehow special or different from any other thread on the board is useless. Just as with the thread's counterpart, it is unreasonable to expect to have a long term place to indulge in unchallenged and uninterrupted ideological masturbation on a public board.

Now, it has been noted that the targets of blatham's remarks are insulted. Stinging as his comments may be, it seems to me that he has a point. Although it would not be fair to assume that someone's expressions on a public message board constitute a full and complete image of their personal values, the appearance of tacit support for the kinds of things that Coulter espouses can lead others to think a poster lacks a certain moral fiber.

This is the Bush Supporters Aftermath III thread. A continuation of one started in response to the Weeping and Gnashing of Teeth thread. It is wide open and not exclusive, no matter what your first post says. Everyone respected the requests at the beginning of both of those threads out of respect and kindness for each other after the election. I am grateful to Tico and everyone for that and I think it was reciprocated at the time. But that time is passed. For what reason do you think you need a private thread to talk about Bush?

FreeDuck wrote:

All due respect, this thread most certainly has outlived its original purpose, which was itself a reaction to a long forgotten thread in which some of us asked for (and received) a few days respite from salt rubbing after the election. The election is more than two years passed now, and this thread is just like any other. Any claims that it is somehow special or different from any other thread on the board is useless. Just as with the thread's counterpart, it is unreasonable to expect to have a long term place to indulge in unchallenged and uninterrupted ideological masturbation on a public board.

Now, it has been noted that the targets of blatham's remarks are insulted. Stinging as his comments may be, it seems to me that he has a point. Although it would not be fair to assume that someone's expressions on a public message board constitute a full and complete image of their personal values, the appearance of tacit support for the kinds of things that Coulter espouses can lead others to think a poster lacks a certain moral fiber.

And yet those who post items far more cutting, obscene, or disgusting and do so without any pretense of humor are given a pass because they are attacking somebody or something you think should be attacked.

Who are you or Blatham or anybody to judge Tico or anybody who appreciates Ann Coulter's humor? Do you ever watch violent television for entertainment? Does that make you an advocate of violence? Do you never laugh at an off color joke? Does that make you vulgar? Are you as critical of and quick to object to your Leftie friends who post cartoons most people find offensive?

If you think this thread has outlived its usefulness, why do you keep coming in here? Why do you post here? Who are you to say what is useful to others?

Shall we announce that because you think somebody else is right about something that you are exactly like that person? Because you acknowledge that he or she is right you are as hateful and judgmental and morally hypocritical as he or she is? That is what you imply when you suggest that Tico's (or anybody else's) appreciation of an Ann Coulter column is therefore approval of everything Coulter writes.

I was raised to believe that those who go out of their way to be sanctimoniously judgmental and presume moral superiority over others are usually the ones who are most guilty of the sins they denounce.

I have never looked at you that way Freeduck and don't believe you are guilty of it. Please don't betray my trust in you.

FreeDuck wrote:

This is the Bush Supporters Aftermath III thread. A continuation of one started in response to the Weeping and Gnashing of Teeth thread. It is wide open and not exclusive, no matter what your first post says. Everyone respected the requests at the beginning of both of those threads out of respect and kindness for each other after the election. I am grateful to Tico and everyone for that and I think it was reciprocated at the time. But that time is passed. For what reason do you think you need a private thread to talk about Bush?

This is not a "private thread" any more than the original was. And how many times do we have to have this damn discussion? If you come to this thread with the sole purpose of stirring the turd and to cause trouble, you are spamming the thread, and displaying an incredible lack of class. And blatham is the goddamn worst at doing it. If that isn't hateful, I don't know what is. The hypocrisy of some of you leftists is downright amazing!

And yet those who post items far more cutting, obscene, or disgusting and do so without any pretense of humor are given a pass because they are attacking somebody or something you think should be attacked.

Who are you or Blatham or anybody to judge Tico or anybody who appreciates Ann Coulter's humor? Do you ever watch violent television for entertainment? Does that make you an advocate of violence? Do you never laugh at an off color joke? Does that make you vulgar? Are you as critical of and quick to object to your Leftie friends who post cartoons most people find offensive?

If you think this thread has outlived its usefulness, why do you keep coming in here? Why do you post here? Who are you to say what is useful to others?

Shall we announce that because you think somebody else is right about something that you are exactly like that person? Because you acknowledge that he or she is right you are as hateful and judgmental and morally hypocritical as he or she is? That is what you imply when you suggest that Tico's (or anybody else's) appreciation of an Ann Coulter column is therefore approval of everything Coulter writes.

I was raised to believe that those who go out of their way to be sanctimoniously judgmental and presume moral superiority over others are usually the ones who are most guilty of the sins they denounce.

I have never looked at you that way Freeduck and don't believe you are guilty of it. Please don't betray my trust in you.

Ticomaya wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:

This is the Bush Supporters Aftermath III thread. A continuation of one started in response to the Weeping and Gnashing of Teeth thread. It is wide open and not exclusive, no matter what your first post says. Everyone respected the requests at the beginning of both of those threads out of respect and kindness for each other after the election. I am grateful to Tico and everyone for that and I think it was reciprocated at the time. But that time is passed. For what reason do you think you need a private thread to talk about Bush?

This is not a "private thread" any more than the original was. And how many times do we have to have this damn discussion? If you come to this thread with the sole purpose of stirring the turd and to cause trouble, you are spamming the thread, and displaying an incredible lack of class. And blatham is the goddamn worst at doing it. If that isn't hateful, I don't know what is. The hypocrisy of some of you leftists is downright amazing!

Looks like it's time for another nap Tico.

This is not a "private thread" any more than the original was. And how many times do we have to have this damn discussion?

I'm just stating the facts, and the facts are that blatham's post insulted you and Tico and neither of you are happy about that. But his insult hasn't really been countered except by echos of "get out".

dyslexia wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:

This is the Bush Supporters Aftermath III thread. A continuation of one started in response to the Weeping and Gnashing of Teeth thread. It is wide open and not exclusive, no matter what your first post says. Everyone respected the requests at the beginning of both of those threads out of respect and kindness for each other after the election. I am grateful to Tico and everyone for that and I think it was reciprocated at the time. But that time is passed. For what reason do you think you need a private thread to talk about Bush?

This is not a "private thread" any more than the original was. And how many times do we have to have this damn discussion? If you come to this thread with the sole purpose of stirring the turd and to cause trouble, you are spamming the thread, and displaying an incredible lack of class. And blatham is the goddamn worst at doing it. If that isn't hateful, I don't know what is. The hypocrisy of some of you leftists is downright amazing!

Looks like it's time for another nap Tico.

You're becoming more troll-like every day. Or maybe I'm just noticing it ...

Ticomaya wrote:

This is not a "private thread" any more than the original was. And how many times do we have to have this damn discussion?

As many times as it takes for people to figure out that spamming a thread is not the same thing as persistently posting challenges and uncomfortable accusations. Every time blatham or someone else pushes someone too far from their comfort zone there is a massive outcry about how this is a thread for Bush supporters and everyone else should just stay out.

FreeDuck wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

This is not a "private thread" any more than the original was. And how many times do we have to have this damn discussion?

As many times as it takes for people to figure out that spamming a thread is not the same thing as persistently posting challenges and uncomfortable accusations. Every time blatham or someone else pushes someone too far from their comfort zone there is a massive outcry about how this is a thread for Bush supporters and everyone else should just stay out.

Bull$hit, FD. We're not talking about leftists who come to this thread and post "challenges." We're talking about the specific posts of blatham, et al., the sole purpose of which is to harrass and annoy Bush supporters.