Foxfyre wrote:revel wrote:Foxfyre wrote:revel wrote:Nice try foxfrye, now try actually refuting what he said.
Refute a 'silk purse out of a sow's ear' line? You've got to be kidding.
Foxfyre, I am just going to assume you are having an off day and leave it at that.
Well seriously. You quote the thing about the sow's ear and provide a link for its source and then ask me to refute that? So who's having an off day here?
If you hadn't invoked Clinton's name though I probably wouldn't have popped off. The bruhaha over that Wallace interview is so off the wall that there is no way to even discuss it coherently. Clinton in no way looked or sounded like a statesman--and him slurring his words through the interview does give some questions about whether he was operating impaired. But the pundits are already challenging the truth of many of his statements and the GOP will make more of it than it warrants and the Democrats will try to put a better spin on it than it warrants.
And in the end we are left with sow's ears and silk purses and there realy is nothing to refute regarding that.
FYI
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2280307#2280307
Quote:About certain claims by MM concerning the cole and others, Clinton answers them in his interview with Wallace. Here is the full interview. Wow.
Not that I think it is going to help anything, in my opinion, if we manage to get a few seats to even things up a little, we will be lucky. As this guy said about the dems,
Quote:
"Never underestimate the Republicans' ability to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, and never underestimate the Democrats' ability to make a sow's ear out of a silk purse," he said.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/15599775.htm
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2280766#2280766
Quote:Oh well gee, if Clinton used an opportunity to slur the Republicans/right wing then it certainly must be true. He certainly has never been known to lie about anything.
(Explanation for the cognitively impaired: this is sarcasm.)
The reason I left a link for the Clinton/wallace interview was to refute some of the charges MM made.
Which btw-your right, the conservative blogs have begun to try and refute the facts Clinton laid out, but as usual they are wrong.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/fact-sheet-clinton/
The line about the silk purse out of a sow's ear was from Dennis Goldford, a political science professor at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. I inserted the quote to stress on the reason I believe that democrats will probably not pick enough seats to over take either the house or the senate which even a conservative political annalist agreed with.
I was not asking you to refute the quote of Dennis Goldford simply because I understood from your post (which is quoted in full above) you were talking about the Clinton interview since you typed in his name.
However after you said you were not going to refute the line about the sows ear, I just assumed you were having an off day and got all confused and so let it go because frankly I felt the whole thing was just getting silly and it still is, so never mind about the Clinton stuff, there is a thread devoted just for the interview.
Goldford does have a point about republicans making a silk purse out of a sow's ear and democrats making a sow's ear out of a silk purse.
There has been so much evidence to suggest that the Bush administration whole reason for going to war with Iraq to make America safer is just full of holes, but the chances of democrats profiting from that fact and dismissing the myth that democrats are soft on security is not very good if the past five years have been anything to go by. Because for years the Bush rhetoric has not lived up to reality yet still most Americans still think they are better at security than democrats.