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ABC Team spreads 9/11 misinformation to students

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 12 Sep, 2006 02:18 pm
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Which brings the question: why are the wadded up panties over this mostly worn by the Democrats?


Because, it was a fictional movie billed as the 'official true story'; because it was bankrolled by a Fundamentalist Christian organization and written by a conservative; because it had inaccuracies which portrayed former cabinet members in a poor light; because it was sent out for review to right-wing writers, bloggers, and pundits, but not left-wing ones.

You may believe that the movie was equally critical of both administrations, but the production and marketing of this movie was solidly to the right-wing.

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 12 Sep, 2006 02:23 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
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Which brings the question: why are the wadded up panties over this mostly worn by the Democrats?


Because, it was a fictional movie billed as the 'official true story'; because it was bankrolled by a Fundamentalist Christian organization and written by a conservative; because it had inaccuracies which portrayed former cabinet members in a poor light; because it was sent out for review to right-wing writers, bloggers, and pundits, but not left-wing ones.

You may believe that the movie was equally critical of both administrations, but the production and marketing of this movie was solidly to the right-wing.

Cycloptichorn


Are you sure about that?

I did not watch any of it, but from what I read ABC clearly protrayed this as a DOCUDRAMA and stated some parts were fictionalized.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 12 Sep, 2006 02:26 pm
ABC's world-wide advertising for the movie billed it as the 'official true story' of what happened on 9/11.

See for yourself

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aHgbeJu1WGk

Cycloptichorn
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 12 Sep, 2006 07:03 pm
Basic reality is that the one scene which the rats are most incensed over is a filmmaker's attempt to compress ten or twelves situations in which KKKlinton and his perv pals let binLaden walk into one scene.

KKKlinton and others in his administration are basically ten or twelve times as guilty as the miniseries made them out to be. They didn't have the forty to a hundred hours it would have taken to show the true guilt of the ****ers.
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 12 Sep, 2006 08:31 pm
timberlandko wrote:
revel wrote:
so, path to 9/11 beat out the simpsons ...

Apart from the NFL game, Path outpulled EVERYTHING both nights running. Its worth noting little if anything on US television EVER outdraws a well-hyped, live, evening prime time major sporting event. Worth noting as well is that the story was no more flattering to the Bush administration's role in the debacle than it was to the Clinton administration's role, with fact-stretching dramatizations present in both episodes, concerning the people and actions of both administrations; the point made was that the ball was dropped all around. Which brings the question: why are the wadded up panties over this mostly worn by the Democrats?


The show didn't have to be flattering to either bush or clinton, just truthful and it wasn't.

Part two of ABC's 9-11 "docudrama" contained falsified scenes bolstering Bush
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 12 Sep, 2006 09:08 pm
revel wrote:

The show didn't have to be flattering to either bush or clinton, just truthful and it wasn't.


AS I note above, the ONLY way in which the thing was fictitious was in collapsing ten or twelve instances of KKKlintonista treason into one for the sake of time.

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revel
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 06:19 am
Gunga, there has been plenty of links offered to show evidence of how the docudrama was a work of right wing fiction and basically nothing has been offered which refutes that evidence. Enough has been said.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 07:33 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
ABC's world-wide advertising for the movie billed it as the 'official true story' of what happened on 9/11.

See for yourself

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aHgbeJu1WGk

Cycloptichorn


The they certainly back-tracked at ABC and they should be criticized for that ad.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 09:40 am
revel wrote:
Gunga, there has been plenty of links offered to show evidence of how the docudrama was a work of right wing fiction and basically nothing has been offered which refutes that evidence. Enough has been said.


All of those newspaper stories about Sandy Burgler walking out of archives with secret documents stuffed into his socks and jockstrap while the 9/11 commisison was in session were just a figment of our imaginations then?

How long did you think these KKKlintonistas were going to be above the law and that nobody was ever going to be allowed to talk about it?

Do you have any idea what would happen to you or me were either of us to get caught walking out of archives with top secret documents which were germaine to an ongoing congressional investigation??

I mean, it's not like they'd throw away the key. There wouldn't BE a key, they'd WELD the bars shut.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 09:46 am
revel wrote:
Gunga, there has been plenty of links offered to show evidence of how the docudrama was a work of right wing fiction and basically nothing has been offered which refutes that evidence. Enough has been said.


revel, you are wasting your breath or bytes rather.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 10:01 am
woiyo wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
ABC's world-wide advertising for the movie billed it as the 'official true story' of what happened on 9/11.

See for yourself

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aHgbeJu1WGk

Cycloptichorn


The they certainly back-tracked at ABC and they should be criticized for that ad.


This is why I was just telling someone the other day that you were an even-handed and valuable poster here.... thanks

Cycloptichorn
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 01:20 pm
gungasnake wrote:
revel wrote:
Gunga, there has been plenty of links offered to show evidence of how the docudrama was a work of right wing fiction and basically nothing has been offered which refutes that evidence. Enough has been said.


All of those newspaper stories about Sandy Burgler walking out of archives with secret documents stuffed into his socks and jockstrap while the 9/11 commission was in session were just a figment of our imaginations then?

How long did you think these KKKlintonistas were going to be above the law and that nobody was ever going to be allowed to talk about it?

Do you have any idea what would happen to you or me were either of us to get caught walking out of archives with top secret documents which were germaine to an ongoing congressional investigation??

I mean, it's not like they'd throw away the key. There wouldn't BE a key, they'd WELD the bars shut.


Sandy Berger admitted to taking the papers; he answered the questions with the Justice department. Evidently they must have been satisfied as no charges have been filed that I am aware of. The papers still missing concerned after action reports during the 1999 millennium celebration. The papers which sandy berger took don't have anything to do with the parts in the docudrama path to 9/11 which were false or misleading.

The movie just made up stuff and that is all there is to it.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39535
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 10:22 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701121/posts

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"I have heard from other CIA people that there was as many as a dozen incidents, missions, etc. where the will was not there to green-light the operation. And everybody was in place, whether it was a missile attack, a bomb run, an ambush of bin Laden by tribals on the ground, or that they had pinpointed him at Tarnak Farm or his hunting lodge.

There were numerous opportunities. We only focused on one. We used it as sort of an amalgamation of the numerous different opportunities because you can't show a dozen attempts in a movie; and I don't think a lot of people would have been happy if we did that either...."

CYRUS NOWRASTEH
'THE PATH TO 9/11' WRITER, PRODUCER
THE SEAN HANNITY SHOW, SEPT. 8, 2006


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9/11 Commission: Clinton Refused to Let CIA Kill Bin Laden

Announcing some of its preliminary findings on Wednesday, the 9/11 Commission has confirmed that President Clinton ordered the CIA to take Osama bin Laden alive or not at all - a directive that made the task of neutralizing the terrorist kingpin infinitely more difficult.

In a statement read at the beginning of Wednesday's session, 9/11 staffer Michael Hurley revealed:

"CIA senior managers, operators and lawyers uniformly said that they read the relevant authorities signed by President Clinton as instructing them to try to capture bin Laden.

"They believed that the only acceptable context for killing bin Laden was a credible capture operation. 'We always talked about how much easier it would have been to try to kill him,'" a former chief of the bin Laden station told the Commission.

"Working level CIA officers were frustrated by what they saw as the policy restraints of having to instruct their assets to mount a capture operation," the Commission statement said.

Commission staffer Hurley detailed one attempt to recruit indigenous Afghan forces in a bin Laden capture operation, explaining, "When Northern Alliance leader Massoud was briefed on the carefully worded instructions for him, the briefer recalled that Massoud laughed and said, 'You Americans are crazy. You guys never change.'"

... Last week NBC News quoted former CIA official Gary Schroen as saying that White House orders to spare bin Laden's life cut the chances of getting him in half, from 50 to 25 percent.

Schroen's revelation - now confirmed by the 9/11 Commission - was ignored by the mainstream press beyond its initial coverage by NBC.

NewsMax.com
Wednesday, Mar. 24, 2004 10:26 AM EST

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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 10:24 pm
Basic reality: Slick KKKlinton woke up every morning for eight years and said "Thank you, Lord (Satan to him), for giving me another eighteen waking hours within which to **** over the United States.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 02:47 am
gungasnake wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701121/posts

Quote:

"I have heard from other CIA people that there was as many as a dozen incidents, missions, etc. where the will was not there to green-light the operation. And everybody was in place, whether it was a missile attack, a bomb run, an ambush of bin Laden by tribals on the ground, or that they had pinpointed him at Tarnak Farm or his hunting lodge.

There were numerous opportunities. We only focused on one. We used it as sort of an amalgamation of the numerous different opportunities because you can't show a dozen attempts in a movie; and I don't think a lot of people would have been happy if we did that either...."

CYRUS NOWRASTEH
'THE PATH TO 9/11' WRITER, PRODUCER
THE SEAN HANNITY SHOW, SEPT. 8, 2006


Quote:


9/11 Commission: Clinton Refused to Let CIA Kill Bin Laden

Announcing some of its preliminary findings on Wednesday, the 9/11 Commission has confirmed that President Clinton ordered the CIA to take Osama bin Laden alive or not at all - a directive that made the task of neutralizing the terrorist kingpin infinitely more difficult.

In a statement read at the beginning of Wednesday's session, 9/11 staffer Michael Hurley revealed:

"CIA senior managers, operators and lawyers uniformly said that they read the relevant authorities signed by President Clinton as instructing them to try to capture bin Laden.

"They believed that the only acceptable context for killing bin Laden was a credible capture operation. 'We always talked about how much easier it would have been to try to kill him,'" a former chief of the bin Laden station told the Commission.

"Working level CIA officers were frustrated by what they saw as the policy restraints of having to instruct their assets to mount a capture operation," the Commission statement said.

Commission staffer Hurley detailed one attempt to recruit indigenous Afghan forces in a bin Laden capture operation, explaining, "When Northern Alliance leader Massoud was briefed on the carefully worded instructions for him, the briefer recalled that Massoud laughed and said, 'You Americans are crazy. You guys never change.'"

... Last week NBC News quoted former CIA official Gary Schroen as saying that White House orders to spare bin Laden's life cut the chances of getting him in half, from 50 to 25 percent.

Schroen's revelation - now confirmed by the 9/11 Commission - was ignored by the mainstream press beyond its initial coverage by NBC.

NewsMax.com
Wednesday, Mar. 24, 2004 10:26 AM EST



Now try reading the 9/11 Commission Report and see if either of the above quotes jibes with it's findings. You remember, the findings that the 'docu-drama' was supposedly based on.

Joe(some people just cannot help themselves)Nation
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 04:47 am
Joe

You gotta be kidding. You're asking this guy to go to primary documents?! Brownshirts don't do primary documents. They do Guns 'n Guts, freerepublic, the Protocols of the Elders of Arkansas Newsletter, and, when the 7-11 is well-stocked, Latino Lesbians in Leather.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 06:50 am
From the report

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In February 1999,Tenet sought President Clinton's authorization to enlist
Massoud and his forces as partners. In response to this request, the President signed the Memorandum of Notification whose language he personally altered.Tenet says he saw no significance in the President's changes. So far as he was concerned, it was the language of August 1998, expressing a preference for capture but accepting the possibility that Bin Ladin could not be brought out alive."We were plowing the same ground,"Tenet said.171

CIA officers described Massoud's reaction when he heard that the United States wanted him to capture and not kill Bin Ladin. One characterized Massoud's body language as "a wince."

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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 06:52 am
Basic reality: Slick KKKlinton woke up every morning for eight years and said "Thank you, Lord (Satan to him), for giving me another eighteen waking hours within which to **** over the United States."
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 07:03 am
gunga=basic reality;
bizarre.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 08:16 am
Another basic reality: Ordering somebody to try to take Bin Laden alive is like ordering somebody to crawl into a narrow cave after a cobra with a knife in their hand and try to bring the cobra back out alive.

The mere fact that somebody would issue such an order indicates the sort of vast ignorance of reality which arises from viewing the presidency as the world's grandest opportunity to get one's little weenie sucked off by little pigs like Monica Lewinsky, while affairs of state lie untended.

In fact, they say that Monica was a sort of a ringer, i.e. that she had zero credentials or aptitudes for being a whitehouse intern and every sort of credential and aptitude for being a whore, and had been brought in by democrats who understood the problem to take heat off and protect the real interns.

That was the basic contribution which the de-mokkker-rat party made to protecting our country.
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