Neo wrote:
Quote:What is it about the word abstain that implies a prohibition only against eating? And if doctors and lawyers are unable to define the essence of blood, why do you insist I provide the answer?
Neo. I'm speechless and dumbfounded!
Is it Jehovah, the Watchtower's doctrines, doctors or lawyers you have to obey mostly as stated in Acts 5:27-32? Jeremiah 7:31 and Leviticus 17:15! Don't you think you have a personal responsibility? Galathians 6:5!
It is really good to hear, in the following quotation. What does it mean for you and what do you suppose it means, to be a Witness of Jehovah? Wasn't Abel, Noah, Abraham and the other men of faith, Witness of Jehovah long time before the Watchtower Society was founded?
Quote: You say you are not asking me to leave my religion. Obviously you don't understand what it means to me to be a Witness of Jehovah.
Again Neo, who have asked you to leave Jehovah or even your religion? If you feel comfortable attending the meetings, it's your personal choice, but spreading the Watchtowers un scriptual doctrines and harming yourself, your wife, children and others, as you Friend Setanta stated, should have been illegally and never ever have been allowed, but the fact is, due to misinterpretation of the UN Chapter from 1948, that it is, but religious freedom, shall not be absolutely, even not for people in The Governing Body of the Watchtower Society, Christian Sience or all others, when it comes to life or deat decission.
Tele is very hard and solely focusing at the blood issue, me too, but I go further to make people thinking of what's going on in an Organisation who claims to be Jehovah's chosen channel, claims to speak and be a servant for Jesus Christ. It's my sincerely hope to get people out of their mind control and indoctrination processes, by doing the thinking themselves and hopefully be able to sort out, via reading the Bible and look at the creation, what has its origin from Jehovah, rather than men and their wickered doctrine and nonsens.
Quote:I have made a studied decision to follow the teachings of the Watchtower Society whether I understand them completely or not. If, on rare occasion, I don't understand well enough to teach, (It hasn't happened yet.)I defer to one more able.
The Bible is warning us and giving us good recommendations in Psalm 146:3-10! Furthermore Jesus warned his disciples for the Scribes and Pharisees leaven. Matthew 16:5-12! Are you really listening to your Bible and what the head of our Christian belief are going to tell us all? Or do you blindly follow their flippering doctrines at all times? you can even rad the warnings in Collosians 2:8-23!
You have followed their doctrines blindly, in question of the blood and you aren't late to: "Defere to one more able" which maybe or for sure, blindly are following the Watchtowers blood doctrine!
You furthermore blindly make statements in public, here at internet, where people are going to se what you write and suppose if they maybe will follow your statements, thoughts and recommendations!
Have you ever thought of that you can be held responsible, if someone dies because of your advice or your cooperation in gathering people together, which can and often leads to a premature death, like the assistants of Jim Jones, in question of the Watchtowers blood doctrine?
Quote:Were I to disclaim any doctrine that might lead to expulsion from the congregation, then by default I would no longer be able to consider myself a Witness. I would have left the frying pan, so to speak. So the question of where I might go would then be paramount. (Keep in mind that I continued attending meetings faithfully the entire time when I was disfellowshipped.)
Neo I'm still speechless and dumbfounded!
You were informed here, in this forum, what has been or is going on about the procedures, inside the watchtower Society. In spite of the provided information, you denied it, which simply confirm their totally control over your thinking, which is called Mind Control and indoctrination.
With your last quotation, you are now also confirming that it is fear of sanctions and not to misplease God and you are willing to, like my family brother, blindly to follow the Watchtower changing doctrines, even after you have been aware of that they are wrong, but as you state: "Were I to disclaim any doctrine that might lead to expulsion from the congregation, then by default I would no longer be able to consider myself a Witness".
Would you also have been following the Watchtower doctrines if they have teach, that it was the will of God to kill all people who wasn't members of The Society, if somebody haven't had the power to stop them, like all the Catholic, protestants and not to forget people supporting Hitler and those in the concentration camps, which didn't listen to their conscience, but blindly follow orders, because they was convinced of the political ideas and/or afraid to get killed themselves, like The Watchtower treat you with, even it isn't physically, but by their teachings, that you will be destroyed in Armageddon, if you don't blindly follow their doctrines and is a member of the Society?
I like to guide your attention again to what comes forth in the Bible and since you call yourselves a Christian and properly don't belong to the Christendom, where many only use it as an label, without actions, by not following the head of the Christian belief, Jesus Christ example and teachings:
John 14.
14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also:
14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
1 of John.
14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Neo whom do you obey, Good or men, when you are following and spreading the Watchtowers or anydody else doctrines which don't has its origin from Jehovah?
Acts 5:
5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
So Neo who are you going to listen to and obey, Jehovah or a son of a man, in whome there is no salvation and who are you going to follow, Jesus Christ examples or the Watchtower Society's changing doctrines.
Will you continue to spread the Watchtower unbiblical and sientific wrong doctrines and when you are not able to teach them yourself, then yoke people and you friends together with members of the Society, who also blindly believe and follow the doctrines and distribuate and teach others them? You make the decission but is responsible.
Jehovah looks also at your heart Neo and I personally think that time has come for you, to be asusre of everything, opposite following a mans son and other members of the Watchtower Soiciety, who is willing to sacrifie themselves and their belowed ones at the Society's alter!!!
If you like to attend the meetings, among others for sociel reasons, it's totally up to yourself, but you will never ever be able to make any excuse against Jehovah, due to and what the Watchtower Society have convienced you to think and make of decissions, you are personally responsible to do the thinking yourself and can't hang your hat of whatsoever broder or sister Joe or Jane belives an convince you about and when it comes to the final proof, do not try to excuse your acts like Adam, it was the woman you gave me...., by blaming others!
NB. If the Muslims haven't been mislead by their Imams and others of their religious leaders. They would have been reading the Quran rather than recitating it and been listening to what comes forth in Almaida, The Table, Surra 5:48, depending on which language and version of the Quran they use, where it comes forth:
"If you don't make your judgements after what have been sent down before him, Tewrat, The Mosaic law, Zebur, the small profets and Ingels, the Gospels (whether they interpret or assume that it is Jesus or Muhammad) its stated in the Quran, you will belong to the ungodly, and even worser than the djinns, which are the demons!"
So you see here that and if we do not make our judgement from the Bible, which is what have been sent before Muhammad, we are not in harmony with God!
That's why I'm questioning, why all religions shall have their own law books, the Catholics, the catechism, the Muslims the Sharia and the Watchtower Kingdom Service etc. etc.. when we have our Bibles!
Te Bible is all we need to make Judgements and to be in harmony with God and follow in the footsteps of Jesus Christ, since he was the largest profet, able to make miracles with it origin from God!
The Watchtower Society have furthermore replaced the Bible with The Watchtower Magazine and many of their other publications.
At last, that's why I recommend all to read their Bible, instead of listen and been following a mans son and his doctrines, in whom there is no salvation, rather than Jehovah and Jesus commandments and examples.