Why the Left Is Furious at Lieberman; Iraq is only a part

dyslexia wrote:

interesting, do you have a source for that quote?

Try this one...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34167-2004Oct14.html

or this one

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/edwards.stem.cell/

or this one

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?955eb88c-02f6-4f54-9c9b-51f83adc7ba9

or this one

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008675

or this one

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1290314.html

Those are just a few examples of John Edwards making the claim.
There are more,but I think you can find them yourself if you want.

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dyslexia wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
interesting, do you have a source for that quote?

It's John Edwards.

F.U. I was looking for the context of the original quote, I found lots of references to the quote but not the full quote itself. Always advancing information Tico or just being Tico?

No, just being jocular.

Laughing

You passing a stone, or just being dys?

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You know Tico, i did not refute nor deny that Edwards made the statement but, as you well know, snippets of statements can be misrepresented (Goerge W Bush as an examle) I googled the quote and found many reverences to that quote but none actually showed the full statement, just the same snippet that was posted above. Excuse me for wanting to clarify my understanding.

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dyslexia wrote:

You know Tico, i did not refute nor deny that Edwards made the statement but, as you well know, snippets of statements can be misrepresented (Goerge W Bush as an examle) I googled the quote and found many reverences to that quote but none actually showed the full statement, just the same snippet that was posted above. Excuse me for wanting to clarify my understanding.

Why are you telling me this? I don't begrudge you one bit for wanting clarification and context.

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right

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Lamont vs Lieberman might become a closer race than you'd think:

Taegan Goddard's Political Wire wrote:

In Connecticut, First Post-Primary Poll Shows Tight Race

Rasmussen Reports began polling the Ned Lamont-Joe Lieberman general election match-up last night. After 375 interviews, preliminary numbers show Lieberman ahead of Lamont by 3 percentage points. Republican candidate Alan Schlesinger is a non-factor in the single digits.

The last Rasmussen survey of a three way general election found Lamont and Lieberman tied at 40% with Schlesinger at 13%. It appears Lieberman is gaining ground primarily among GOP voters.

Rasmussen will be back in the field tonight to complete the survey and hopes to post final data on their website before midnight.

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dyslexia wrote:

right

Try drinking more water. :wink:

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Mysteryman:

Christopher Reeve died Oct 10, 2004-the day before Edwards made that statement. That is why Edwards said that America had just LOST a champion for spinal cord injuries-that champion was of course Reeve. That is also why Edwards said that people like the just departed Reeve would walk again if stem cell research was Federally funded.

Precisely how you interpret that to mean that Reeve HIMSELF would get cured by stem cell research is unclear. Please explain.

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And speaking of things which need explanation....

Charles Krauthammer, as quoted by Mysteryman wrote:

This is John Edwards on Monday at a rally in Newton, Iowa: "If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."

In my 25 years in Washington, I have never seen a more loathsome display of demagoguery.

Somebody ought to tell Krauthammer that Christopher Reeve was very vocal during his life in supporting stem cell research as a possible cure for spinal injuries. Edwards didn't do anything but follow in the same path which Reeve himself set.

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Charles Krauthammer is in a wheelchair, too.

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I'm sorry to hear that. I've seen Krauthammer on TV, not in the studio but up on the screen brought by remote camera, and the wheelchair was not evident in those shots.

Nonetheless, Chris Reeve did tout stem cell research because HE felt it could lead to a cure, so I don't think Edwards was out of line using Chris Reeve's death as an example to show why stem cell research is urgent.

Krauthammer complains about people talking about cures, but Chris Reeve himself got up on the stage during the 1996 Democratic convention and passionately spoke in favor of research to find a cure, and that he intends to walk again someday.

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Keltic Wizard who appears not to know critical points he should know before he writes apparently does not know that:

quote Krauthammer

Edwards and Kerry constantly talk of a Bush "ban" on stem cell research. This is false. There is no ban. You want to study stem cells? You get them from the companies that have the cells and apply to the National Institutes of Health for the federal funding.

End of quote

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I would suggest that Mr. Nimh get another look at the polling on the Leiberman --Lamont Race. I think that Leiberman will be far ahead after the public digests the attempt by the Islamo-fascist murderers to down commercial airliners.

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BernardR wrote:

I would suggest that Mr. Nimh get another look at the polling on the Leiberman --Lamont Race. I think that Leiberman will be far ahead after the public digests the attempt by the Islamo-fascist murderers to down commercial airliners.

Well, that might or might not turn out to come true; but at the moment (or at least as of last night, when I wrote my post), this poll was the only one available since the primary outcome. When there are more, I will definitely take another look; as it is, I was just reporting what was already out there.

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Quote:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1224552,00.html

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georgeob1 wrote:

It is likely the Democrats will take control of at least one of the houses of Congress this fall (and possibly both). How that may play out over the next two years as we approach the next presidential election is far less clear.

I don't think it's 'likely' in terms of the Senate. Impossible? No. Probable? No.

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Joe Lieberman Will Drop Out.
Joe Lieberman Will Drop Out.
by Lawrence O'Donnell
8/11/06

Joe Lieberman will drop out. He probably knows right now that the day will come in late September when he will announce his withdrawal from the race. No one is going to have to talk him into it. By that time, the Democratic Party power structure will be doing its thing for Ned Lamont and Lieberman will be trailing by double digits.

It won't be a hard decision for Lieberman. He will drop out to avoid career-ending humiliation.

Lieberman came within four points of Lamont by climbing up on the shoulders of the biggest names in the party including Clinton--Bill and Hillary. Lieberman's TV commercial starring Bill Clinton was his best. Now, both Clintons and everyone else in the Party are carrying Lamont on their shoulders. By late September, Bill Clinton will be onstage hugging his new best friend and starring in Lamont commercials. Connecticut's much better liked senator, Chris Dodd, will be campaigning for Lamont this time. The Clinton and Dodd defections will cost Lieberman ten points in Connecticut. If Dick Cheney continues to say nice things about Lieberman, it'll cost him another ten points. And Lieberman campaigning alone, all alone, will look bitter, very bitter. His smile will look faker than ever. Voters aren't drawn to bitter.

Lieberman is going to have one very big news day in late September and he'll milk it for all its worth. That's all his independent candidacy is going to be about--stage-managing his own exit. He didn't want an eighteen year Senate career to disappear under 'Lamont Wins' headlines. He wanted his own news day, his own headline. He knows how and when to get it.

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BernardR wrote:

I would suggest that Mr. Nimh get another look at the polling on the Leiberman --Lamont Race. I think that Leiberman will be far ahead after the public digests the attempt by the Islamo-fascist murderers to down commercial airliners.

Ah, nothing like capitalizing on America's fears. You wingnuts are brilliant at that. The politiking of terror is the most disgraceful tripe coming out of the GOP warmongering machine right now.

Islamo-fascist "MURDERERS?" Now they're murderers, not terrorists? Is that because right now America feels that Democrats would do a better job at fighting terrorism than Republicans? I remember when Kerry mentioned treating terrorism as a law enforcement issue, Republicans went on a tear. Now their parroting the exact same things we were saying years ago.

Like I've said prior, the timing behind all this coming on the heels of Lamont's win is truly unbelievable. And the propoganda machine is in full force for the White House thanx to the MSM. American corporate fascism has reached a new level in it's infancy.

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Dookiestix wrote:

BernardR wrote:
I would suggest that Mr. Nimh get another look at the polling on the Leiberman --Lamont Race. I think that Leiberman will be far ahead after the public digests the attempt by the Islamo-fascist murderers to down commercial airliners.

Ah, nothing like capitalizing on America's fears. You wingnuts are brilliant at that. The politiking of terror is the most disgraceful tripe coming out of the GOP warmongering machine right now.

Islamo-fascist "MURDERERS?" Now they're murderers, not terrorists? Is that because right now America feels that Democrats would do a better job at fighting terrorism than Republicans? I remember when Kerry mentioned treating terrorism as a law enforcement issue, Republicans went on a tear. Now their parroting the exact same things we were saying years ago.

Like I've said prior, the timing behind all this coming on the heels of Lamont's win is truly unbelievable. And the propoganda machine is in full force for the White House thanx to the MSM. American corporate fascism has reached a new level in it's infancy.

*squak* Bush is bad, Bush is bad *squak*

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