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ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

 
 
Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:29 am
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Israel has no interest in the Arab world and only asks to be left alone.
If Israel had no interest in the Arab world, Israel would not exist. If israel had no interest in the Arab world the zionists would not have carved a new state of Isreal out of Arab lands in the middle east. If they had no interest in the Arab world they would not today be seeking to push the borders of Israel to take over yet more Arab land. There is no other word for the attitude of the average Israeli citizen towards the Arabs than racist. However Israel does and should continue to exist. But only because the alternative, a bi national state as I outlined above, is not and probably never will be feasible.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:34 am
gungasnake wrote:
Large number of civilians hurt in large barrage of missiles on Haifa, Israel


According to the Jerusalem Post as well as other Israelian agencies:
Quote:
Aug. 6, 2006 19:13 | Updated Aug. 6, 2006 19:36
Rockets hit near Haifa; no injuries
By JPOST.COM STAFF

Rockets landed in the Haifa area Sunday evening.

There were no injuries.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:34 am
Israel's apartheid
Fed up with restrictions and discrimination, last month Israeli Arabs joined their Palestinian brethren in the battle against Israeli Jews. http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2000/11/03/israeli_arabs/index.html SECOND CLASS
Discrimination Against Palestinian
Arab Children in Israel's Schools
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/israel2/
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:35 am
Rocket barrage hits Haifa





Quote:

At least six rockets landed in Haifa, eyewitnesses say.



No injuries have been reported. (Ahiya Raved)


(08.06.06, 20:00)
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:36 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
Quote:
Israel has no interest in the Arab world and only asks to be left alone.
If Israel had no interest in the Arab world, Israel would not exist. If israel had no interest in the Arab world the zionists would not have carved a new state of Isreal out of Arab lands in the middle east. If they had no interest in the Arab world they would not today be seeking to push the borders of Israel to take over yet more Arab land. There is no other word for the attitude of the average Israeli citizen towards the Arabs than racist. However Israel does and should continue to exist. But only because the alternative, a bi national state as I outlined above, is not and probably never will be feasible.


Israel had an interest in a land they believe God gave to them more than 2000 years ago. They have an interest in Jerusalem that was initially built by and was the capital city of their own King David. They do not consider Israel to be "Arab lands" and they have no interest in lands they do consider to be Arab lands.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:36 am
Iran remains home to Jewish enclave
By Barbara Demick
KNIGHT-RIDDER

TEHRAN - The Jewish women in the back rows of the synagogue wear long garments in the traditional Iranian style, but instead of chadors, their heads are covered with cheerful, flowered scarves. The boys in their skullcaps, with Hebrew prayer books tucked under their arms, scamper down the aisles to grab the best spots near the lush, turquoise Persian carpet of the altar. This is Friday night, Shabbat - Iranian style, and the synagogue in an affluent neighborhood of North Tehran is filled to capacity with more than 400 worshipers.

It is one of the many paradoxes of the Islamic Republic of Iran that this most virulent anti-Israeli country supports by far the largest Jewish population of any Muslim country. While Jewish communities in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Morocco and Algeria have all but vanished, Iran is home to 25,000 - some here say 35,000 - Jews. The Jewish population is less than half the number that lived here before the Islamic revolution of 1979. But the Jews have tried to compensate for their diminishing numbers by adopting a new religious fervor. ''The funny thing is that before the Islamic revolution, you would see maybe 20 old men in the synagogue,'' whispers Nahit Eliyason, 48, as she climbs over four other women to find one of the few vacant seats. ''Now the place is full. You can barely find a seat.'' Parvis Yashaya, a film producer who heads Tehran's Jewish community, adds: ''we are smaller, but we are stronger in some ways.''

Tehran has 11 functioning synagogues, many of them with Hebrew schools. It has two kosher restaurants, and a Jewish hospital, an old-age home and a cemetery. There is a Jewish representative in the Iranian parliament. There is a Jewish library with 20,000 titles, its reading room decorated with a photograph of the Ayatollah Khomeini. Khomeini protection Iran's Jewish community is confronted by contradictions. Many of the prayers uttered in synagogue, for instance, refer to the desire to see Jerusalem again. Yet there is no postal service or telephone contact with Israel, and any Iranian who dares travel to Israel faces imprisonment and passport confiscation. ''We are Jews, not Zionists. We are a religious community, not a political one,'' Yashaya said.

Before the revolution, Jews were well-represented among Iran's business elite, holding key posts in the oil industry, banking and law, as well as in the traditional bazaar. The wave of anti-Israeli sentiment that swept Iran during the revolution, as well as large-scale confiscation of private wealth, sent thousands of the more affluent Jews fleeing to the United States or Israel. Those remaining lived in fear of pogroms, or massacres. But Khomeini met with the Jewish community upon his return from exile in Paris and issued a ''fatwa'' decreeing that the Jews were to be protected. Similar edicts also protect Iran's tiny Christian minority.

Just as it radically transformed Muslim society, the revolution changed the Jews. Families that had been secular in the 1970s started keeping kosher and strictly observing rules against driving on Shabbat. They stopped going to restaurants, cafes and cinemas - many such establishments were closed down - and the synagogue perforce became the focal point of their social lives. Iranian Jews say they socialize far less with Muslims now than before the revolution. As a whole, they occupy their own separate space within the rigid confines of the Islamic republic, a protected yet precarious niche. Jewish women, like Muslim women, are required by law to keep their heads covered, although most eschew the chador for a simple scarf. But Jews, unlike Muslims, can keep small flasks of home-brewed wine or arragh to drink within the privacy of their homes - in theory, for religious purposes. Some Hebrew schools are coed, and men and women dance with each other at weddings, practices strictly forbidden for Muslims.

''Sometimes I think they are kinder to the Jews than they are to themselves. ... If we are gathered in a house, and the family is having a ceremony with wine or the music is playing too loud, if they find out we are Jews, they don't bother us so much,'' Eliyason said. ''Everywhere in the world there are people who don't like Jews. In England, they draw swastikas on Jewish graves. I don't think that Iran is more dangerous for Jews than other places.'' Some problems exist. Testimony from Jews who have left Iran suggests more serious problems than those cited by Jews inside the country. In written testimony to a congressional subcommittee in February 1996, an Iranian Jew complained of being imprisoned for two years on trumped-up charges of spying for Israel. He also said his arrest was preceded by harassment at work and pressure to convert to Islam. Inside Iran, Jews say that they frequently receive alarmed telephone calls and letters from relatives in the United States concerned about their well-being, but that they themselves do not feel physically endangered. Their major complaint is the inability to visit family in Israel, and what they say is inadequate funding for Hebrew schools, which are administered by the Iranian Ministry of Education. Although many Jews hold jobs in government ministries or within state-owned firms, they say they are unlikely to rise to top positions. In addition, Iran's strict Islamic law, or ''sharia,'' contains many discriminatory provisions toward non-Muslims. Jews 'part of Iran' Still, Jewish leaders say their community has far stronger roots in Iran than other Middle East Jewish communities, which were virtually eradicated by massive immigration to Israel in the 1940s and 1950s.

Esther, the biblical Jewish queen who saved her people from persecution in the fifth century B.C., is reputed to be buried in Hamadan, in western Iran. The grave of the Old Testament prophet Daniel lies in southwestern Iran. ''We are different from the Jews of the diaspora. You see the name 'Persia' in the Old Testament almost as often as the name 'Israel.' The Iranian Jews are very much part of Iran,'' said Gad Naim, 60, who runs the old-age home in Tehran.

Iranian Jews trace their history to the reign of Persia's King Cyrus. As the Bible tells it, Cyrus conquered Babylonia in 539 B.C., liberated the Jews from captivity, and raised funds for the rebuilding of their destroyed temple in Jerusalem. The return of the Jews to Jerusalem at that time was accompanied by a large migration to the lands that were then Persia, and now Iran. In Esfahan, an Iranian city fabled for its intricate Persian tile work, the first Persian Jews were settled under the reign of Cyrus. The ancient city was once known as Dar-Al-Yahud (''House of the Jews'' in Farsi), and as late as the 19th century it was the home of 100,000 Jews, according to Elias Haronian, head of Esfahan's Jewish community. Today, the city is a repository of Jewish lore. It has a cemetery with Jewish graves 2,000 years old, stunning synagogues and Jewish mausoleums with tiles to rival those of the mosques - but a population of only 1,500 Jews. What happened to the Jews? Some converted centuries ago. Indeed, in Muslim villages surrounding Esfahan, a distinctive Jewish dialect of Farsi is spoken, and Muslims still follow certain Jewish rituals, such as lighting candles on Fridays. Others left for Tehran, or for California or New York. Some went to Israel. ''It is not that life is so difficult for us, but a minority is a minority We are like a glass of water in the sea,'' Haronian said. Haronian, a petroleum engineer, worries less about persecution than about the faltering Iranian economy, the lack of job opportunities for his four children, and the shortage of suitable Jewish spouses. ''There are very few Jewish boys here. There are so few of us,'' said his 17-year-old daughter, Shirin. At Esfahan's Hebrew school, students confided that they are deeply torn between a love of their homeland and a desire to escape from the stifling isolation of Iran. The decision to stay or go may rest largely on Mohammad Khatami, a relatively progressive cleric who won a landslide election May 23 as the next president of Iran. Although he is virulently anti-Israel in his public comments, Khatami was considered sympathetic to the Jews during his term as Iran's minister of culture and Islamic guidance. He paid a campaign visit to a social club for Jewish women in Tehran. ''We expect more freedom, an easier life, not just for Jews, for everybody,'' said Farangis Hassidim, an administrator of Tehran's Jewish hospital.

Not everyone in the Jewish community favors liberalization of Iranian society. Arizel Levihim, 20, a prospective Hebrew teacher, said Judaism has fared better within the confines of Iran's strictly religious society. ''I believe it is good for women to keep their head covered. I think it is good to restrict relations between boys and girls,'' Levihim said. ''I agree with the ideals of the Islamic republic. These are Jewish values too.''
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:37 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
Quote:
Israel has no interest in the Arab world and only asks to be left alone.
If Israel had no interest in the Arab world, Israel would not exist. If israel had no interest in the Arab world the zionists would not have carved a new state of Isreal out of Arab lands in the middle east..


Repeating bullshit does not change or transform it into anything other than bullshit. The zionists took a bunch of uninhabited land and made something out of it and that was too ****ing much for the stinking slammites since it clearly made them look bad. That's the basic reality of the thing.

Moreover, in my judgement at least, making slammites look bad is not asking for terribly much. Give 100,000 slammites and 100,000 chimpanzees the same basic materials to work with starting from scratch and my money says the chimps would be twenty years ahead of the slammites inside of ten years. I mean, chimpanzees don't waste time sitting around feeling sorry for themselves.
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revel
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:45 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
http://i2.tinypic.com/23t05g0.jpg
A Lebanese man runs away from the burning
ruins of a building destroyed during an overnight
Israeli air raid on Beirut's suburbs August 5,2006.
Many buildings were flattened during the attack.
REUTERS


Is the same picture of the one that was doctored or is this the correct picture or an image of something else entirely?

Reuters is not the only one who have shown images of the events happening in Lebanan. There have been images from other news agengies and interviews from HRW and other independent sources. The whole thing is not staged.
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revel
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:50 am
gungsnake, substitute Blacks for Muslims and Arabs and you would be a perfect candidate for KKK Membership.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:53 am
revel wrote:
gungsnake, substitute Blacks for Muslims and Arabs and you would be a perfect candidate for KKK Membership.


Slammites still buy and sell blacks. I mean, you can read about slavery in the Christian world but you have to open a history book to do it. You can read about slavery in the slammite world by opening one of many slammite newspapers to the classified ads section under 'S'.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:55 am
Response to BlueFlame's post:

FROM THE IRANIAN
Several reports on human rights in Iran, including the most recent report issued by the US Department of State, have commented upon the reluctance of Iranian Jews to speak out on conditions affecting them, while others have taken the official statements of the Iranian Jewish Community supporting the Islamic regime at face value, none of the reports have bothered to take a closer look at questionable background and contacts of those who claim to speak on behalf of the Iranian Jewish community.

This reluctance to criticize, or even the eagerness to support the Islamic Regime, however, is not evidence of informal intimidation of the Jewish Community by government officials, but is also, and more significantly, a result of an obligatory contractual agreement between the minority community and the Islamic Republic.

The silence, therefore, of the Iranian Jewish community inside Iran concerning discrimination and persecution is in itself evidence of the dangerous and precarious situation the community finds itself in and which it is unable to denounce without breaking its contractual agreement as a religious minority living in a Muslim land.
__________________________________

FROM IRANIAN.COM
As a minority group in Iran, Iranian Jews experience an added hardship living in a society governed by the strict implementation of Islamic laws. Many Iranian Jews also experience prejudice, stereotyping, and ocassional discrimination. However, majority of these Jews regard themselves Iranians and would prefer to share the pain and joy of living in that country with their fellow Iranians, be it Muslim, Bahahi, Zoroasterian, or Christian.


FROM WIKIPEDIA
The Constitution of Iran declares that the "official religion of Iran is Islam and the doctrine followed is that of "Ja''fari (Twelver) Shi''ism." The Iranian government restricts freedom of religion.
Iran's religious minorities -- including Baháá'íís, Jews, Christians, and Sufi Muslims -- reported imprisonment, harassment, and intimidation based on their religious beliefs. At least four Baháá'íís were among those still imprisoned for reasons related to their faith, while eight Jews remained in prison.


FROM JEWISH VIRTUAL LIBRARY
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:56 am
Actually, you could also read about slammite slavery by opening the classified ad section to 'W': Women are basically slaves in the slammite world as well.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 12:01 pm
Jerusalem post saying 30 or more injured, one known dead, and dozens buried in rubble of a collapsed building in Haifa from Iranian Fajr rockets.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 12:11 pm
More on that phony Reuters photo. Note that Reuters is now saying that the photographer who turned it in is the same photographer who provided all those heart wrenching Reuters photos from Qana. It does raise some interesting additional questions doesn't it?

Reuters admits altering Beirut photo

Reuters withdraws photograph of Beirut after Air Force attack after US blogs, photographers point out 'blatant evidence of manipulation.' Reuters' head of PR says in response, 'Reuters has suspended photographer until investigations are completed into changes made to photograph.' Photographer who sent altered image is same Reuters photographer behind many of images from Qana, which have also been subject of suspicions for being staged
Yaakov Lappin

MORE HERE . . . .
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 12:26 pm
Israel pushing toward WWIII

August 6, 2006



It is beyond my moral imagination why our U.S. Congress and our five Iowa congressmen have given almost 100 percent approval in what Israel is doing to Lebanon and the Palestinians, all because of three captured Israeli soldiers.

Why do the Zionists believe they are God's chosen people, and do what they are doing? Israel has made refugees out of two-thirds of the Palestinians; they have 10,000 Palestinians in their prisons and won't release them.

The radical Hamas and Hezbollah organizations did not come into existence until Israel began its land expansion. Now Israel has created 700,000 more refugees in Lebanon.

The prophets of justice and peace need to rise up and be heard at this time. I don't want my tax dollars going to Israel and supporting this Zionist, military action.

May God help us Americans to see what is morally right in the Middle East, or Israel will be leading us into a Third World War.

- Darrell V. Mitchell,

Marshalltown.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 01:00 pm
JPost now saying 3 dead and over 100 wounded in Haifa. Again, my advice to anybody living in Lebanon: Leave. Even if the only way to leave is to jump in the med and swim for it...
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 01:16 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
More on that phony Reuters photo. Note that Reuters is now saying that the photographer who turned it in is the same photographer who provided all those heart wrenching Reuters photos from Qana. It does raise some interesting additional questions doesn't it?

Reuters admits altering Beirut photo

Reuters withdraws photograph of Beirut after Air Force attack after US blogs, photographers point out 'blatant evidence of manipulation.' Reuters' head of PR says in response, 'Reuters has suspended photographer until investigations are completed into changes made to photograph.' Photographer who sent altered image is same Reuters photographer behind many of images from Qana, which have also been subject of suspicions for being staged
Yaakov Lappin

MORE HERE . . . .


It raises questions for normal people. What you're dealing with here is lame-brain leftoids, though.

See this whine...

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2193773&sid=25074112f24abb819ff9dc2c20563a9d#2193773
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revel
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 01:20 pm
Quote:
More on that phony Reuters photo. Note that Reuters is now saying that the photographer who turned it in is the same photographer who provided all those heart wrenching Reuters photos from Qana. It does raise some interesting additional questions doesn't it?


Are you suggesting that all the images that we have seen on TV and other news agencies of Qana are fake because one of the ones from one photographer is bogus? It was more than just Reuters who provided photos from Qana.

It appears that the photographer did fake the photo to make it more dramatic. However, the event actually did take place.

The following is from BBC

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41947000/jpg/_41947486_tricycle_afp.jpg

Getty Image:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41947000/jpg/_41947528_desolation_getty.jpg

AfP

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41947000/jpg/_41947584_girls_afp.jpg

AP

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41947000/jpg/_41947590_rescueeffort_ap.jpg

AP

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41947000/jpg/_41947684_body_ap.jpg
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 01:45 pm
gungasnake wrote:
JPost now saying 3 dead and over 100 wounded in Haifa. Again, my advice to anybody living in Lebanon: Leave. Even if the only way to leave is to jump in the med and swim for it...


Good advice if the Hizzies would let them leave. Wouldn't surprise me if they're being held at gunpoint.
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revel
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 01:49 pm
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41972000/jpg/_41972044_injured_b203_afp.jpg

Quote:
Hezbollah launches rocket barrage
At least 15 people have been killed in a barrage of Hezbollah rocket strikes on northern Israel.
Twelve reservist soldiers died in an attack on the town of Kfar Giladi.

A number of rockets later landed on the Israeli port of Haifa, killing three people and injuring dozens. Reports said at least one building collapsed.

Meanwhile, the UN is debating a draft resolution on the crisis, demanding Hezbollah halt all attacks and Israel stop all offensive military operations.

But Lebanon has formally asked the United Nations security council to revise its proposed resolution.

The Lebanese representative at the UN, Nouhad Mahmoud, said he had submitted an amendment, calling for Israeli forces to withdraw from Lebanese territory.

Speaking before the amendment was submitted, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said a quick vote was important, and if passed, the resolution should end large-scale violence soon.

But she warned ongoing "skirmishes" could not be ruled out, and the resolution was only the first step towards lasting peace.

Israel has continued raids in Lebanon, killing at least 14 people.

Rockets rain down

The death toll in Kfar Giladi is the highest suffered by the Israelis in a single attack since the conflict began almost a month ago.





Eyewitnesses said the Hezbollah rocket barrage on northern Israel had lasted more than 15 minutes, injuring at least 15 people.

Shortly after dark, several rockets landed in residential areas of Haifa, Israel's third largest city, killing at least three and injuring dozens.

One rocket hit an apartment block which partly collapsed, trapping residents inside. Rescue teams were shifting rubble by hand to free them.

The BBC's Humphrey Hawksley, in Haifa, says the renewed rocket assault followed a lull and may have taken some residents by surprise.

He describes people in the street throwing themselves to the ground as the rockets hit - following government advice on the best way to avoid the hail of ball-bearings packed into the warheads.

Israel fights on

Hezbollah has fired more than 3,000 rockets into northern Israel since the conflict began.

Meanwhile Israel is continuing its campaign in Lebanon.


There were dozens of air strikes on the south, and reports of fierce clashes on the ground.

Five Lebanese civilians died early on Sunday in an air raid on the southern village of Ansar, according to Lebanese sources. Reports say three others were killed in an attack on the coastal town of Naquora.

Israeli jets also carried out fresh bombing raids on Beirut's southern suburbs, in and around the port city of Tyre, and on the eastern Bekaa Valley.

Israel's campaign began more than three weeks ago after Hezbollah militants captured two Israeli soldiers.

Lebanese authority

The UN draft resolution, agreed after much debate between France and the US, calls for a "full cessation of hostilities based upon, in particular, the immediate cessation by Hezbollah of all attacks and the immediate cessation by Israel of all offensive military operations".


Senior Israeli officials said they were broadly happy with the text of the resolution.

But Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem, in Beirut for talks with Lebanese leaders, said the draft resolution was a "recipe for the continuation of the war".

Ms Rice told reporters on Sunday the resolution was needed to stop the large-scale violence and create conditions on which a stable solution to the crisis could be built.

"This is really now an opportunity to extend the authority of the Lebanese government throughout its own territory," she said.

The US national security adviser, Stephen Hadley, said that once this resolution was passed a further resolution would be sought authorising an international peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5249972.stm
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