ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

@Foofie,

It has nothing to do with money coming back; it's illegal to give monies to any country that uses that money for building occupied settlements on Palestinian lands.

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

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The Proxmire amendment bans military assistance to any government that refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to allow inspection of its nuclear facilities, which Israel refuses to do.

Does Israel have nukes?
What evidence is there that they do?
And if they dont, then the amendment does not apply to them.

Israel's secret weapon are Jewish mothers that can nudge Arabs to death with haranguing them to GO TO COLLEGE! I do not believe Israel has any nuclear weapons. Perhaps, a few glow in the dark watches from the 1950's, in my opinion.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

It has nothing to do with money coming back; it's illegal to give monies to any country that uses that money for building occupied settlements on Palestinian lands.

I would like to think that you are not just saying the above as you type it, but screaming, at the top of your lungs, each word. Enjoy!

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@Foofie,

No need to scream; the story is self-evident to most people with a conscience and humanity.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

No need to scream; the story is self-evident to most people with a conscience and humanity.

As long as they do not look back before 1967.

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@Foofie,

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I do not believe Israel has any nuclear weapons.

well, you've just moved from being a zealot to incredibly stupid.

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

[Does Israel have nukes?
What evidence is there that they do?
And if they dont, then the amendment does not apply to them.

Yes they do - about 300 warheads. They did the initial tests in the early 1960s with the help of South Africa.

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

Look at JTT's statement.
He did not specify only the Jews or only the holocaust.

He said ANY GROUP.

So, then why do the Palestinians deserve a homeland simply because of how the Israeli's may or may not have treated them in the past?

I don't believe anyone is arguing that they deserve a homeland simply because of how Israel has treated them. The deserve self-determination and they should retain their rights to their property -- much of which has been in their families for centuries -- simply because they are human. If we take their property for purposes of a Jewish homeland, for which they cannot partake, then it is justice that requires us to substitute something else in its place. They won't ever get their land back, but at least they are entitled to self-determination on some pathetically tiny percentage of their ethnic homeland.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

mysteryman wrote:

[Does Israel have nukes?
What evidence is there that they do?
And if they dont, then the amendment does not apply to them.

Yes they do - about 300 warheads. They did the initial tests in the early 1960s with the help of South Africa.

Who could have counted them?

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@Foofie,

Foofie, You certainly could not, because you always have your blinders on!

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@Foofie,

Obfuscation? That's just not like you, Foofie.

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@JTT,

The only obfuscation comes from the Israelis who have denied US inspectors access to their nuclear program. Dr Teller, father of the thermonuclear bomb, made his assessment from talking to Israeli scientists, that Israel was developing nuclear weapons since the 1950s.

From fas.org.

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Based on plausible upper and lower bounds of the operating practices at the reactor, Israel could have thus produced enough plutonium for at least 100 nuclear weapons, but probably not significantly more than 200 weapons.

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I repeat. Who could have counted them?

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@Foofie,

Foofie, You miss the total concept of a) why the US considers Israel "our allie," b) why we continue giving Israel billions of dollars every year, c) why do they keep their nuclear weapons development secret from the US when they purchase our fighter jets and other military technology, and d) why Israel's spying programs against the US is repugnant based on our so-called "relationship."

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Hamas just announced that it would never recognize Israel. In view of that, why should Israel even bother with trying to reach an accord with Hamas, or, for that matter, with the Pals in general?

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@Advocate,

In view of the simple fact that Hamas does not speak for all Palestinians, why is Israel punishing all Palestinians for the few?

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@FreeDuck,

The deserve self-determination and they should retain their rights to their property -- much of which has been in their families for centuries -- simply because they are human
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LOL they have the same right as the Indians tribes have to the eastern seaboard of the USA.

When the Indains get their lands back is when the Pals are going to get their lands back not one second before my silly friend.

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@cicerone imposter,

Hamas is the elected govt of the Gaza strip.

Are you now saying that a freely elected govt does not speak for the people that elected them?

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@BillRM,

Bill, We're not talking about over 100 years ago; we're discussing "current events." If you look back into history far enough, almost all cultures are guilty of occupying foreign lands.

Current ethics and humanity are the issues; not what happened before the current status of countries that have changed their borders through wars.

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@cicerone imposter,

Current ethics and humanity are the issues; not what happened before the current status of countries that have changed their borders through wars.
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Current ethics and humanity as declared by you or anyone else have zero ability to change the fact that Israel have the land and the arm abilities and will to keep that land.

Countries and peoples had always changes their borders by wars and that little fact had not change one little bit and is unlikely to change anytime soon as in the next thousand years or so.

Would you like to point out the arm forces that is able and willing to engage the Israel and force your idea of morals on them?

The Pals claims to the land in question is as dead as the Indians claims to the Easthern Seaboard and for the same reason.

If England had not been able and willing to used arm force to keep the Falkland islands all the crying of the people then living on that island would not change their land from then belonging to Argentine.

I would suggest you grow up and view the world as it is not as how you would wish it to be.

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