@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Foofie wrote:
Quote:The only problem with this post is that I cannot help but personally disqualify someone, who has German citizenship, from giving input on ethics relating to Israel.
You are a blind, ignorant, fool! Walter had absolutely nothing to do with the holocaust. Yet, you use a large brush to discredit Walter because he is German.
You are a racial bigot of the worst kind. The white flag incident in Gaza was report by the human rights organization; Walter just posted the same report I read in this morning's newspaper. How do you "disqualify" that?
I am not disqualifying Walter per se. I was trying to explain that since Germany was the direct impetus to Israel's creation in 1948, regardless of how old the Zionist movement is (and did not effect a State, until the Holocaust left a few hundred thousand displaced persons stateless afterwards), then ANY German citizen might have a little sensitivity in not criticizing the politics of said state that only came into existence, in the 20th century, as a direct result of the genocidal actions of the Fatherland (regardless of whether the Fatherland is under the rule of a Bismarck, a Kaiser, a Hitler, or a German Democratic Republic, the citizens still identify themselves as (good) Germans).
So, it would be nice if Germans just focussed on being the big cheese of the EU, and did not comment on Israel, since Israel, and Jews, really had the full course dinner, so to speak, of German thinking back in the 20th century. It is not like everyone is pro-Zionist; you can surely fill in the vacuum, if all Germans never even mentioned the word "Israel" again.
And, if Israeli Jews do not all live up to your standards of correct moral and ethical behavior, could there be a cause and effect due to trying to survive in the Middle East, surrounded by neighbors that gave them four wars in the 20th century? And, the connection to Germany, is that the Jews that dominated Israeli politics have all been of European descent. Gee, what are Europeans doing in the Middle East? The answer is Germany and the genocide that occurred in WWII. So, like when a game warden says too many of a certain animal has been hunted, and there needs to be a respite in hunting that animal (so it can increase its population), maybe German citizens should give Jews a respite in their current moral thinking, since only 65 years ago the thinking was not so moral.
I would guess there are Chinese today that do not want to listen to the advice from any native Japanese. Now do you see my point?