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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 03:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Tell us about how the Japanese grabbed Manchuria and other territories. Is it the Japanese race that did this?
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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 03:28 pm
@BillRM,
The ship had a flag, but not that big. Also, there was no wind, causing the flag to hang limply. Being a spy ship, there were no other distinguishing markings. Israel had no reason to attack the ship, and did not do so.
Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 03:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Japanese were absolutely bestial before and during the war. Was it the race that did it?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 03:49 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate, I suggest you study the history of all cultures before you post such nonsense. However, I agree 100% that Japan's military acted atrociously against other humans before and during WWII. Today, Japan is one of our closest allies.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 04:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Advocate, You would do well to learn this one truism about humans:
Friedrich Nietzsche quotes
Quote:

“Man is the cruelest animal.”
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 04:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Just to correct the record, we have both been wrong.

There WAS a Japanese-American convicted of treason against the US during WW2.
Her name was Iva Toguri D'Aquino, but she was more commonly known as "Tokyo Rose'.
She would broadcast anti American propoganda to American forces in the Pacific.
According to my grandfather, she knew units AND names of individual soldiers.
She broadcast that the USMC 2nd division was on route to the pacific, 1 day after they left port in Hawaii.

She had to be getting that information from somewhere.
I know she got it from Japanese intelligence, but where did they get it.
By inference, there had to be a Japanese spy ring in Hawaii and Ca.

BUT, she was the ONLY Japanese-American convicted of treason.

According to Wikipedia...

Identified by the press as Tokyo Rose after the war, she was detained for a year by the U.S. military before being released for lack of evidence. Upon return to the U.S., the Federal Bureau of Investigation began an investigation of her activities and she was subsequently charged by the United States Attorney's Office with eight counts of treason. Her 1949 trial resulted in a conviction on one count, making her the seventh American to be convicted on that charge. In 1974, investigative journalists found key witnesses had lied during testimony and other serious problems with the conduct of the trial. She was pardoned by U.S. President Gerald Ford in 1977.[1]
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 05:32 pm
@Advocate,
The ship had a flag, but not that big. Also, there was no wind, causing the flag to hang limply. Being a spy ship, there were no other distinguishing markings. Israel had no reason to attack the ship, and did not do so.
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SURE... however that was not the story of the American crew or at least the story of those who survive the attack.

Not that this action is surprising or shocking as nations do what they think is in their best interest always.

However if I had been in charge of the American government at the time I would had insisted that they hang a few of their high ranking military men before they got one bit of added hardware from us.

But that is just me.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 05:34 pm
@mysteryman,
We was all talking about spying and spy rings not a radio personality.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 05:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Bill, YOu're doing it again; let's talk about current laws and issues. Going back in history only convoluted the issues we must face today. Past actions by any country has very little relevance based on current laws.
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Yesterday is history one second ago is history when you are talking about nations a few hundred years is yesterday!

What is this silliness that you think that today and yesterday is not connected with tomorrow?

Rules and laws today as in an international court that have no real power over any nation with a good military and who rulings you can wipe you rear end with?

I could point out similar bodies in history but we are not allow by your world view to take any information from the past.

Land deeds are worthless today as they was from the beginning of history without power behind that deed that are able to defend it.

Today not in history Israel sit on a nuclear weapon pile of over 300 bombs by best guess and a military machine that few can match.

They set the laws and the rules in their area of the world in the same way all powerful nations had always done not an international court or international laws or any such other nonsense.


Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 05:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Foofie, That may very well sound like anti-Semitism, but thems are the facts; just look at how the Jews of Israel have continued to steal Palestinians lands and expanded their settlements for the past half century.

Maybe the miles for an inch is too conservative.

Tell me where I'm wrong?


You are wrong, because you said, "Give the Jews an inch, and they'll take a mile." That is a standard anti-Semitic canard about Jews everywhere. If you are talking about Israeli Jews, and choose to besmirch them all, then you must tire your little fingers out with the prefix, "Israeli"; otherwise, you are using standard anti-Semitic rhetoric about Jews in the entire world.

Perhaps, you should refrain from using colloquial expressions about Jews, since not everyone knows you are using it in such a non-colloquial manner.


cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 06:01 pm
@BillRM,
No, we are talking about private property rights in the current world. Talking about the past does nothing for today's rules and regulations. Just because some countries do not follow international laws doesn't mean it doesn't have value. It has human rights values that you seem unawares and incapable of understanding.

Even Jews with conscience knows that what Zionist Israel is doing to the Palestinians is against good ethics, common sense, and human rights. Many speak out against the apartheid of Israel.

You know, those Jew Haters.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 06:01 pm
@Foofie,
Well, FYI, this thread is about Israel. Get with the program or get out!
Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 06:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
So, you are not making a differentiation between American citizens that are Jewish (aka, Jews) and Israelis that are Jews? If you are not, then making the assertion that "no Jew can come and steal (your) property," is an innuendo that an American Jew might want to. That is anti-Semitic. One might think you do not have much regard for the sensitivities of the American Jewish community when you use the word "Jew" with such abandon. The word "Jew" would include the American Jewish community; especially, when you use colloquial expressions that have been used pejoratively against them ("give an inch and they will take a mile). I understand that in your youth there was not much concern about the Jewish community, and specifically on the west coast. Try to write for the entire world.

Israel's Jews are quite diverse in their politics, and the government is not one monolithic Jew. And, there are Jews world-wide that do not make Israeli policy.

You are using the word "Jew" incorrectly for someone that is not an anti-Semite.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 06:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Even Jews? LOL.

In any case international law and international regulations does not stop one suicide bomber from killing men women and children nor will it stop any nation from doing what it view is in it best interest.

So yes other then for talking points for people like you international laws concept is indeed worthless and had always been so.

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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 06:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Based on what you have been saying, I, for one, will henceforth judge your writings in the prism of your being an anti-Semitic ****.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 07:49 pm
@Advocate,
What's an "anti-Semite ****?" Are you aware that there are many internet web sites that describes many Jewish "bad stuff?"

Here's one of many you may want to research: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-communists.html
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 07:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
BTW, many of those sites are founded by Jews. Is he an "anti-Semite ****?"
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 08:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You are indeed an anti-Jewish **** and had drug yourself in deeper and deeper.

Suggest you drop your current handle and log in with a new handle and not allow yourself to be as open about your hate as you had been in the future.

In fact I think it about time I add you to my block list.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 08:21 pm
@BillRM,
Hate? Where did that come from? I just tell facts that are mostly found on the internet through Google, and my observations that are reflected by not only Gentiles but also by Jews.

What you need to do is to refute what I post with reliable sources that can be confirmed. All you have done is resorted to ad hominems.

I've read Susan Nathan's account of her living in a Palestinian village in Israel, and she's also called names by other Jews.

Many like her who see the wrong-doings also refuse to serve in the IDF, and also do not approve of the settlements development on stolen lands. I'm sure they're all Jew-haters and anti-Semites.

Human rights organization also challenge what the Jews of Israel are doing, so I feel I'm on the "right" side of this issue. Call me all the names you want, because they don't hurt my feelings at all!


cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2009 08:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
http://www.jatonyc.org/UNresolutions.html

FYI, this is a link called "Jews Against The Occupation."
 

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