ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

Yeah, I can vaguely remember that. It happened some decades ago didn't it?

Osama was not the head of Iraq. You remind me of the sheeple in Europe who stood by while Hitler gained power. Also, some leaders are irrationale and, thus, don't rationalize like you.

I never said Obama was the head of Iraq. That was dreamed up in your own brain. Show me where I said that?

You effectively said that "Osama bin-Ladin", not Obama, was head of Iraq. Btw, it is a miracle we didn't have a nuclear exchange with the USSR. Many powerful people wanted to pull the trigger. In the Cuban missile crisis, thank goodness JFK didn't follow most of the advice he was getting.

This is you typical lying. I said:

"Re: cicerone imposter (Post 3726152)
No country could take the chance that Ahmandineajad and others were merely sounding off. As someone said, Hitler was no joke, and did more than anyone thought he would. Of course, Osama was no joke when he destroyed the Twin Towers. "

In the very next post in this thread, you effectively refer to Osama as the head of Iraq.

Also, some leaders are irrationale and, thus, don't rationalize like you.
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So you are suggesting that we should go to war every time some leader threaten us?

So let see since WW2 we would have been to nuclear war with both the former USSR and China and have a number of others wars if the nuclear wars had not completely destroy us by that point.

For some reason I am coming to the conclusion that you are not all that rational yourself and I would not wish you in any position of power.

Effectively? Come on! You can copy and paste my statement here like you have with my other statements. It's real easy.

If you are going to be that small and petty, forget it.

Humanitarian agency denounces Hamas rocket attacks.


By Mark Iype, Canwest News ServiceAugust 7, 2009

OTTAWA - A leading international humanitarian agency has called the targeting of Israeli civilians by Palestinian rocket attacks a war crime.

``Hamas violated the laws of war by targeting Israeli civilians and by launching rockets from populated Palestinian areas that put their own people at risk,'' said Bill Van Esveld, the lead researcher on the 31-page Human Rights Watch report released Thursday.

Titled ``Rockets from Gaza: Harm to Civilians from Palestinian Armed Groups' Rocket Attacks,'' the report documents attacks by Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups since November 2008.

During Israel's three-week military offensive in Gaza in December 2008 and January 2009, hundreds of the Soviet-era and locally built Qassam rockets were launched at Israeli towns and cities, killing three civilians, damaging property and forcing thousands of people to flee.

Van Esveld's research found it was clear the rocket attacks targeted civilians because his group examined Hamas websites after the killing of the three Israelis during the conflict, and in each instance, Hamas claimed responsibility for the deaths.

``Their intent was to kill a civilian,'' Van Esveld said. ``This is the strongest evidence of a war crime.''

He also said the inaccuracy of the rockets constituted a violation of the rules of war because the rockets were indiscriminate, putting both Israeli and Palestinian civilians at risk.

Many of the rockets either went off course from their intended targets, or fell short, landing within Palestinian territory, the report said. It added that while 800,000 thousand Israelis lived within range of the rockets, thousands of Palestinians were also put at risk from wayward rockets.

On Dec. 26, the day before the Israeli incursion, two Palestinian girls were killed from rockets that did not reach their targets.

Van Esveld said his report did not find Hamas used Palestinian civilians as shields, but rockets were fired from within densely populated areas that put locals in grave danger from misfiring rockets and Israeli retaliation.

Gaza has a population of 1.4 million people in an area only 360 square kilometres.

In response to the report, Van Esveld said the Palestinians he spoke with acknowledged targeting civilians is wrong, but many rely on the justification that rocket attacks are their only way to fight back against Israel's military superiority, calling it ``legitimate resistance.''

Many Palestinians also argued only three civilians were killed, but Van Esveld said that Israeli defences and early warning siren systems are the reason so few civilians died.

``It's never legitimate,'' said Van Esveld. ``You can't hold Israeli civilians responsible for the actions of a government.''

Van Esveld said Human Rights Watch is calling on Hamas to repudiate the targeting of civilians.

While he doesn't think Palestinian tactics will change in the short term, he said he is hopeful the report, combined with a study being released in September by the UN Human Rights Council about the recent conflict, can be used as a lever for advocacy.

``Maybe we'll move towards accountability,'' said Van Esveld. ``Right now, nobody will admit that they are responsible for the death of a 90-year-old woman or a two-year-old baby.''

--canada.com

Get ready for the attacks on you and on Human Rights Watch.
The usual suspects will say that the report is biased, that the Pals dont fire rockets, that they dont target Israeli civilians, etc.

The usual suspects will say that Israel actually wrote that report.

I do think that the "usual suspects" know that this is the fifth in a series of reports Human Rights Watch has issued on the Israeli offensive launched on December 27, 2008. And have read the others (or know about them, at least).

Some were even posted here .... but people like Advocate said, they were biased.

For those who think that Israel is using too great of counter force for the rockets attacks I would suggest thinking how we(as in the USA) would reacted to such random rockets attacks from Mexico.

Mexico is too smart to know that our weapon systems can destroy them. Besides, we don't control their lives with cement and barbed wired fences, and restrict their movement within their own country. FYI, Mexico and the US are two independent countries. Mexicans who live in this country have all the opportunities and freedoms all of us enjoy. There's no need for anyone to use rockets.

Then, we have people like Tim McVeigh.

It is interesting that the report calls out the Pals for firing rockets from populated areas, thus endangering the civilians residing in those areas.

Yes, but what you are missing is that most of those rockets are harmless, but the weapons used against the Palestinians are always deadly.

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Excellent question!

Yes, how would Americans react to random rocket attacks from either or both of our neighbors, Mexico or Canada?

Observing that both our neighbors are too smart to permit this from happening begs the question! How would we react? It's obvious we would do whatever it takes to stop such attacks including, if necessary to stop them, firing rockets back directly into those neighborhoods from which the rocket attacks originated.

Those firing those rockets would be reponsible for both any American and any neighbor casualties that resulted. Those in the original random rocket firing neighborhoods would be accomplices if they did not try to stop those attacks and succeed in making it unnecessary for Americans to fire back.

That's not an excellent question; it's a stupid question. Mexico, Canada and the US are separate countries with borders. Israel is one country that treats its citizens unequally. They have put most Palestinians into prison-like communities with cement and barbed wired fences. They are not a "separate" country; they are all citizens of Israel.

Where in Mexico, Canada or the US does it treat its citizens differently? Which country steals its own citizens property without compensation and builds "settlements" restricted to one culture (in this case, Jews).

You don't understand anything about our country, Mexico, or Canada, and certainly nothing about Israel.

Most of those rockets are harmless because they are not accurate.
If they were more accurate, many more Israeli's would be injured or killed.

If they were more accurate, would you then say Israel was right to retaliate?
Would you like another country to help make them more accurate?

BTW, the Israeli's use pepper spray, rubber bullets, tear gas and other non-lethal weapons against the Pals also.
Are you saying that these are lethal?

And of course, you are the expert?




Gee, I guess you havent been to any Indian reservations in the US?
I guess you havent seen how the indigenous peoples of Canada are treated in some areas.