ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

Advocate, Why are you bothering to post articles that has absolutely nothing to do with the takeover of Palestinian lands? That they have a different religious' culture has no bearing on the stealing of lands and expansion of settlements.

I guess you feel that this thread is limited to the alleged Israili takeover of Pal lands. That only shows your obsession with, or hatred of, Israel. The thread goes far beyond that. My post shows that the Pal territories are gradually being controlled by Islamic extremists, who will be a danger to everyone.

It has nothing to do with obsession or hatred of Israel; it's 100% about a so-called democracy that treats its minority citizens with disdain in an apartheid state that steals Palestinian lands at will.

It's not about Islamic extremists controlling Pals land; it's about outright stealing of Palestinian lands by Israelis.

CI gives us the same old rant against Israel. As usual, he presents no facts or valid arguments.

Of course not! Can't help it if you're unable to relate to all the credible media (such as the BBC and NYT) and human rights organization coverage on this subject.

Cice, yoou actually believe the BBC and NYT are credible media!

Incredible!

Advi, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel when you quote a Bush Administration hack like John Bolton. You should be ashamed of yourself.



So what? The US helped Iran develop its nuclear power back in the days of the Shah. Its ballistic missile program isn't illegal under any international laws and neither are its military bases.

The problem with Iran's nuclear power program is that it hasn't declared its enrichment and reprocessing of spent fuel to the IAEA.

Back in 2007, when good ol' Dubya was still prez, nonetheless, the National Intelligence Estimate had determined that Iran had ceased its nuclear weapons program in 2003.



The Israelis (read: Zionists) have it completely ass-backwards in their dissociative disorder. It will be precisely Israel's cessation of and reparation for its oppression of the Palestinian peoples that will ultimately lead to the end of the belligerence between the two nations.

It's the same old rant, because no matter how much evidence is presented, you refuse to accept the facts. You have a mental block that goes beyond normal.

I don't like to quote Bolton. But he is sometimes correct, as he is with respect to Iran's nuclear ambitions. You conveniently fail to mention that a number of Iranian leaders (not just the president) have declared their intent to destroy Israel. A couple have discussed using nukes for this, saying that the destruction could be accomplished with only two bombs. I am quite sure what the USA would do if it were the subject of such threats from another country. Further, I think you would be fully supportive of such action.

Given that Israel more then likely had many hundreda of nuclear weapons and I would bet on fussion bombs being part of their stock pile I do not think that even the rulers of Iran would kill their own country and own families because they hate Israel no matter what they say.

BillRM, That's the bottom line; Iran is not about to kill themselves by attacking Israel. That's one sure of disappearing from this world very quickly.

Iran also has a big problem with their currency; it's lost most of its value which means they are unable to continue any trade with foreign countries.

They'll implode from their own economy before anybody has to destroy them with bombs.

People forget that Hitler, when portrayed by Charlie Chaplin as a funny man with a mustache, was thought to be of little future consequence. This time the world should not make such a mistake, by trivializing a country that seems to be using a different criteria of ethics and morality.

If Israel does deal directly with Iran successfully, it would be another blow to the Muslim sense of pride (not forgetting the four wars they lost to Israel). It might be an incentive for Muslims to have their own Diaspora, and forget the need to make all the sand in the Middle East theirs to make sand castles.

And, if Israel does not deal directly with Iran's impending nuclear capability, it might make Europe realize that Israel's existence is strategically beneficial to them, since missiles that some medium size countries are getting have longer and longer flight ranges.

Our anti-Israel friends also forget the fanaticism that exists among the Muslims, especially Iran, which developed an ethos of suicide attacks during its war with Iraq. In fact, the current president was in charge of the kids sent to explode land mines. Iranian leaders have said that they should be willing to lose, say, a third of Iran knowing that Israel would be destroyed and that Iran would survive as a nation.

That's a very funny analysis of the US support for Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war. I guess you've already forgotten about our six year war in Iraq that's still on-going.

That you even believe the bluster of the tyrant who now governs Iran shows how little you understand international politics and the reality of wars.

Iranian leaders have said that they should be willing to lose, say, a third of Iran knowing that Israel would be destroyed and that Iran would survive as a nation.
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Suicide attacks by others not the leaders or their families.

When Bin Laden wear a suicide vest and blow himself up then I will buy into the nonsense that the the leadership would be willing to die in the name of their faith.

Second given that the nuclear stockpile on the other side is overwhelming there is not going to be an Iran after a full scale nuclear war with Israel.

No country could take the chance that Ahmandineajad and others were merely sounding off. As someone said, Hitler was no joke, and did more than anyone thought he would. Of course, Osama was no joke when he destroyed the Twin Towers.

For you to even compare the leader of Iraq with Hitler shows how misinformed you are about the strength of that country.

Most of the younger generation Iranians likes Americans and American values.

All those demonstrations against Ahmandineajad during the last election is the obvious sign that his power is too weak to lead his country into any war.

No country could take the chance that Ahmandineajad and others were merely sounding off. As someone said, Hitler was no joke, and did more than anyone thought he would. Of course, Osama was no joke when he destroyed the Twin Towers.
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Well the same nonsense of being willing to get involved in a nuclear war and losing a large percent of their population was claimed by the USSR and the China at one point and somehow we did not launch a full scale attack on either and history would seem to show this was a wise thing not to do.

Yes sometime it is wise to take a risk that someone is just mouthing off and being prepare for war if he is not just mouthing off.

When Hitler begin to move on his neighbors was the time to react not before and the failing here was that the West did not react then not that they should had gone to war sooner.

Yup, who can forget that threat "we will bury you!"

Yup, who can forget that threat "we will bury you!"
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What is amusing is that the son of the man you quoted is a now a US citizen!