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@Foofie,

There is no proof a) there is a god, and b) it's a very silly conclusion to make under any circumstance. Many of those Palestinians lived on the same land for generations with property rights until the Jews stole it to expand their settlements - with guns and tanks, and their so-called "legal" system.

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@cicerone imposter,

The vast bulk of land settled in the WB was uninhabited, certainly not titled to anyone. Also, the Pals would try to kill Jewish travelers in the WB, forcing the settlers to construct security roads and a fence.

The Pals could have had it all at the beginning when the area was partitioned. However, the Arab countries made certain that the Pals would instead remain a force dedicated to destroy the nation of Israel, which force would not have a separate country.

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@Advocate,

Advocate, Do your homework before you make claims about "uninhabited." Uninhabited doesn't mean not owned.

You seem so blinded by your pro-Israel stance that facts just gets in your way.

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@Advocate,

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The vast bulk of land settled in the WB was uninhabited,

I hereby give notice that I forever lay claim to vast swaths of Idaho, Alaska, Washington, California, Hawaii, Arizona, New Mexico and other such portions of the USA that are uninhabited.

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Netanyahu defies Obama with harsh conditions for Palestinian 'entity'

“I do not wish to build new settlements or to confiscate lands to that end, but we have to allow the residents of the settlements to live normal lives,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6498930.ece

What a dickhead! With that kind of an attitude, Israel will never see peace. Living for centuries under a cloud of impending doom can't be all that healthy for a peoples' psyche.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

There is no proof a) there is a god, and b) it's a very silly conclusion to make under any circumstance.

There is no proof that there is no God!

There is no proof that there is a God!

Odds are there is a God!

What is the probability that there is no God?

What is the probability that the evolution of humans was caused by chance and not by design?

What is the probability that the evolution of humans from their alleged common ancestor with the mouse was caused by chance and not by design?

(1) The probability that the evolution of humans from their alleged common ancestor with the mouse was caused by chance is one divided by ten followed by more than one-million zeros (i.e., less than 10^-1,000,000).

(2) The probability that the evolution of humans from their alleged common ancestor with the mouse was caused by design is greater than one minus one divided by ten followed by more than one-million zeros (i.e., more than 1 - {10^-1,000,000}).

(1) is a very small probability! It requires a huge amount of faith to believe that the evolution of humans from their alleged common ancestor with the mouse was caused by chance.

(2) is a very large, almost certain, probability! It requires only a tiny amount of faith to believe that the evolution of humans from their alleged common ancestor with the mouse was caused by design.

I bet human evolution was caused by design. I simply lack the huge amount of faith to believe that the evolution of humans from their alleged common ancestor with the mouse was caused by chance.

If human evolution was caused by design, then there must have existed a designer. I bet that designer continues to exist to influence the results of his/her/its design. I call that designer, God!

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@ican711nm,

ican, Go back to school and study some logic.

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Suffering Christ, Ican is here. Abandon hope.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

ican, Go back to school and study some logic.

Cicerone imposter, Thank you for your admission via your non-rebuttal, that you need to go back to school to study some logic.

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@ican711nm,

What "you" believe has nothing to do with logic.

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@cicerone imposter,

What you, cicerone imposter, believe has nothing to do with logic.

Let P = the probability that God does not exist.

Then 1 - P = the probability God does exist.

As I previously have stated: P = less than 10^-1,000,000.

Therefore, 1-P = 1 - {10^-1,000,000} which almost equals a probability of 1, or is almost certain.

FACT 1: Mouse DNA does not have 300 of the genes contained in human DNA.

FACT 2: Each of these 300 human genes have millions of different parts and/or configurations that determine the form and nature of humans.

FACT 3: The total number of random mutations, occurring at the rate of even a trillion per second, that are required to generate these 300 genes, is almost certainly far too large to be accomplishedt within 5 billion years, let alone the 800 million years during which these mutations allegedly occurred.

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@ican711nm,

ican, When you use numbers in probability, you must have some basis that represents the numbers. You just can't take any number out of the air and say, the probability of XXX is "your number taken out of the air."

It's evident you have no foundation in statistics or logic.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

ican, When you use numbers in probability, you must have some basis that represents the numbers. You just can't take any number out of the air and say, the probability of XXX is "your number taken out of the air."

I agree!

cicerone imposter wrote:

It's evident you have no foundation in statistics or logic.

I disagree!

My recent posts on the probability of evolution by designed mutations versus evolution by random mutations were a summary of technical data and calculations I posted a few years ago.

Yes, I could go back and retrieve those posts, but your propensity to slander me rather than make rational rebuttals, convinces me that my retrieval of those posts would be a waste of my time.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

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Netanyahu defies Obama with harsh conditions for Palestinian 'entity'

“I do not wish to build new settlements or to confiscate lands to that end, but we have to allow the residents of the settlements to live normal lives,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6498930.ece

What a dickhead! With that kind of an attitude, Israel will never see peace. Living for centuries under a cloud of impending doom can't be all that healthy for a peoples' psyche.

Better no peace than go back to the ghettoization of Jews, a la Europe for the past centuries.

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@Foofie,

Yup, blame the Palestinians for how Jews were treated in Europe. Makes a whole lot of sense - for Foofie.

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@Foofie,

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Better no peace than go back to the ghettoization of Jews, a la Europe for the past centuries.

Seems to me that the Israeli state has reversed the roles, with the Palestinians being the dispossessed and the oppressed.

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@Foofie,

Another foofieism.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

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Better no peace than go back to the ghettoization of Jews, a la Europe for the past centuries.

Seems to me that the Israeli state has reversed the roles, with the Palestinians being the dispossessed and the oppressed.

A ghetto means that regardless of the size of the population, the physical space allocated to the ghetto never increases. That is what is happening now.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

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Better no peace than go back to the ghettoization of Jews, a la Europe for the past centuries.

Seems to me that the Israeli state has reversed the roles, with the Palestinians being the dispossessed and the oppressed.

You have ignored my point, or if you feel it is too trivial to address, may Santa bring you a big lump of black coal. You are talking from a position of "belonging" in the UK, according to history, in my opinion.

You are wrong, since MOST of Europe had ghettos (where Jews were in greater number), while the Palestineans are a large percentage of Jordan, and other Middle Eastern countries, so no one is putting them in a ghetto, so their numbers cannot increase. And, in all other Middle Eastern countries, Palestinean Muslims can practice their religion correctly, and easily. Is it so easy for a religious Jew to practice Judaism in Anglican England, without realizing his/her Jewish religion is only a guest in an Anglican England? You added apples to oranges. Do correct maths! That is why Israel is needed, so Jews that want to practice Judaism do not have to eat tuna fish sandwiches when out and about.

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@Foofie,

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You have ignored my point, or if you feel it is too trivial to address,

It's too foofie to address.

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