ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

Yup, blame the Palestinians for how Jews were treated in Europe. Makes a whole lot of sense - for Foofie.

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You have ignored my point, or if you feel it is too trivial to address,

It's too foofie to address.

LIBERTY AND TYRANNY
BY MARK R. LEVIN
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The Modern Liberal believes in the supremacy of the state, thereby rejecting the principles of the Declaration and the order of the civil society, in whole or part. For the Modern Liberal, the individual’s imperfection and personal pursuits impede the objective of a utopian state. In this, Modern Liberalism promotes what French historian Alexis de Tocquerville described as a soft tyranny, which becomes increasingly more oppressive, potentially leading to a hard tyranny (some form of totalitarianism). As the word liberal is, in its classical meaning, the opposite of authoritarian, it is more accurate, therefore, to characterize the Modern Liberal as a Statist.

The Founders understood that the greatest threat to liberty is an all-powerful government, where the few dictate to the many.

Re: ican711nm (Post 3694864)
Your point is obscure to me. Can you simplify your thoughts?

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As the word liberal is, in its classical meaning, the opposite of authoritarian, it is more accurate, therefore, to characterize the Modern Liberal as a Statist.

It's obscure because it's all a heaping pile of bullshit. Itry is going to have a heart attack with all the shoveling he's

You're falling into the trap of trying to analyse an Ican post. It's not possible to do that, with any hope of beneficial outcome. In fact if Ican and OmSigDavid could be locked together in a strong room, without internet access, and without limit of time, think how much better it would be.

... In fact if Ican and OmSigDavid could be locked together in a strong room, without internet access, and without limit of time, think how much better it would be.

I think the word you'reaching for is libel. Slander is purely verbal.

My bons mots are neither, of course.

http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/unabridged?va=slander&x=32&y=6
Main Entry: 1slan·der
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1 : utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage reputation
2 : a false tale or report maliciously uttered orally, tending to injure the reputation of another, and constituting a legal tort : a malicious oral utterance of false defamatory reports : malicious publication by speech of false tales or suggestions to the injury of another -- compare LIBEL
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http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/unabridged?va=libel&x=22&y=10
Main Entry: 1li·bel
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1 a obsolete : a written declaration, bill, certificate, request, or supplication b : the written statement made in civil law and admiralty law practice and in proceedings in ecclesiastical and occasionally other courts by the plaintiff of his cause of action and the relief he seeks -- compare DECLARATION c Scots law : the part of an indictment stating the grounds of the charge d Scots law, archaic : the punishment attached to an offense
2 obsolete : a brief piece of writing (as a little book or short treatise)
3 a archaic : a handbill or circular especially attacking or defaming someone b (1) : a written or oral defamatory statement or a representation or suggestion that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression <his criticism was a libel of the writer> <the photograph is more a libel than a reproduction> (2) : a statement or representation published without just cause or excuse, expressed either in print or in writing or by pictures, effigies, or other signs and tending to expose another to public hatred, contempt, or ridicule : defamation of a person by means of written statements, pictures, or other visible signs : the publication of such writings or pictures as are of a blasphemous, treasonable, seditious, or obscene character
-- compare PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION 2, SLANDER (3) : the act, tort, or crime of publishing such a libel

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slan⋅der  /ˈslændər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [slan-der] Show IPA
Use slandered in a Sentence
"noun 1. defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander.
2. a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.
3. Law. defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc.

"verb (used with object) 4. to utter slander against; defame.

"verb (used without object) 5. to utter or circulate slander.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slandered

Merriam-Webster
Main Entry: 1li·bel
Pronunciation: \ˈlī-bəl\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, written declaration, from Anglo-French, from Latin libellus, diminutive of liber book
Date: 14th century
1 a: a written statement in which a plaintiff in certain courts sets forth the cause of action or the relief sought barchaic : a handbill especially attacking or defaming someone
2 a: a written or oral defamatory statement or representation that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression b (1): a statement or representation published without just cause and tending to expose another to public contempt (2): defamation of a person by written or representational means (3): the publication of blasphemous, treasonable, seditious, or obscene writings or pictures (4): the act, tort, or crime of publishing such a libel
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/libel

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libel
Noun
1. Law the publication of something false which damages a person's reputation
2. any damaging or unflattering representation or statement

July 5, 2009
Saudis give nod to Israeli raid on IranUzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv and Sarah Baxter

The head of Mossad, Israel’s overseas intelligence service, has assured Benjamin Netanyahu, its prime minister, that Saudi Arabia would turn a blind eye to Israeli jets flying over the kingdom during any future raid on Iran’s nuclear sites.

Earlier this year Meir Dagan, Mossad’s director since 2002, held secret talks with Saudi officials to discuss the possibility.

The Israeli press has already carried unconfirmed reports that high-ranking officials, including Ehud Olmert, the former prime minister, held meetings with Saudi colleagues. The reports were denied by Saudi officials.

“The Saudis have tacitly agreed to the Israeli air force flying through their airspace on a mission which is supposed to be in the common interests of both Israel and Saudi Arabia,” a diplomatic source said last week.

Although the countries have no formal diplomatic relations, an Israeli defence source confirmed that Mossad maintained “working relations” with the Saudis.

John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations who recently visited the Gulf, said it was “entirely logical” for the Israelis to use Saudi airspace.

Bolton, who has talked to several Arab leaders, added: “None of them would say anything about it publicly but they would certainly acquiesce in an overflight if the Israelis didn’t trumpet it as a big success.”

Arab states would condemn a raid when they spoke at the UN but would be privately relieved to see the threat of an Iranian bomb removed, he said.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6638568.ece

Saudis give nod to Israeli raid on IranUzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv and Sarah Baxter [/size]

The head of Mossad, Israel’s overseas intelligence service, has assured Benjamin Netanyahu, its prime minister, that Saudi Arabia would turn a blind eye to Israeli jets flying over the kingdom during any future raid on Iran’s nuclear sites.

Earlier this year Meir Dagan, Mossad’s director since 2002, held secret talks with Saudi officials to discuss the possibility.

Der Kopf von Mossad, Israels Übersee Intelligenzdienst, hat Benjamin Netanyahu, sein Premierminister, beruhigt, den Saudi-Arabien ein blindes Auge zu israelischen Düsenflugzeugen drehen würde, die über das Königreich während jedes künftigen Überfalles auf Irans nukleare Stellen fliegen.

Früher hielt dieser Jahr Meir Dagan, Mossad's Direktor seit 2002, Geheimnisgesprächen mit Saudiaraber Beamte, um die Möglichkeit zu besprechen.

Die israelische Presse hat schon unbestätigte Berichte getragen, daß hochrangige Beamte, einschließlich Ehud Olmert, der ehemalige Premierminister, hielten Treffen mit Saudiaraber Kollegen. Die Berichte wurden Beamte von Saudiaraber bestritten.

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