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You are so dishonest when you describe Israel and its actions. Israel doesn't target innocents and you know it. Nor does it discriminate as the Muslim Pals do with respect Christian Pals, et al.

Re: JTT (Post 3685566)
I never heard of an Israeli going into a Palestinian store and blowing himself or herself up while killing other innocents.

Of course they do. Practically the only one who thinks they don't, is you. Israel makes a regular practice of killing innocents under the thinnest of pretenses; how hard is it to claim that 'I saw the fire coming from over there,' and then you blow up a building full of innocents? Easy.



You are correct; they discriminate against all non-Jews pretty equally.

Cycloptichorn

Why blow themselves up when they have tanks, mortars, fighter planes and guns?

Are you aware of how many innocent Palestinians have been killed by the Israelis? Compare those numbers to the "killer" Palestinians who blow themselves up to kill Israelis. No contest if you want to discuss innocents killed.

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1 Reply report Tue 23 Jun, 2009 03:56 pm Re: cicerone imposter (Post 3685543)
You are so dishonest when you describe Israel and its actions. Israel doesn't target innocents and you know it. Nor does it discriminate as the Muslim Pals do with respect Christian Pals, et al.

Gaza Strip " A crude rocket fired by Palestinian militants fell short of its target in Israel on Friday, striking a house in the northern Gaza Strip and killing two schoolgirls.

The attack came as Israel sent mixed signals over its plans to respond to continuing Palestinian rocket fire. Israeli defense officials say politicians have approved a large-scale incursion into the territory once rainy conditions clear. But at the same time, Israel appeared receptive to international pressure against an invasion, opening the Gaza border Friday to allow in deliveries of humanitarian aid.

None of Gaza's militant factions claimed responsibility for the deadly attack on the house in Beit Lahiya. Gaza Health Ministry official Dr. Moiaya Hassanain said the two victims, ages 5 and 12, were cousins. Three other children were wounded, he said.[...]

Ben-Eliezer echoed the message Prime Minister Ehud Olmert tried to deliver a day earlier in an interview with the Arabic language Al-Arabiya TV station: that Gaza's Islamic Hamas militant rulers were to blame for the suffering in Gaza, home to 1.4 million Palestinians.

But, as with similar cases involving unintended civilian casualties in the past, there were no immediate signs of backlash against the militants after the girls' death...

Interesting Rasmussen Poll this week:

Foxie, How many Americans do you really think understands what's going on in Israel? Would they say the same if they knew that Palestinian lands are being stolen to grow the Jewish settlements and their freedoms are practically non-existent?

What freedoms are being denied?

Okay, let's be fair here. If Israel is going to give the Pals a contiguous and viable country, the Palestinians must recognize their right to exist.

Cycloptichorn

Au contraire. Israel has a universal draft that includes women. All recruits get dirty, since one has to learn how to fire a weapon from the prone position. What country would draft women, unless the country needed every person to help defend the country against neighbors historically obsessed with its demise?

Perhaps, some on the forum believe that it is quite normal to draft women, so a country can survive? For that indignity alone, I have little compassion for Israel's neighbors. Oh, I forgot; Jews do not have the privilege of being indignant in a world where anti-Semitism is just part of the popular culture! And, people wonder why Jews may not always be friendly to all Gentiles.

Sure. Let each state recognize the other as a start to normal relations. The whole "right to exist" demand is kind of irrelevant. The PA has already recognized their right to exist in the Camp David talks, and Israel has yet to define her borders so one might ask: right to exist where? I wouldn't insist that you recognize my right to exist in your house. That would be silly and you would never agree to it, but I could then go around telling everyone that you are such an extreme crazy that you won't even recognize my right to exist.

I think that if we place a precondition on talks that says the Palestinians must recognize Israel's right to exist then we must also place a precondition on Israel that they must recognize the rights of the Palestinians to their own sovereignty and self determination.

As a private citizen, I have the constitutional right to pursue happiness and not associate with every dumb Gentile that thinks he/she is ever so bright/clever/witty. Please do not disenfranchise me from my constitutional rights as a private citizen. I prefer my Gentiles educated, and cosmopolitan; preferably born and raised on the east coast. It is not Gentiles I am concerned about, but the hickiness that Gentiles have devolved to in other parts of the country. That can even include Jews, from my experience.

You contradict yourself; you talk about Gentiles, then tell us Jews can also be not as bright as you.

Your self-aggrandizement is laughable at best, but I see you as the worst kind of racial bigot who believes only Jews are the only smart ones on this planet.

Right-Foofie. Jews cannot be as smart as Asians. Asians are the smartest. Even though Jews have won the largest share of the Nobel Prizes in the Twentieth Century, Asians are still smartest.

In reality, Asians as a group, because of their culture, are very well equppied to succeed in society but anyone who studies the contributions of a rather small group(Jews at 11,000,000 in the world) knows that Jews are very very bright especially when demographics are considered.

Consider the following:

~The proportion of Jews with IQ’s of 140 or more is estimated to be about six times the proportion of any other ethnic group.

~ Although Jews constitute only about two-tenths of one percent of the world’s population, Jews won 29 percent of the Nobel Prizes in literature, medicine, physics and chemistry in the second half of the 20th century. So far this century, the figure is 32 percent. And these Jews of whom we speak were almost exclusively male Jews primarily of western European ancestry (less than one-tenth of one percent of the world’s population), in spite of pervasive discrimination, numerous legal barriers, frequent persecution, and the Holocaust.

~From 1870 until 1950, Jewish leadership in such fields as literature, music, visual arts, biology, chemistry, physics, mathematics, and philosophy equaled somewhere from four to fourteen times the Jewish proportion of the population in Europe and North America.

~In 1954, 28 children in the New York City public school system were found to have IQ’s of 170 or higher " 24 of these were Jewish

Cicerone thinks Asians can't be bigots? absurd!!

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In this computer screen image taken from the Google Earth software, a feudal map of a village in central Japan from hundreds of years ago, superimposed on a modern street map, is shown. The village is clearly labeled "eta," an old word for Japan's outclass of untouchables known as "burakumin." The word literally means "filthy mass" and is now considered to be a racial slur. The burakumin still face prejudice based on where they live or their ancestors lived, and fear that Google's software can be used to easily pinpoint the old villages and match them up with modern neighborhoods. (AP Photo/Google Earth)
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Share Print CommentsTOKYO " When Google Earth added historical maps of Japan to its online collection last year, the search giant didn't expect a backlash. The finely detailed woodblock prints have been around for centuries, they were already posted on another Web site, and a historical map of Tokyo put up in 2006 hadn't caused any problems.

But Google failed to judge how its offering would be received, as it has often done in Japan. The company is now facing inquiries from the Justice Ministry and angry accusations of prejudice because its maps detailed the locations of former low-caste communities.

The maps date back to the country's feudal era, when shoguns ruled and a strict caste system was in place. At the bottom of the hierarchy were a class called the "burakumin," ethnically identical to other Japanese but forced to live in isolation because they did jobs associated with death, such as working with leather, butchering animals and digging graves.

Castes have long since been abolished, and the old buraku villages have largely faded away or been swallowed by Japan's sprawling metropolises. Today, rights groups say the descendants of burakumin make up about 3 million of the country's 127 million people.

But they still face prejudice, based almost entirely on where they live or their ancestors lived. Moving is little help, because employers or parents of potential spouses can hire agencies to check for buraku ancestry through Japan's elaborate family records, which can span back over a hundred years.

An employee at a large, well-known Japanese company, who works in personnel and has direct knowledge of its hiring practices, said the company actively screens out burakumin job seekers.

"If we suspect that an applicant is a burakumin, we always do a background check to find out," she said. She agreed to discuss the practice only on condition that neither she nor her company be identified.

Lists of "dirty" addresses circulate on Internet bulletin boards. Some surveys have shown that such neighborhoods have lower property values than surrounding areas, and residents have been the target of racial taunts and graffiti. But the modern locations of the old villages are largely unknown to the general public, and many burakumin prefer it that way.

Foxfyre wrote:
Interesting Rasmussen Poll this week:

Quote:
81% Say Palestinians Must Recognize Israel’s Right To Exist As Part of Any Peace Agreement
Tuesday, June 23, 2009

Eighty-one percent (81%) of U.S. voters agree with Israeli President Benjamin Netanhyahu that Palestinian leaders must recognize Israel’s right to exist as part of a Middle Eastern peace agreement.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just seven percent (7%) disagree and say this should not be a requirement for a peace agreement. Twelve percent (12%) are not sure.

But only 27% believe it is even somewhat likely that Palestinian leaders will make such a concession. Only six percent (6%) say it is very likely.

Voters feel slightly less strongly about requiring Israel to accept the creation of a Palestinian state, something Netanyahu reluctantly favors only if it is demilitarized. Fifty-seven percent (57%) say Israel should be required to do so as part of a Middle Eastern peace agreement, and just 20% disagree. But 22% are undecided.

American voters are evenly divided as to whether or not Israel is likely to accept a Palestinian State.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics2/june_2009/81_say_palestinians_must_recognize_israel_s_right_to_exist_as_part_of_any_peace_agreement

Gaza Strip " A crude rocket fired by Palestinian militants fell short of its target in Israel on Friday, striking a house in the northern Gaza Strip and killing two schoolgirls.

The attack came as Israel sent mixed signals over its plans to respond to continuing Palestinian rocket fire. Israeli defense officials say politicians have approved a large-scale incursion into the territory once rainy conditions clear. But at the same time, Israel appeared receptive to international pressure against an invasion, opening the Gaza border Friday to allow in deliveries of humanitarian aid.

None of Gaza's militant factions claimed responsibility for the deadly attack on the house in Beit Lahiya. Gaza Health Ministry official Dr. Moiaya Hassanain said the two victims, ages 5 and 12, were cousins. Three other children were wounded, he said.[...]

Ben-Eliezer echoed the message Prime Minister Ehud Olmert tried to deliver a day earlier in an interview with the Arabic language Al-Arabiya TV station: that Gaza's Islamic Hamas militant rulers were to blame for the suffering in Gaza, home to 1.4 million Palestinians.

But, as with similar cases involving unintended civilian casualties in the past, there were no immediate signs of backlash against the militants after the girls' death...

Stop your pathetic whining and get your facts straight, Foofie. You've shown yourself to be a person who embraces ignorance with a tenacity that is hard to imagine.

Oooooorrrr just keep launching those foofies. Whatever turns your crank?