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ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

 
 
genoves
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 01:27 am
@georgeob1,
George- I do not know how many read my posts. Some do since I do have some interactions with posters. Others do not. Some, I do believe, fear to interact with me since I have,at times, made some of them look silly.

But, I must crib from one of my favorite playrights to answer your question fully, George.

"Never to make a line I have not heard in my own heart: yet, with all modesty To say: "My soul, be satisfied with flowers, With fruit, with weeds even; but gather them in the one garden you may call your own"

As for the rest of my time, George, I think you are prying into my personal business. But, since I have enjoyed most of your posts in the past, I will respond in part.

I read; I clip coupons; I contact my business partners: I visit my grandchildren and friends. I spent most of April in Europe.

Cheers- George!
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genoves
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 01:31 am
McTag wrote:

But we're not talking about Jews here, but about the actions of the state of Israel.
end of quote
Yes, McTag, a good point, however, as you may have noted, some have chosen to attack Jews as a people. That, of course, demands a response.

And as for the actions of the state of Israel, I must give ONE reason for my defense of Israeli Actions.

THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND>

I would not shed any tears if the Israelis bombed the Iranian Nuclear sites.
I have not forgotten how the savages in Iran held American citizens hostage.
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 09:08 am
It seems absurd to me. Israel will free a Hamas leader in a timely manner, irrespective that Hamas continues to hold Pvt. Shalit who they kidnapped.


Israel to free Hamas parliament speaker
21 hours ago

RAMALLAH, West Bank (AFP) " The detained Hamas speaker of the Palestinian parliament is to be released after an Israeli military tribunal refused to keep him behind bars beyond his sentence, his lawyer said Wednesday.

The court at the Ofer military base near Ramallah in the occupied West Bank rejected an application by prosecutors to keep Aziz Dweik behind bars after his three-year sentence ran out, his attorney Fadi Qawasmeh told AFP.

"The rejection means that he can't be detained for more than 48 hours," Qawasmeh said. "I expect him to be freed within the coming hours."

His actual release may not come before Sunday as Friday marks the start of the Jewish weekend when by convention court orders are not served.

An army spokesman confirmed that the court rejected the appeal and that Dweik will be released when he completes his three-year sentence.

Israeli prison service spokesman Yaron Zamir said that Dweik was to be released "next week" before the end of his full sentence in August due to administrative reasons.

Dweik was elected speaker in February 2006, a month after Hamas swept Palestinian parliamentary elections in a surprise rout of the long dominant Fatah party of president Mahmud Abbas.

He was arrested by Israeli security forces at his Ramallah home in August 2006 amid a West Bank crackdown on Hamas in which more than 60 elected officials were detained, including a third of the then government and more than two dozen MPs.

Some were later released, but at least 35 remain in custody.

The crackdown came after Hamas and other Gaza militants seized Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in a deadly cross-border raid in June 2006. He remains in captivity to this day.

In December 2008, an Israeli military court sentenced Dweik to three years in prison -- including the 28 months he had already served -- for membership of Hamas, which Israel like the European Union and the United States blacklists as a terror group.
Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 11:46 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

genoves,

You are certainly a prodigous poster here. What do you do with the rest of your time? Do you believe that many here read your stuff?


Uh, oh. I think I should mention all the great accomplishments of the Irish at this juncture. I believe the greatest accomplishments of specific Irishmen were in being germane to the establishment of several South American countries as sovereign countries (from Spain). Also, they were instrumental in building the American Catholic Church. That being said, if one does not like Genoves' perspective, since it might not mesh with one's own perspective, then it might be time to question how many folks read one's own epistles on the thread, since they are fairly predictable, in my opinion.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 12:02 pm
@genoves,
Quote:
I have not forgotten how the savages in Iran held American citizens hostage.


Those people were pikers compared to the government of the USA. They held American citizens in containment camps simply on the basis of racism.

In Iran, they supported a dictator who tortured and murdered his own citizens.

They supported Saddam against Iran, [duplicitous much] including the use of chemical weapons, which they constantly whine about; have I mentioned their duplicity?

The list is endless. For a long list of savagery, one only has to look at American foreign policy. I believe that you partook of some of this savagery yourself, G, in Vietnam. Care to recount some of your highlights.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 12:03 pm
@Advocate,
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which Israel like the European Union and the United States blacklists as a terror group.


Wow, three pots calling others black.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 01:19 pm
@JTT,
All three countries are made from teflon; they think **** doesn't stick on themselves - even though they have been the biggest war-mongers in modern times.
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 04:17 pm
@JTT,
An incredibly huge thing in Iran is the fact that the USA deposed a democratically-elected prime minister (Mossadegh), and then installed a puppet king-dictator.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 04:18 pm
@JTT,
You are more of a pot than Israel. I wager you look like a pot.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 04:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Israel loves to defend itself. To CI, that makes it a war mongerer.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 06:25 pm
@Advocate,
No; Israel has enough military hardware to be the aggressor nation - including nukes. They have killed more innocent Palestinians through the use of their weapons against a defenseless populace - justifying the killing by using their canard of "self-defense." The most recent atrocities perpetrated against the Palestinians was in Gaza where Israel soldiers intentionally killed women and children.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jun, 2009 06:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Israeli Shells Kill 40 at Gaza U.N. School
Ismail Zaydah/Reuters

By TAGHREED EL-KHODARY and ISABEL KERSHNER
Published: January 6, 2009

GAZA " Israeli mortar shells killed as many as 40 Palestinians, among them women and children, outside a United Nations school in Gaza on Tuesday where they were taking refuge in the 11th day of the conflict. The Israeli military contended that Hamas fighters had fired mortars from the school compound, and United Nations officials called for an independent inquiry into the episode.
Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2009 10:09 am
@cicerone imposter,
You just can't help lying. Israel, in contrast with the Pals, has never targeted civilians. Hamas used civilians as shields, and is responsible for their deaths. As for attacking Gaza, I guess Israel thought that 8,000 rockets was enough. Duh!

Btw, how do you figure that Israel is a war mongerer? That is just another big lie (you lying bastard).
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2009 10:46 am
@Advocate,
So it's okay to kill innocent women and children?
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2009 11:31 am
@Advocate,

This is wrong.
Israel has frequently targeted civilians, both singly and collectively.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2009 11:50 am
@McTag,
These Israel apologists live in a dream world where Jews can do no wrong.

Everything has an "excuse." They're trying to rationalize the killing of innocent women and children goes beyond humanity and common sense.
Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2009 07:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

These Israel apologists live in a dream world where Jews can do no wrong.

Everything has an "excuse." They're trying to rationalize the killing of innocent women and children goes beyond humanity and common sense.


I thought the innocent women and children that get killed are considered collateral damage, since the rockets are launched from where civilians live.

Sort of like when the U.S. drones send a missile into an enemy stronghold.

Your point above, is not correct ("These Israel apologists live in a dream world where Jews can do no wrong.), I believe. It should say that anti-Zionists hold the Israelis to a standard of warfare that no other nation has to be kept to. It is the usual double standard that Jews should do no wrong, even if the rest of the world does wrong.

What the anti-Zionists are having a hard time learning is that the landless Jews of the last two-thousand years must now act like any Gentile nation to survive one's enemies. Anti-Zionists should actually be happy that Jews cannot now claim the moral high-ground as the perennial victim. In effect, Jews have learned how to be as murderous as Gentiles. Gentiles have finally converted Jews to their mindset. They should be happy.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jun, 2009 08:17 pm
@Foofie,
See!
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genoves
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2009 01:13 am
Re: cicerone imposter (Post 3681709)
cicerone imposter wrote:

These Israel apologists live in a dream world where Jews can do no wrong.

Everything has an "excuse." They're trying to rationalize the killing of innocent women and children goes beyond humanity and common sense.


I thought the innocent women and children that get killed are considered collateral damage, since the rockets are launched from where civilians live.

Sort of like when the U.S. drones send a missile into an enemy stronghold.

Your point above, is not correct ("These Israel apologists live in a dream world where Jews can do no wrong.), I believe. It should say that anti-Zionists hold the Israelis to a standard of warfare that no other nation has to be kept to. It is the usual double standard that Jews should do no wrong, even if the rest of the world does wrong.

What the anti-Zionists are having a hard time learning is that the landless Jews of the last two-thousand years must now act like any Gentile nation to survive one's enemies. Anti-Zionists should actually be happy that Jews cannot now claim the moral high-ground as the perennial victim. In effect, Jews have learned how to be as murderous as Gentiles. Gentiles have finally converted Jews to their mindset. They should be happy.
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genoves
 
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Reply Sat 20 Jun, 2009 01:14 am
Advocate wrote:

Re: cicerone imposter (Post 3680965)
You just can't help lying. Israel, in contrast with the Pals, has never targeted civilians. Hamas used civilians as shields, and is responsible for their deaths. As for attacking Gaza, I guess Israel thought that 8,000 rockets was enough. Duh!

Btw, how do you figure that Israel is a war mongerer? That is just another big lie (you lying bastard).
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