ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

Foofie wrote:

Show us?

Please shush!

My God C I. Next you are going to try to claim we are decended from apes!

Asians do very well because of their cultural background. But the Japanese sneak attacked the USA and tortured thousands of Americans in the concentration camps. the Jews never did that. Other Asians have done well also but, until now they do not begin to match the number of Jews who have earned nobel prizes!

Foofie wrote:


But, I believe unless there is a constant flow of Asian immigrants into the U.S., Asians will be intermarried with mostly Caucasians before we see the next one or two centuries. They do not have "dominant" genes; therefore, a la Eurasians, the future generations of intermarried descendants will look like plain Western Europeans. In my own opinion, Asians will function like a B-12 shot to the American gene pool's intelligence. Perhaps, they will also cure the obesity epidemic we hear about?

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Exactly--and that is the same thing that is happening right now to Hispanics.
Hispanics are classed ETHNICALLY. Hispanics who are not racially black are classed under Caucasian(look it up under the Census Bureau information).

At this time, MORE than 50% of Hispanics marry non-Hispanics if those Hispanics are at least in the third generation.

So, as Foofie says, Asians will be intermarried with Caucasians.
Hispanics will also be married with Caucasians.

In the second decade of the last century,the Congress of the United States cut the number of immigrants admitted to a small number. Those who had been in the USA for years objected to what some called people unfit to live in the USA and perhaps intermarry--Greeks, Poles, Italians, Russians.

Now most of those groups have intermarried.

Foofie is correct.

Note:

Another factor in the growth of the Hispanic population that has received less study is the role of marriage between Hispanics and non-Hispanics and the propensity for children of intermarried Hispanics to identify as Hispanic. Intermarriage is an important factor in population change for racial and ethnic populations because the choice of racial and ethnic identification by children of racially or ethnically intermarried parents can significantly affect the relative sizes of different racial and ethnic populations as well as population characteristics (Edmonston, Lee, and Passel, 2002; Snipp, 1997). Previous research on Hispanic intermarriage suggests that intermarriage between Hispanics and non-Hispanics is higher than racial intermarriage between whites and blacks, the two largest racial populations, but lower than intermarriage between whites and smaller racial groups such as American Indians. In 2000, about 14 percent of Hispanics were intermarried, compared with 7 percent of blacks and 57 percent of American Indians (Lee and Edmonston, 2005). Certain characteristics are associated with higher intermarriage among Hispanics, such as younger age, higher education, metropolitan residence, and being born in the United States (Lee and Edmonston, 2005; Stevens and Tyler, 2002).

There is a fairly extensive research literature on Hispanic intermarriage and a growing body of research on the racial and Hispanic identification of children of intermarried couples (Qian, 2004; Xie and Goyette, 1997); however, less is known about the consequences of intermarriage on Hispanic population growth and change operating through the choice of Hispanic identity of children of intermarried Hispanics. (4) In an important paper on the growth of white ethnic populations in the United States, Hout and Goldstein (1994) described the contributions of natural increase, intermarriage, and ethnic preference in self-reported ethnicity on ethnic population growth. The authors noted that white ethnic groups, such as Irish and Italians, have experienced substantial growth because of relatively high rates of ethnic intermarriage and the propensity of individuals to identify themselves as Irish or Italian Americans. Hout and Goldstein (1994:79) conclude: "We will not be surprised if the various Hispanic groups follow the Italian pattern in years to come."

This article is a logical extension of previous work such as Hout and Goldstein's (1994). The purpose of this article is to demonstrate empirically the possible consequences of Hispanic intermarriage and Hispanic identification of children of intermarried Hispanics for the future size and composition of the Hispanic population. We begin by examining trends in Hispanic intermarriage and reported Hispanic identity of children of intermarried Hispanics. Findings on rates of Hispanic intermarriage and Hispanic identification of children of intermarried Hispanics are applied to a population projection model to the year 2025 to assess the impact on future Hispanic population growth and composition. We discuss implications of the findings for understanding Hispanic population change, the meaning of Hispanic ethnicity, and public policies related to race and ethnicity.

According to evolutionary studies, we are indeed descended from apes, however, the evolutionary line broke thousands of years ago, as did the evolutionary line from Africa.

Genes do change under the impact of environment.

Our DNA matches those of chimps by 98%. You can conclude anything you wish.

Thank God for that 2%.

It has nothing to do with god.

For unremitted ignorance, you certainly know few equals, Genoves.

genoves says: "According to evolutionary studies, we are indeed descended from apes, however, the evolutionary line broke thousands of years ago, as did the evolutionary line from Africa."
What is that supposed to mean, geno ves? How do evolutionary lines "break"? We and apes do have a common apelike ancestor. All of us today do most probably descend from African roots. Guess you're an African-American after all, genoves (tho a little too remote to count for governmental enumeration purposes).

The unanswered question is whether we today reflect a hybrid with Neanderthal. At least amongst those whose ancestors came from Europe.

Monterey Jack wrote:

1 Reply report Wed 17 Jun, 2009 12:21 pm genoves says: "According to evolutionary studies, we are indeed descended from apes, however, the evolutionary line broke thousands of years ago, as did the evolutionary line from Africa."
What is that supposed to mean, geno ves? How do evolutionary lines "break"? We and apes do have a common apelike ancestor. All of us today do most probably descend from African roots. Guess you're an African-American after all, genoves (tho a little too remote to count for governmental enumeration purposes).

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Well, MJ, at Berkeley, in 1967, reseachers constructed a molecular clock that measure the actual length of time since two species shared a common ancestor. They concluded that human beings had shared a common ancestor with great apes about 5 million years ago.

There is a great amount of confusion about the alleged 98.5 figure concerning human DNA as compared to Chimpanzee DNA.

Reserchers have shown that the 98.5 number is OFF BY A MILE. A researcher named Roy Brinton said that if you count only substitutions in the text that are different between human and Chimp genes you indeed get a figure of 98.5%. But if you then add in the textual insertions or deletions, the figure drops to 95 percent.

see Britten, R. J. 2002 Divergence between samples of chimpanzee and human DNA sequence is 5%,counting indels--Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 99:13633-5

Foofie wrote:


But, I believe unless there is a constant flow of Asian immigrants into the U.S., Asians will be intermarried with mostly Caucasians before we see the next one or two centuries. They do not have "dominant" genes; therefore, a la Eurasians, the future generations of intermarried descendants will look like plain Western Europeans. In my own opinion, Asians will function like a B-12 shot to the American gene pool's intelligence. Perhaps, they will also cure the obesity epidemic we hear about?

*****************************
Exactly--and that is the same thing that is happening right now to Hispanics.
Hispanics are classed ETHNICALLY. Hispanics who are not racially black are classed under Caucasian(look it up under the Census Bureau information).

At this time, MORE than 50% of Hispanics marry non-Hispanics if those Hispanics are at least in the third generation.

So, as Foofie says, Asians will be intermarried with Caucasians.
Hispanics will also be married with Caucasians.

In the second decade of the last century,the Congress of the United States cut the number of immigrants admitted to a small number. Those who had been in the USA for years objected to what some called people unfit to live in the USA and perhaps intermarry--Greeks, Poles, Italians, Russians.

Now most of those groups have intermarried.

Foofie is correct.

Note:

Another factor in the growth of the Hispanic population that has received less study is the role of marriage between Hispanics and non-Hispanics and the propensity for children of intermarried Hispanics to identify as Hispanic. Intermarriage is an important factor in population change for racial and ethnic populations because the choice of racial and ethnic identification by children of racially or ethnically intermarried parents can significantly affect the relative sizes of different racial and ethnic populations as well as population characteristics (Edmonston, Lee, and Passel, 2002; Snipp, 1997). Previous research on Hispanic intermarriage suggests that intermarriage between Hispanics and non-Hispanics is higher than racial intermarriage between whites and blacks, the two largest racial populations, but lower than intermarriage between whites and smaller racial groups such as American Indians. In 2000, about 14 percent of Hispanics were intermarried, compared with 7 percent of blacks and 57 percent of American Indians (Lee and Edmonston, 2005). Certain characteristics are associated with higher intermarriage among Hispanics, such as younger age, higher education, metropolitan residence, and being born in the United States (Lee and Edmonston, 2005; Stevens and Tyler, 2002).

There is a fairly extensive research literature on Hispanic intermarriage and a growing body of research on the racial and Hispanic identification of children of intermarried couples (Qian, 2004; Xie and Goyette, 1997); however, less is known about the consequences of intermarriage on Hispanic population growth and change operating through the choice of Hispanic identity of children of intermarried Hispanics. (4) In an important paper on the growth of white ethnic populations in the United States, Hout and Goldstein (1994) described the contributions of natural increase, intermarriage, and ethnic preference in self-reported ethnicity on ethnic population growth. The authors noted that white ethnic groups, such as Irish and Italians, have experienced substantial growth because of relatively high rates of ethnic intermarriage and the propensity of individuals to identify themselves as Irish or Italian Americans. Hout and Goldstein (1994:79) conclude: "We will not be surprised if the various Hispanic groups follow the Italian pattern in years to come."

This article is a logical extension of previous work such as Hout and Goldstein's (1994). The purpose of this article is to demonstrate empirically the possible consequences of Hispanic intermarriage and Hispanic identification of children of intermarried Hispanics for the future size and composition of the Hispanic population. We begin by examining trends in Hispanic intermarriage and reported Hispanic identity of children of intermarried Hispanics. Findings on rates of Hispanic intermarriage and Hispanic identification of children of intermarried Hispanics are applied to a population projection model to the year 2025 to assess the impact on future Hispanic population growth and composition. We discuss implications of the findings for understanding Hispanic population change, the meaning of Hispanic ethnicity, and public policies related to race and ethnicity.

I have met and worked with many Jews during my life time, but Foofie is the only one who believes Jews are special in intellect and industriousness.

Not the only one--Note:

Below is a table from" Human Accomplishment" by Charles Murray--p. 283

RATIO OF ACTUAL TO EXPECTED JEWISH NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS IN LITERATURE AND THE SCIENCES 1951-2000

SCIENCES--total 13:1

CHEMISTRY-10:1

MEDICINE---14-1

PHYSICS-----14-1

LITERATURE--7-1

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What this means is that Jews are overrepresented by thirteen times( in the Sciences total) one would expect viewing their numbers in the world.

Similarly, with the rest of the chart.

The Essay
"If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world's list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvellous fight in the world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?"

Mark Twain



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And who could disagree?

But we're not talking about Jews here, but about the actions of the state of Israel.

(I like Jon Stewart btw, Daniel Barenboim and Jackie Mason)

genoves,

You are certainly a prodigous poster here. What do you do with the rest of your time? Do you believe that many here read your stuff?