ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

Please. I'm not saying the arabs aren't aggressive. They are, very.

And you are very evasive. Slippery.

Come on Foxy and Ican't, your responses please. Tell us again how Israel is a victim of unwarranted arab aggression.

InfraBlue wrote:

Beginning in April of 1948 during the Civil War in Mandatory Palestine the Zionist forces engaged in Plan Dalet. . .

I do wonder about who wrote this and what their motives were.
The clue is that the writer refers to the "Zionist Forces", instead of "Israeli Forces".

To McTag: You did ask me to explain unwarranted Arab aggression against Israel. So I did.

Now, please tell me how Israel should deal with people who a) pledge to exterminate Israel and wipe it from the face of the Earth b) who hide their weapons among their own women and children c) who kidnap Israelis, torture and murder them, d) brainwash suicide bombers to blow up crowded Israeli markets and busses filled with mothers and school children e) constantly fire rockets into Israeli neighborhoods for the express purpose of killing or maiming any men, women, or children they manage to hit and making life intolerable for peaceful people living in those neighborhoods.

If you were Israel how would you handle it? They've tried giving the Arabs the land they demand and the Arabs use it to launch renewed terrorist attacks. They've tried coexisting peacefully with the Palestinians with the same results. They've tried negotiating peace with the Palestinians and it is always Palestinians who violate the peace.

So you're in charge of Israel. What do you do?

Meanwhile you might acknowledge that the Arabs are in fact guilty of unwarranted aggression against Israel as well as unconscionable cruelty toward, endangerment and neglect of their own people.

Foxfyre wrote:

To McTag: You did ask me to explain unwarranted Arab aggression against Israel. So I did.

Now, please tell me how Israel should deal with people who a) pledge to exterminate Israel and wipe it from the face of the Earth b) who hide their weapons among their own women and children c) who kidnap Israelis, torture and murder them, d) brainwash suicide bombers to blow up crowded Israeli markets and busses filled with mothers and school children e) constantly fire rockets into Israeli neighborhoods for the express purpose of killing or maiming any men, women, or children they manage to hit and making life intolerable for peaceful people living in those neighborhoods.

If you were Israel how would you handle it? They've tried giving the Arabs the land they demand and the Arabs use it to launch renewed terrorist attacks. They've tried coexisting peacefully with the Palestinians with the same results. They've tried negotiating peace with the Palestinians and it is always Palestinians who violate the peace.

So you're in charge of Israel. What do you do?

Meanwhile you might acknowledge that the Arabs are in fact guilty of unwarranted aggression against Israel as well as unconscionable cruelty toward, endangerment and neglect of their own people.

There are better brains than mine engaged in finding a solution to this problem. I will defer to them.

My point here is, the problem was created by the Zionists who seemingly thought that after the Holocaust, they could get away with doing whatever they wanted, and no-one in the world mattered but them.
They are reaping now the fruits of that policy.

I personally believe in the right of Israel to exist: to achieve that, and peace and stability so far as it's ever achievable now, they will have to make concessions which are hitherto unimaginable.
eg revert to the 1948 borders, and no scorched earth policy in the process.
That would bring most of the arabs onside.

European Parliament Vice-President Luisa Morgantini and the Irish Nobel laureate, Mairead Corrigan, have been injured at a protest in the West Bank.

An Italian judge, Julio Toscano, was also hurt when Israeli troops fired tear gas to disperse the demonstration against the West Bank barrier in Bilin.

He suffered head wounds when he was hit by one of the tear-gas canisters.

The incidents came on the last day of an international conference supporting local protests against the barrier.

In September, the Israeli Supreme Court ordered the government to redraw its route near Bilin, accepting an appeal by residents, who had argued it prevented them from reaching 50% of their agricultural land.

The International Court of Justice issued an advisory ruling in 2004 that the barrier breached international law where it is built on occupied Palestinian territory and should be dismantled.

Despite the supreme court's ruling last year, the Israeli authorities have not yet begun to implement it, meaning Bilin's residents continue to be prevented from accessing around 200 hectares (500 acres) of their farmland.
The international Conference on Non-violent Resistance held in the village over the past week sought to show solidarity with the continuing protests demanding the structure be dismantled. Ms Morgantini addressed its opening session.

On the last day of the meeting, 300 Israelis, Palestinians and foreign nationals participated in the village's weekly demonstration.

According to the protesters, dozens of people were hurt by the tear gas fired by Israeli troops deployed along the barrier, while several were also hit by canisters, including Mr Toscano. He was later taken to hospital in Ramallah.

I personally believe in the right of Israel to exist. . .

So you're in charge of Israel. What do you do?