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Just for a moment, let's remember there's another "beachfront property" where Jews live with non-Jews, yet get along very well for the past 49 years (actually somewhat longer) with their non-Jewish neighbors. Where? I'm glad you asked - Miami Beach/Miami.

Going back to the 1930's Miami hotels were "exclusive" (there were actually signs that said "Gentiles only"). So, by the 1950's, through the use of esoteric magic, Jews lived there as "the ethnic group."

Then the Cubans arrived; some even before 1959. And, when they arrived they got jobs in hotels Jews owned, and today those hotels have Cuban managers. Anyway, the point is these two groups have co-existed for about half-a-century quite amicably. It might have something to do with a Jewish Cuban community that got along with their Cuban neighbors in the pre-Castro Cuba. There's even a synagogue today in Havana.

I think in analyzing the Palestinian/Israeli problem some people tend to equate Israelis with a Jew anywhere. No. As soon as one says Jew, instead of Israeli, it can be perceived as anti-Semitic, since Jews elsewhere have an entire different orientation to their non-Jewish neighbors.

And, let's also give credit to Gentiles not being a monolithic mass of non-Jews. The Cubans in Miami are reknowned for their hard work, entrepreneurial spirit, and education. In effect, Cubans were a positive addition to the Miami area.

If the Palestinians ever get tired of the life in the Gaza Strip, and leave en masse, the area will likely become, in the words of many a real estate agent, gentrified.

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Actually once the Jews evolved from their more militant past, as have we all, Jews get along pretty well with everybody everywhere. Probably those Cubans and other non-Jews haven't been trying to blow up Jews in their synogogues, on busses, and in crowded markets and that does make for a more peaceful environment in Miami. Had the Palestinians taken that attitude and chosen to co-exist peacefully with the Jews instead of trying to exterminate them or drive them out, I think the Palestinians would have found the Jews to be excellent neighbors.

But what do I know?

Israel was forced by public pressure and UN resolutions to relinquish control of Gaza to the Palestinians and Egypt ...

Foxfyre wrote:

Israel was forced by public pressure and UN resolutions to relinquish control of Gaza to the Palestinians and Egypt ...

I must have missed that.

I'd thought that was reached in the "Oslo Accords", and din't refer at all to Egypt.

Yes, I misspoke there and intended to correct it and then forgot to do that. Egypt was not included in the Oslo accords. I have often wondered though why Egypt never demanded that control of Gaza be returned to Egypt.

Foxfyre wrote:

Yes, I misspoke there and intended to correct it and then forgot to do that. Egypt was not included in the Oslo accords. I have often wondered though why Egypt never demanded that control of Gaza be returned to Egypt.

Because of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty in 1979.

Foofie wrote:

Just for a moment, let's remember there's another "beachfront property" where Jews live with non-Jews, yet get along very well for the past 49 years (actually somewhat longer) with their non-Jewish neighbors. Where? I'm glad you asked - Miami Beach/Miami.

Going back to the 1930's Miami hotels were "exclusive" (there were actually signs that said "Gentiles only"). So, by the 1950's, through the use of esoteric magic, Jews lived there as "the ethnic group."

Then the Cubans arrived; some even before 1959. And, when they arrived they got jobs in hotels Jews owned, and today those hotels have Cuban managers. Anyway, the point is these two groups have co-existed for about half-a-century quite amicably. It might have something to do with a Jewish Cuban community that got along with their Cuban neighbors in the pre-Castro Cuba. There's even a synagogue today in Havana.

I think in analyzing the Palestinian/Israeli problem some people tend to equate Israelis with a Jew anywhere. No. As soon as one says Jew, instead of Israeli, it can be perceived as anti-Semitic, since Jews elsewhere have an entire different orientation to their non-Jewish neighbors.

And, let's also give credit to Gentiles not being a monolithic mass of non-Jews. The Cubans in Miami are reknowned for their hard work, entrepreneurial spirit, and education. In effect, Cubans were a positive addition to the Miami area.

If the Palestinians ever get tired of the life in the Gaza Strip, and leave en masse, the area will likely become, in the words of many a real estate agent, gentrified.

Actually once the Jews evolved from their more militant past, as have we all, Jews get along pretty well with everybody everywhere. Probably those Cubans and other non-Jews haven't been trying to blow up Jews in their synogogues, on busses, and in crowded markets and that does make for a more peaceful environment in Miami. Had the Palestinians taken that attitude and chosen to co-exist peacefully with the Jews instead of trying to exterminate them or drive them out, I think the Palestinians would have found the Jews to be excellent neighbors.

But what do I know?

Foxfyre wrote:

Foofie wrote:

Just for a moment, let's remember there's another "beachfront property" where Jews live with non-Jews, yet get along very well for the past 49 years (actually somewhat longer) with their non-Jewish neighbors. Where? I'm glad you asked - Miami Beach/Miami.

Going back to the 1930's Miami hotels were "exclusive" (there were actually signs that said "Gentiles only"). So, by the 1950's, through the use of esoteric magic, Jews lived there as "the ethnic group."

Then the Cubans arrived; some even before 1959. And, when they arrived they got jobs in hotels Jews owned, and today those hotels have Cuban managers. Anyway, the point is these two groups have co-existed for about half-a-century quite amicably. It might have something to do with a Jewish Cuban community that got along with their Cuban neighbors in the pre-Castro Cuba. There's even a synagogue today in Havana.

I think in analyzing the Palestinian/Israeli problem some people tend to equate Israelis with a Jew anywhere. No. As soon as one says Jew, instead of Israeli, it can be perceived as anti-Semitic, since Jews elsewhere have an entire different orientation to their non-Jewish neighbors.

And, let's also give credit to Gentiles not being a monolithic mass of non-Jews. The Cubans in Miami are reknowned for their hard work, entrepreneurial spirit, and education. In effect, Cubans were a positive addition to the Miami area.

If the Palestinians ever get tired of the life in the Gaza Strip, and leave en masse, the area will likely become, in the words of many a real estate agent, gentrified.

Actually once the Jews evolved from their more militant past, as have we all, Jews get along pretty well with everybody everywhere. Probably those Cubans and other non-Jews haven't been trying to blow up Jews in their synogogues, on busses, and in crowded markets and that does make for a more peaceful environment in Miami. Had the Palestinians taken that attitude and chosen to co-exist peacefully with the Jews instead of trying to exterminate them or drive them out, I think the Palestinians would have found the Jews to be excellent neighbors.

But what do I know?

Ud. sabe todo. Ud. habla la verdad.

Gracias mi amiga

Foxfyre wrote:

Gracias mi amiga

De nada, pero soy hombre. Siempre quiero practicar mis cinco anos de Espanol que tuve en mi escuela (muchos anos pasados). Nunca se hace faltas despues se aprende las reglas del idioma. No entiendo todo, pero bastante para ver La Fea Mas Bella cuando estaba en el televisor. Ahora, veo Doce Corazones. Un programa con mucho alegre.

Meanwhile it is going to be interesting to see how this plays out. Will Egypt cut a deal with Hamas and give the appearance of an alliance with Hamas against Israel? Is Israel just being paranoid or do they have justification to be worried?

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Karl Marx is a jew like jesus.

Actually, Karl Marx is dead.

I am an athiest and globalist.