Contradictions in the Bible...

wandeljw wrote:

In my opinion, because the very definition of faith is belief without proof.

wandel, the dictionary agrees with you:

Quote:

1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

Intrepid wrote:

It is also the greatest source of money to help the less fortunate etc. etc.

You just love to throw things like this out there without evidence. Can you demonstrate that this is true, or is it just a religionist's conceit?

Conceit lay in the contention that it were the greatest source . . . Hooters gave large sums of money for hurrican relief in the US, and when it was revealed that some people had abused government credit cards to buy champagne, Hooters stepped in and picked up that bill.

Shall we therefore decide that Hooters is an organization as charitable and morally correct as your church? Should we tout the employment of busty young women in skimpy outfits?

yitwail wrote:

wandeljw wrote:

In my opinion, because the very definition of faith is belief without proof.

wandel, the dictionary agrees with you:

Quote:

1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

To people with faith-Do you look both ways before you cross the road?

material girl wrote:

yitwail wrote:

wandeljw wrote:

In my opinion, because the very definition of faith is belief without proof.

wandel, the dictionary agrees with you:

Quote:

1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

To people with faith-Do you look both ways before you cross the road?

We have faith. We are not stupid. You seem to have faith confused with blind stupidity. There is a difference, you know.

I seem to have messed up on the quoting. Apologies to wandeljw. The was his. The words were mine.

I just have a general comment regarding proof. Faith means believing in something where you have no proof. Even the most rigorous of scientists will admit that not everything can be proven or even understood.

wandeljw wrote:

material girl wrote:

yitwail wrote:

wandeljw wrote:

In my opinion, because the very definition of faith is belief without proof.

wandel, the dictionary agrees with you:

Quote:

1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

To people with faith-Do you look both ways before you cross the road?

We have faith. We are not stupid. You seem to have faith confused with blind stupidity. There is a difference, you know.

I don't think you have the capacity to understand it.

Intrepid wrote:

I don't think you have the capacity to understand it.

Ive never been so patronized in my life.

Its a shame you dont feel as tho you have the ability or want to educate me.

material girl wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

I don't think you have the capacity to understand it.

Ive never been so patronized in my life.

Its a shame you dont feel as tho you have the ability or want to educate me.

Well, don't get the vapors. Especially so soon after slandering everyone with faith.

I have not yet been given evidence that faith works 100%

Setanta,
If you can show how this is relevent to the topic, I will be happy to answer.