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Contradictions in the Bible...

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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:25 am
Jeesh, my play-on-words spelling of "loonies" as "lunnies" (derived from Luna and lunatic) flew over somebody's head. Too bad they've sunk down to the level of correcting perceived mispellings and/or typos -- the depth of pettiness.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:26 am
joefromchicago wrote:
material girl wrote:
Im sure the families of the minors that died in that collapsed mine shaft(I think in Russia)prayed for them too, it didnt get to God, it didnt help them.The outcome has nothing to do with God.

Maybe somebody was praying for the mineshaft to collapse and all those miners (I'm guessing that even Russia doesn't send minors into its mines) to die, and maybe god decided to answer that prayer.


Since when do nasty people pray?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:26 am
Setanta wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
If you had left it in context, you would have seen that it was a spoof reply to what Material Girl wrote. BTW, we both made the mistake of spelling proves as proofs, but I spelled received correctly.


That does not alter that you were attempting to suggest that if a great many people believe in a god, that is good evidence--it is not.

I misspelled receive--but i was using your spelling of "proofs," so you can't pin that one on me.


Again, I was using the analogy of people believing that man walked on the moon and God's existence. Those who do not want to believe either/or will not believe it. With or without any kind of proof.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:27 am
Once again, the analogy fails because the moon mission is confirmed by sources other than NASA, and by nations other than the United States. There is no independent confirmation of the existence of a deity. It's in your head, Jim.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:28 am
Gee, no immediate correction of misspelling as "mispelling" and no mention that "depth of pettiness" is an oxymoron (intended).
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:30 am
For those who still have portions of their brain trapped in adolescence:

http://www.thursdaysclassroom.com/15mar01/Article1.html
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:34 am
material girl wrote:
Since when do nasty people pray?

I don't know. Probably since shortly after the invention of prayer.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:36 am
joefromchicago wrote:
material girl wrote:
Since when do nasty people pray?

I don't know. Probably since shortly after the invention of prayer.



Prove it.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 09:01 am
In my opinion, people on both sides of this issue are misusing the concept of proof. Proof is not always relevant. Proof does not apply to issues of faith.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 09:04 am
wandeljw wrote:
In my opinion, people on both sides of this issue are misusing the concept of proof. Proof is not always relevant. Proof does not apply to issues of faith.


Because its beyond the need of proof or(no disrespect meant) because religion is the biggest money spinner on the planet and if it was proved pointless it would lose a fortune?
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 09:14 am
material girl wrote:
wandeljw wrote:
In my opinion, people on both sides of this issue are misusing the concept of proof. Proof is not always relevant. Proof does not apply to issues of faith.


Because its beyond the need of proof or(no disrespect meant) because religion is the biggest money spinner on the planet and if it was proved pointless it would lose a fortune?


In my opinion, because the very definition of faith is belief without proof.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 09:22 am
material girl wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
material girl wrote:
Since when do nasty people pray?

I don't know. Probably since shortly after the invention of prayer.


Prove it.

Sure. But first, define "nasty."
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 09:30 am
material girl wrote:
wandeljw wrote:
In my opinion, people on both sides of this issue are misusing the concept of proof. Proof is not always relevant. Proof does not apply to issues of faith.


Because its beyond the need of proof or(no disrespect meant) because religion is the biggest money spinner on the planet and if it was proved pointless it would lose a fortune?


It is also the greatest source of money to help the less fortunate etc. etc.
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 09:32 am
Intrepid wrote:
material girl wrote:
wandeljw wrote:
In my opinion, people on both sides of this issue are misusing the concept of proof. Proof is not always relevant. Proof does not apply to issues of faith.


Because its beyond the need of proof or(no disrespect meant) because religion is the biggest money spinner on the planet and if it was proved pointless it would lose a fortune?


It is also the greatest source of money to help the less fortunate etc. etc.


Really, I thought charities did that.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 09:33 am
material girl wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
material girl wrote:
wandeljw wrote:
In my opinion, people on both sides of this issue are misusing the concept of proof. Proof is not always relevant. Proof does not apply to issues of faith.


Because its beyond the need of proof or(no disrespect meant) because religion is the biggest money spinner on the planet and if it was proved pointless it would lose a fortune?


It is also the greatest source of money to help the less fortunate etc. etc.


Really, I thought charities did that.


What the heck do you think most Churches are?????????
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 09:34 am
joefromchicago wrote:
material girl wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
material girl wrote:
Since when do nasty people pray?

I don't know. Probably since shortly after the invention of prayer.


Prove it.

Sure. But first, define "nasty."


Negative people who want to do nothing but cause pain,havoc and mayhem.
People who on purposely bring harm to others.
People who pray for mine shafts to fall on others.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 10:10 am
material girl wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
material girl wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
material girl wrote:
Since when do nasty people pray?

I don't know. Probably since shortly after the invention of prayer.


Prove it.

Sure. But first, define "nasty."


Negative people who want to do nothing but cause pain,havoc and mayhem.
People who on purposely bring harm to others.
People who pray for mine shafts to fall on others.

Well, if one of the definitions of "nasty" is "people who pray for mineshafts to fall on others," then, by definition, "nasty" people pray. QED.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 10:14 am
wandeljw wrote:

In my opinion, because the very definition of faith is belief without proof.


wandel, the dictionary agrees with you:

Quote:
1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.


"faith." The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. Answers.com 13 Jul. 2006. http://www.answers.com/topic/faith
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material girl
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 10:19 am
Churches are a place for religious people to go to worship God and pray.
You have to pay to get married in a church, hence its a business.
The money aspect shouldnt come into church life.
Surely schools, private charities etc do more fund raising that churches.
Jesus didnt have money and Id hazard a gues God doesnt either.

joe- i apologise, an *example* of nasty is people who pray for mineshafts to fall on others.
So how do nasty people pray?
How do they pray?
Do they really really hope for things to happen?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 10:19 am
Intrepid wrote:
It is also the greatest source of money to help the less fortunate etc. etc.


You just love to throw things like this out there without evidence. Can you demonstrate that this is true, or is it just a religionist's conceit?
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