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What has this woman made of herself?

 
 
dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 11:55 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:

Got to go with Deb on this one. I TOO find the over the top reaction to the over the top initial reaction over the top, and illogical.


Sirens climbing into my boat would probably cause an over the top reaction as well.

I think the painting smacks of latent lesbianism (little "man in the boat" being seduced by georgouse naked females)
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2006 12:06 am
"but I didn't throw a fit about it, nor did I throw a fit about the ones that did throw a fit.....etc.

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Huh? When did you stop throwing fits? You be a fine fit thrower usually.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2006 12:13 am
dadpad wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:

Got to go with Deb on this one. I TOO find the over the top reaction to the over the top initial reaction over the top, and illogical.


Sirens climbing into my boat would probably cause an over the top reaction as well.

I think the painting smacks of latent lesbianism (little "man in the boat" being seduced by georgouse naked females)




SMACKS of latent lesbianism?

That hints at latent masochism.....or is latex the correct word?
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2006 04:50 am
Eva wrote:
I am entirely too familiar with conservatives like that lady. Believe me, the title, the mythological subject, and the quality of the art were completely beyond her. All she saw was the female nudity.

To these people, nudity in art is wrong. Period.

(I'd like to slap the whole bunch of them silly.)





Once I was looking over a bunch of books on a table at a yard sale, and picked up a copy of Khalil Gibrans "The Prophet". I always keep losing my copy for some reason, and this was 50cents.

I flipped it open to the chapter about children and parents (the children are the arrow, the parents the strong bow, God is the Archer) and one of my neighbors, an elderly woman who I knew to be very conservative asked "What's that honey?"

I showed her the picture....

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jrcole/gibran/graphics/gib9.jpg

You would have thought I was showing her a copy of Hustler Magazine. She drew in a sharp breath, said "Oh MY!" and turn away.

I just figured....Her Loss.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2006 03:59 pm
dlowan wrote:
"but I didn't throw a fit about it, nor did I throw a fit about the ones that did throw a fit.....etc.

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Huh? When did you stop throwing fits? You be a fine fit thrower usually.


I gave it up for Lent :wink:
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2006 04:28 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
dlowan wrote:
"but I didn't throw a fit about it, nor did I throw a fit about the ones that did throw a fit.....etc.

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Huh? When did you stop throwing fits? You be a fine fit thrower usually.


I gave it up for Lent :wink:


Does that mean it's coming back?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2006 04:52 pm
Depends on what you mean by it. :wink:

If you mean Lent, it'll be back.

If you mean my fit throwing, nah, it's gone Laughing
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 11:20 am
Funny, Chai Tea, but you rather are a pot calling the kettle black. I remember well your posts over a period of some time. Just the other day, you threw an extremely childish temper tantrum and asked me to leave a thread because you thought my post was for actions that were unworkable.

I proposed something that involves self-control -- the character trait I admire above all others -- and you demonstrated a complete lack of self-control both by your content and your language.

I had had a somewhat favorable opinion of you. You then presented yourself as immature and demolished my good opinion.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 11:27 am
The picture was used to illustrate the main story in the magazine, "Economics discovers the irrational," which was largely about decision making.

It is my suspicion that the woman who wrote decrying the cover illustration was actually in a lather about the article which said, among other things, that planning for the future and individual responsibility do not come into play when a decision is made.

That was an interesting piece for me, because my senior seminar in college was about decision-making.

I was a political science major and we were put together with the history majors in a seminar on the Cold War in the spring of 1969. I did not want to participate in the topic and took the most benign subject I could. Several members of the faculty -- IHM sisters -- would address me personally when they saw me in the halls to say how disappointed they were that I selected that subject for my paper. Believe me, I was relieved not to have been forced to engage in controversy.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 12:03 pm
Ahhhhh, I finally see the problem here, Plainoldme. That woman disagrees with you/your views! Shocked

You seem to be missing the point that I feel some are nicely trying to get across to you. You are dragging into this thread things from another thread that have no real bearing on the topic of this one? I have found that most on A2K don't care much for that. I learned that through experience. :wink:

Anyway, I believe the point some are trying to get across to you is this: We are all different. We think, act, etc., differently. Because someone does not agree with what you think, believe, feel, that doesn't necessarily make them wrong. For the woman that was upset about the painting in the first place, that's her business, her right, etc. It's also your business and your right to have your reactions.

What good did it do for you to start up this thread and tell us how "whatever" you thought that woman was for exercising her rights? Obviously, it's done none of us any good to "exercise our rights" in this thread. You haven't changed your mind about how you feel about this, have you? I didn't think so. And, I sincerely doubt that this thread changed that particular woman's views either.

It's a matter of priorities, the IMPORTANT things in life. How important is this specific issue really?
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Gala
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 07:30 pm
Oh, this is a hoot, I just noticed the painter has a guy strapped to a pole so he isn't tempted by the Harpies/Sirens. This painting is killing me it's so high drama. I still think it was not good judgement from a design standpoint given the content of the article.

One more point, although I don't think anyone cares-- I have a feeling those Harvard/Blue state folk got a thrill in using this painting, the Midwestern woman's reaction is precisely what they wanted, after all, sex sells and conservatives are making it their crusade to bring us back to the 50s.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 07:40 pm
'Twasn't the painter who had the guy strapped to the mast, so much as Homer...but so it goes....
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Gala
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 07:56 pm
Yeah, yeah, I know, Homer Simpson. You know what I mean, the "author" of the painting who had the technical skill to paint the guy with blue balls.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 08:43 pm
Yep this painting is gay all over.

I mentioned the latent lesbianism of seducing the "man in the boat.....there are homosexual overtones all over the painting. Man strapped to a large thick phallic symbol mast straining at his bonds a look of orgasmic extacy on his face, each rower grips has an oar which penetrates the vessel, promiscuouse nymphs, "waves" of mounting sexuallity............

oh yes definitly pornographic, should be banned in case it pollutes my mind infecting it with the devils temptation of homosexuallity.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 08:47 pm
dadpad wrote:
Yep this painting is gay all over.

I mentioned the latent lesbianism of seducing the "man in the boat.....there are homosexual overtones all over the painting. Man strapped to a large thick phallic symbol mast straining at his bonds a look of orgasmic extacy on his face, each rower grips has an oar which penetrates the vessel, promiscuouse nymphs, "waves" of mounting sexuallity............

oh yes definitly pornographic, should be banned in case it pollutes my mind infecting it with the devils temptation of homosexuallity.


I didn't think marsupials gave a **** about where it went?
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 11:55 pm
dlowan wrote:

Boy...mins be scared of female sexuality from the look of those things....always something scary to them going on below the neck!


Scared, hell. What the dude is thinking is "Will somebody puulease get this Witch off my damn oar".
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jun, 2006 11:59 pm
And me, I represent the lone female bored by the painting on sight, and not for feminist or antifeminist reasons. Just cause I don't much like syrup.
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Chai
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jul, 2006 05:25 am
plainoldme wrote:
Funny, Chai Tea, but you rather are a pot calling the kettle black. I remember well your posts over a period of some time. Just the other day, you threw an extremely childish temper tantrum and asked me to leave a thread because you thought my post was for actions that were unworkable.

I proposed something that involves self-control -- the character trait I admire above all others -- and you demonstrated a complete lack of self-control both by your content and your language.

I had had a somewhat favorable opinion of you. You then presented yourself as immature and demolished my good opinion.



plainoldme....from the posts I've read of yours, you have a long history of going off half-cocked. In the other thread, which you mention a non-existant "temper tantrum", I would invite you to look below it at my response. Which you obviously did not read. In short, you had entered a thread about one person discussing his desire to have/not have more children. You attempted to make it a world population issue. I suggested you post on another thread where that exact subject was being discused...even providing the link you you. Before you step into the muck any deeper, I suggest you go back and read. I specifically stated I wasn't trying to argue with you, but was trying to lead you to a thread where your very concerns were being discussed. Actually, I think it still would be a good idea to go onto that other thread and revive it.

As for your opininon of me...I don't fall for that game were you tell me your disappinted in me, in the hopes of having me drearily argue the point.

I couldn't care less what your opinion of me is.

Please refer here for my response.



Gala - FYI, the sirens song were so inticing sailors would crash their boats up on the rocks were they sat. To get through, the rowers stuff their ears with wax so they couldn't hear them, and Ulysses tied himself to the mast, so he could force the men to crash their boat.

I can't remember why he just didn't put wax in his ears too.

Does anyone remember?
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jul, 2006 07:34 am
He wanted to hear them sing, without making his men crash his boat... best of both worlds, and all Razz
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jul, 2006 08:17 am
What I am really curious about is what the artist actually thought about when painting the painting? Do you think he thought all of this stuff? Shocked

Almost forgot to add this ~ Chai Tea, I read your response. You go girl!
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