Lash wrote:If this post was "addressing the subject,"
snood wrote:show me where I sneered on this thread, Setanta.
then mine was, too.
I think you want to exert unreasonable control on what everyone else says on the thread, but you want to be able to say whatever you please.
snood wrote:I think you hold a grudge, and it shows.
This is a cop-out for one who doesn't take responsibility for his own statements. There is no grudge. I am responding to what you, or others, say.
You are obviously unhappy about the fact that you asked someone to provide evidence of you sneering on the thread, and they did That doesn't require a grudge. It required a sneer, which you had provided.
If you want the thread to move on---move on.
If you don't like people to provide proof that you sneer--don't sneer. Or at least, don't challenge them to find it.
If you don't want me to disagree with you, don't say anything.
Otherwise, refamiliarize yourself with the idea of a message board.
I don't need no steenking refamiliarization.
JLNobdy - whom you seem to be contending that I "sneered" against, doesn't share your opinion. He took no offense, and you tried to use our exchange as an evidence of something that seems to exist only in the heads of you and Setanta.
Setanta directly referred to me - I answered. The only way you got involved was the way you've gotten involved in several threads I'm in - you nose in, solely to voice your (usually wrong) idea about something I'm doing or saying.
Now to equate what I did - start this thread, try to address the topic, and answer posts directly referring to me; with what you keep doing -
jumping into and stirring conflicts in which you have no apparent interest except to antagonize me -
makes you look like - well, like a person with a grudge.
Or I could be totally wrong - you could be this big-spirited person who can drop this stupid, pain in the ass line of discussion at any time with nary another thought, and even offer some constructive, substantive thoughts about lives lived without spirituality. Hint: not holding my breath.
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Here's something for those of you still interested in addressing the topic:
In a class I'm taking, the professor was talking about the "locus of ownership" in a person's life.
After explanation, I understood him to mean what it is - either external or internal - that a person counts on to help him through life. We took a survey which asked questions like "Do you think heredity dictates the majority of your personality", and "True or false - A person can change their destiny". All of the questions were aimed at determining whether the responder is someone who believes the control of their life is external or internal.
This launched us into a discussion about prayer and spirituality. My position was that a person can work to actualize their personal potential, but still believe their is a higher purpose and plan than their own. some classmates were clearly torn.
There seemed to be a conflict about whether it's possible to both believe in an organizing benevolent spiritual force, and still believe in the power of self.
Is a conflict between those two concepts inevitable to you?