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GREY SQUIRRELS TO BE SHOT ON SIGHT !

 
 
hamburger
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2006 12:22 pm
our grand-dogs will be visiting next week .
watch out pesky squirrels - they haven't caught one yet , but they do their share of jumping up the treetrunk , barking , pulling at the leash .
hbg
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NickFun
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2006 12:53 pm
If they haven't caught one yet they never will. Be glad you don't rely on those dogs for your dinner.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jul, 2006 12:59 pm
they are always on a short leash .
we don't really want them to catch a squirrel - or anything larger than a fly - but bailey tries to make a run for squirels , cats ... nevertheless . i guess he hopes that some day the leash will slip off .
hbg
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 08:50 pm
littlek part deux wrote:
They prefer to shoot them. With a camera. And they make ridiculous little noises and squeels of delight. Sometimes they drool.


are you referring to the squirrels or the Europeans?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 12:44 am
From today's Manchester Evening News (First Edition, page 4)

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Grey squirrels face cull to save reds

Grey squirrels could be culled at red squirrel refuges in Merseyside and Cumbria to stop them transmitting a deadly virus to the native species.

Scientists say a deadly squirrel disease which only affects reds could see them disappear from some of its last remaining English strongholds within a decade.

Previously scientists believed grey squirrels were wiping out native reds simply by taking over their habitats, but an international study has blamed a virus which they transmit to the red population, killing them in a fortnight.

Red squirrels have been in Britain for 10,000 years and are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act. Greys were introduced from the United States more than 100 years ago.

Grey squirrels could be culled at red squirrel refuges in Merseyside and Cumbria to stop them transmitting a deadly virus to the native species.

Scientists say a deadly squirrel disease which only affects reds could see them disappear from some of its last remaining English strongholds within a decade.

Previously scientists believed grey squirrels were wiping out native reds simply by taking over their habitats, but an international study has blamed a virus which they transmit to the red population, killing them in a fortnight.

Red squirrels have been in Britain for 10,000 years and are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act. Greys were introduced from the United States more than 100 years ago.


Related report: Virus has 'catastrophic' affect on red squirrels, research shows
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 4 Oct, 2007 11:06 pm
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Can the squirrel problem be solved?
WHO, WHAT, WHY?
The Magazine answers...


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Researchers are trying to find a way to stop grey squirrels reproducing, but can the menace ever be stopped?
To some they are "tree rats", to others unwelcome foreign invaders. They have even been reported to launch unprovoked attacks on humans.

Hated for its stripping of tree bark, threats to wild birds, but most of all for its "displacement" of the red squirrel, there are many people who would be happy to see the grey squirrel eradicated.



Now the Forestry Commission is carrying out research funded in part by the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and Scottish Natural Heritage to see if contraceptives can be administered in an effort to tackle the population.

But can its spread across the UK ever be stopped and would contraception eradicate them completely?

The most realistic outcome, the commission says, is that contraception will, along with trapping and poisoning, control the population. Getting rid of the grey will never be a meaningful option.

"The concept of eradication has come up a number of times, there have been bounty schemes, but that has been found to be ineffective," says Brenda Mayle, programme manager at the Forestry Commission.


The first efforts to tackle the grey squirrel menace were in the early 1930s. By the 1940s grey squirrel shooting clubs were common, with free shotgun cartridges issued by the authorities and a bounty of two shillings paid per tail. But the spread continued.

In recent years the desire to at least stop that spread has intensified with the discovery that the squirrel pox (SQPV) disease, which red squirrels suffer from, is carried by greys but does not cause symptoms in them.

'Bait-and-delivery system'

Ms Mayle said research in the US into preventing reproduction in other animals, such as horses, had raised the hope that oral contraception could be used on grey squirrels.

A three-year-research project going on in the UK and US hopes to find a suitable drug. Ms Mayle said a permanent contraceptive effect was wanted and drugs used on animals mostly had a temporary effect.

The bait-and-delivery system would need to be carefully chosen so that other animals, particularly red squirrels, did not eat it.



Currently, the grey squirrel population is controlled by trapping and poisoning by the anticoagulant warfarin. The poisoning is done using an L-shaped hopper that has a gate that only a squirrel could open. But poisoning is not allowed in areas where there are known to be reds.

If the search for a contraception solution is successful it will not spell rapid, dramatic results, Ms Mayle warns.

"The longevity of treated animals has increased. The rate of decline has not been as fast as expected," she suggests.

Ross Minett, campaigns director at Advocates for Animals, says welfare organisations would be interested in an approach that did not involve culling.

Tables have turned

"We share the concern of members of the public about the plight of the red squirrel, but the grey squirrel is here to stay. There is no way we are going to remove it.

"We are very interested in this idea [immunocontraception] if it could be an alternative to killing grey squirrels."

Mr Minett said a study done at Bristol University had shown that killing grey squirrels was not an effective way to conserve their red cousins. Instead cultivating more conifer forest and establishing island refuges that could be defended against greys was a more realistic option.


welfare issues."

Angus Macmillan, who runs the Grey Squirrels website, believes that control of the population is unnecessary and that the idea of exterminating one animal population to make another prosper is "bordering on ethnic cleansing".

"They shouldn't be controlled and I don't think they can be controlled. There are other methods of saving the red squirrel. Nature controls species."

Grey squirrels are persecuted, at least in part, for being seen as American invaders, Mr Macmillan suggests. But the red squirrel, which is being protected by greys being killed, might not be as native as people think. With the animals hunted as pests and affected by disease, Scotland's stocks were topped up in the 19th Century with squirrels from the continent.

Any contraceptive programme will not see an end to the killing of squirrels.

"It is not an alternative to lethal options," Ms Mayle insists.

In the 19th Century it was the red that was the pest, blamed for damaging trees. The tables are now turned.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 5 Oct, 2007 08:23 am
you can eat squirrels if you can catch them.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 5 Oct, 2007 09:03 am
we've got more than enough squirrels - black and grey - nesting in our trees and digging up bulbs - we shoo them away sometimes , but somehow seem to have a peaceful co-existence WITHOUT united nations intervention .
bailay and cleo will be visiting this weekend with their human servants and i'm sure bailey will work himself into a lather chasing the squirrels up the trees . he'll never catch them , just wears himself out . cleo is smarter ; she simply ignores them .
hbg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 5 Oct, 2007 09:15 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
you can eat squirrels if you can catch them.


We've got only red/brown squirrel here. And when they are caught, they are as flat as a pancake on the roads.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 5 Oct, 2007 04:56 pm
no need to neglect the flattened squirrels - they can be turned into a tasty stew Rolling Eyes :wink: .
one of the many squirrel recipes to be found at link .
keep in mind to use some good red wine for the gravy !

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Daddy's Squirrel Stew

Thanks to Rob Benson for sending in this recipe.



~ 3 squirrels, quartered
~ Tony Chachere's Creole seasoning
~ 2 strips bacon, cut up
~ 1/2 stick butter
~ 1 onion, chopped
~ 4 cloves garlic, finely chopped
~ 2 bell peppers, chopped
~ 2 stalks celery, chopped
~ 3 potatoes, cubed
~ 5 cups water
~ 1/4 cup burgundy wine


Rub the creole seasoning liberally over the squirrels.

In a dutch oven, melt the butter. Add the bacon.

Add the squirrel to the dutch oven and brown evenly. Remove.

To the dutch oven, add the onion, garlic, peppers and celery. Saute until the veggies are soft.

Add the meat back to the pot along with the water and potatoes. Stir together.

Bring to a boil, reduce heat and simmer 1 1/2 hours stirring occasionally.

Remove the squirrel pieces. Cool and debone.

Return meat to the pot. Stir in the wine. Heat to boiling again then reduce heat and simmer 10 minutes.

Serve over biscuits or toast.

Enjoy.




more recipes :
SQUIRREL : FRIED OR BARBEQUED ?
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