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Ann Coulter Attacks 9/11 Widows

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2006 12:03 pm
BernardR wrote:
I had quite a few weekend leaves in Raleigh. The people I met there were just a few degrees above moronic.



How would you know?
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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2006 12:06 pm
Bernard wouldn't know a moron if he met one.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2006 12:07 pm
Blatham -- Thanks for letting us know that Coulter relied upon the tutelage of Michael Behe. The man is a joke.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2006 04:59 pm
Welcome. And by the by...there was a question you asked earlier which I thought better to leave unanswered.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2006 05:04 pm
gimmie that old time religion and christian values
"Three years after Gov. Frank Keating declared war on the state's
No. 2-in-the-nation divorce rate, ... Oklahoma's number of failed marriages - about 20,000 a year - has remained fairly steady, state records show. ... For every 100 marriage licenses issued in 2001, the state granted 76 divorce petitions.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2006 05:04 pm
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Coulter writes, "People don't get angry when lies are told about them; they get angry when the truth is told about them."


If she never opened her mouth or never typed a sentence, she wouldn't let on just how stupid her fans are. It's a selfishness of some magnitude.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2006 07:50 pm
Just out of curiosity-what precisely is a governor supposed to do about a divorce rate?
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BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 12:25 am
McGentrix wrote:
I am in North Carolina this very moment. I do not believe people here are any more or less stupid then they are everywhere else. It's just the accent makes them sound stupid. But, you will find stupid people all around the globe, the US or NC hardly have a monopoly.
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Have you ever been to Fayetteville?
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 06:11 am
dyslexia wrote:
gimmie that old time religion and christian values
"Three years after Gov. Frank Keating declared war on the state's
No. 2-in-the-nation divorce rate
, ... Oklahoma's number of failed marriages - about 20,000 a year - has remained fairly steady, state records show. ... For every 100 marriage licenses issued in 2001, the state granted 76 divorce petitions.


As one witty fellow put it some years ago, Johnston's War On Poverty really ought to have labelled Skirmish On Poverty.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 09:50 am
blatham wrote:
Welcome. And by the by...there was a question you asked earlier which I thought better to leave unanswered.


Ok, I understand.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 09:53 am
Although this is off the topic, I feel the need to defend North Carolina. There is a 'school' of North Carolina writers who are impressing the so-called Eastern Intellectual Establishment. The state is home to many potters and musicians.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 11:32 am
BernardR wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
I am in North Carolina this very moment. I do not believe people here are any more or less stupid then they are everywhere else. It's just the accent makes them sound stupid. But, you will find stupid people all around the globe, the US or NC hardly have a monopoly.
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Have you ever been to Fayetteville?

Why should one's accent cause one to automatically assume that they're stupid?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 11:38 am
Dookiestix wrote:
BernardR wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
I am in North Carolina this very moment. I do not believe people here are any more or less stupid then they are everywhere else. It's just the accent makes them sound stupid. But, you will find stupid people all around the globe, the US or NC hardly have a monopoly.
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Have you ever been to Fayetteville?

Why should one's accent cause one to automatically assume that they're stupid?


In order to understand this, you must first acknowledge that the way a person sounds while speaking can tend to cause some people listening to them speak draw a conclusion about the speaker's level of intelligence.

Do you acknowledge that?
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 11:57 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Dookiestix wrote:
BernardR wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
I am in North Carolina this very moment. I do not believe people here are any more or less stupid then they are everywhere else. It's just the accent makes them sound stupid. But, you will find stupid people all around the globe, the US or NC hardly have a monopoly.
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Have you ever been to Fayetteville?

Why should one's accent cause one to automatically assume that they're stupid?


In order to understand this, you must first acknowledge that the way a person sounds while speaking can tend to cause some people listening to them speak draw a conclusion about the speaker's level of intelligence.

Do you acknowledge that?

Why must I acknowledge this? What's wrong with listening to their words, rather than their accent?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 12:05 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
Dookiestix wrote:
BernardR wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
I am in North Carolina this very moment. I do not believe people here are any more or less stupid then they are everywhere else. It's just the accent makes them sound stupid. But, you will find stupid people all around the globe, the US or NC hardly have a monopoly.
************************************************************
Have you ever been to Fayetteville?

Why should one's accent cause one to automatically assume that they're stupid?


In order to understand this, you must first acknowledge that the way a person sounds while speaking can tend to cause some people listening to them speak draw a conclusion about the speaker's level of intelligence.

Do you acknowledge that?

Why must I acknowledge this? What's wrong with listening to their words, rather than their accent?


If you fail to acknowledge this, you cannot possibly grasp the concept McG is stating.

Have you watched the movie Forrest Gump? What about Sling Blade? If so, what is it about the performances of Tom Hanks or Billy Bob Thornton that stands out in your mind?

There is nothing wrong with listening to a person's words, rather than their accent, and as a matter of fact, that seems to be the very point McG is making. It appears you agree with him on the large point, but for some inexplicable reason -- possibly due to your general habit of disagreeing with him on every point -- you refuse to acknowledge the obvious fact that some accents or manners of speech negatively impact the listener.
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 12:23 pm
Everything's perspective. I tend to think that if a person speaks with a twang, and it impacts someone negatively, it says more about the listener than the speaker.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 12:27 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Dookiestix wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
Dookiestix wrote:
BernardR wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
I am in North Carolina this very moment. I do not believe people here are any more or less stupid then they are everywhere else. It's just the accent makes them sound stupid. But, you will find stupid people all around the globe, the US or NC hardly have a monopoly.
************************************************************
Have you ever been to Fayetteville?

Why should one's accent cause one to automatically assume that they're stupid?


In order to understand this, you must first acknowledge that the way a person sounds while speaking can tend to cause some people listening to them speak draw a conclusion about the speaker's level of intelligence.

Do you acknowledge that?

Why must I acknowledge this? What's wrong with listening to their words, rather than their accent?


If you fail to acknowledge this, you cannot possibly grasp the concept McG is stating.

Have you watched the movie Forrest Gump? What about Sling Blade? If so, what is it about the performances of Tom Hanks or Billy Bob Thornton that stands out in your mind?

There is nothing wrong with listening to a person's words, rather than their accent, and as a matter of fact, that seems to be the very point McG is making. It appears you agree with him on the large point, but for some inexplicable reason -- possibly due to your general habit of disagreeing with him on every point -- you refuse to acknowledge the obvious fact that some accents or manners of speech negatively impact the listener.

I never disagreed with that statement. But it is also a matter of perception as well as one's quick rush to judgement. I am merely adding some insight to the argument.

The opposite seems to apply to Ann Coulter. She may not have a "hick" accent, or whatever other accent you might imply, but she certainly is an idiot. Ann doesn't have to utter more than 10 words for one to understand this. Meanwhile, someone with a notable accent which may suggest stupidity to some merely exemplifies an obvious rush to judgement.

Therefore, the conventional wisdom here is based more on a knee jerk perception rather than a sincere grasp of another's intelligence and insight.

Cannot possibly grasp? You're reaching today, Tico. Besides, McGentrix specifically said that the "accent makes them SOUND stupid." Now, whatever do you think he meant by that? It would appear that McGentrix is expressing his personal views on this, not somebody else's.

Perhaps a better wording by McGentrix would clear things up. Unfortunately, you've latched onto the typical "cannot possibly grasp the concept" style of debate.

Must be a rush to judgement, I guess...
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 12:30 pm
snood wrote:
Everything's perspective. I tend to think that if a person speaks with a twang, and it impacts someone negatively, it says more about the listener than the speaker.

Exactly the point I was making to Tico regarding McGentrix's comments. Afterall, it was McGentrix who said that their "accent makes them SOUND stupid."

Using Ann Coulter as a clear example in debunking that specious claim by McGentrix should hopefully put things in a little better perspective, one would hope...
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 12:50 pm
snood wrote:
Everything's perspective. I tend to think that if a person speaks with a twang, and it impacts someone negatively, it says more about the listener than the speaker.


Perhaps so.

I was in a jury trial once, and the lawyer on the other side had a western Kansas accent. The thing I noticed was he really played it up for the jury. I mean he really twanged it up big time in front of the jury, trying to sound folksy I guess.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 17 Aug, 2006 12:59 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
Meanwhile, someone with a notable accent which may suggest stupidity to some merely exemplifies an obvious rush to judgement.


So did Tom Hanks or Billy Bob Thorton "sound stupid" in the movies I cited? You never did answer that question.

Since their characters were supposed to be "stupid," do you suppose there was a reason the actors chose to speak as they did while portraying those characters?

Dookie wrote:
Therefore, the conventional wisdom here is based more on a knee jerk perception rather than a sincere grasp of another's intelligence and insight.


Nobody is saying that the way a person speaks is a yardstick by which one can measure their intellect.

Dookie wrote:
Cannot possibly grasp? You're reaching today, Tico. Besides, McGentrix specifically said that the "accent makes them SOUND stupid." Now, whatever do you think he meant by that? It would appear that McGentrix is expressing his personal views on this, not somebody else's.


Yes, he said they "sound" stupid, he didn't say they "were" stupid. And I think he was expressing his personal views on that. Frankly, if John Kerry were to read the very same text as George W. Bush, Bush would sound stupider ... to me, and probably to most people, I would imagine.

But I guess you would disagree, and think Bush would sound as intelligent as Kerry .... right?

Dookie wrote:
Perhaps a better wording by McGentrix would clear things up. Unfortunately, you've latched onto the typical "cannot possibly grasp the concept" style of debate.


I still think you've missed the point.
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