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Ann Coulter Attacks 9/11 Widows

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 09:15 am
Finn wrote: Ann Coulter is the Conservative equivalent of National Lampoon.

Well, I still have a copy of THe National Lampoon's mediocrity issue. Coulter does not have the talent the Lampoon group had in its salad days. There was never the vitriol in Lampoon that Coulter shows about the tiniest of things.

Coulter is simply rude and sour . . . and talentless.
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 09:45 am
Coulter is right 99.9% of the time, the Left just doesn't care for how she states her positions. They have no trouble with Molly Ivins, Al Franken, Michael Moore, Randi Rhodes, etc.

In the meantime, Ann is laughing all the way to the bank, although I don't think that's her ultimate goal.

I think it's as FinnDAbuzz stated - she enjoys baiting the Left and from the comments here, she's doing an excellent job.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 10:04 am
In driving one nuts, is that like making sure there's an airsick bag at hand when she appears on the boob tube? She drives the right nuts with their false praise of a distinctly neutered personality and warped character. I can pay attention to a limited number of sound bytes or quotes from her books which usually make it onto The Daily Show, The Tonight Show, Conan O'Brien and Steve Colbert. I don't think she will be rushing to accept another Leno outing as Jay put her across the boards and instead of literally fu*king her, fu*ked up her head with some serious finesse. The left has no problem with those leftwing writers because they are intelligent. Coulter has the IQ of a dead flashlight battery. She exudes snobbery with her nose up in the air, speaking through it like it was a megaphone.
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 10:09 am
Lightwizard wrote:
In driving one nuts, is that like making sure there's an airsick bag at hand when she appears on the boob tube? She drives the right nuts with their false praise of a distinctly neutered personality and warped character. I can pay attention to a limited number of sound bytes or quotes from her books which usually make it onto The Daily Show, The Tonight Show, Conan O'Brien and Steve Colbert. I don't think she will be rushing to accept another Leno outing as Jay put her across the boards and instead of literally fu*king her, fu*ked up her head with some serious finesse.


See? Laughing
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 10:23 am
Laughing See what? You need cognitive therepy. Laughing

Incidentally, I'm a moderate -- fiscally conservative (too bad the Repubs no longer believe in that as they are trying to bankrupt the US) and socially liberal but not far left. I hate communism.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 10:41 am
LW, I find it quite amazing that so-called republicans continue to support the sociopath in the white house that isn't a real conservative - a fiscal conservative. Not only that, but Bush is the worst president since Hoover in creating jobs for Americans. How does this conflicting performance by Bush reconcile in the brains of the right?
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 11:17 am
finn wrote:
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It need not be celebrated. It is funny. Whether or not it is concerned in any manner with the truth is something only Bill, Al, and Hilary can confirm. It is not substantive public discourse, but it may be admirable.

You find it funny. OK. And, as I suggested elsewhere, how about something like a cartoon of Laura Bush being sodomized by a St. Bernard? That funny too? And equally admirable?

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Ann Coulter is the Conservative equivalent of National Lampoon.

That she drives you Libs nuts makes it only that much funnier.

Blatham, you may not have been a fan of National Lampoon in which case your inability to see the humor in Coulter's remarks is understandable, but if you were, then there is something slightly (or more) hypocritical about taking Coulter's outrageous comments so seriously.

Let's face it, one of the reasons those of us with roots in the American Counter-Culture (and I include Canadians here as they have religiously mimicked American trends) enjoyed National Lampoon, Cheech & Chong, and Firesign Theater et al, is that their humor either baffled or repulsed our elders.

It is the same with Ann Coulter.

So, the equation is...if someone is baffled or repulsed, then whatever has produced that reaction must be funny, witty, admirable, a good time had by all? Perhaps that's why torture, war, child-molesting and the Holocaust provide such rich veins of classic humor.

Your comparison of Coulter with NL or C and C or Firesign is...well, it's a bit baffling and repulsive, actually. Not least because of how indiscriminating the analogy is.

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Perhaps if she was a Cabinet level Secretary, a Senator, or even a mayor, I might find Coulter's comments a bit much, but she is an entertainer.

That's just lazy and disingenous. finn. Ann is merely the same sort of creature as Cirque d'Soleil?

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For Lefties, figures like Lennie Bruce and Mort Sahl were brilliant satirists. Coulter is not only in their league but she takes them one step further by blurring the line between satire and pompous political commentary.

You Lefties that find her the virago from hell, and you righties that find her the Voice of Truth...you've all been had.


I find her simply vile and destructive, on par with Joe McCarthy or the Klan or Pravda. In style and in content, she moves your social discourse towards the very worst of tabloid fare and authoritarianism.

All of the examples of satirists you've given above (add Will Rogers, Twain, Mencken, Monty Python, Trudeau, and SNL or Jon Stewart) could and did laugh at themselves too - and at whomever was in the position of power or priviledge. Think of the skits SNL did on American presidents...party affiliation was not important. Take Stewart's show where guests Mehlman or McCain are treated with the same respect as anyone else and where no one escapes jabs, regardless of party. Saul and Bruce set out to violate taboos and to put fixed and unreflected social ideas and values up to investigation and, often, to ridicule. But their own families and social strata and political affiliates were targets as well.

None of those characteristics holds true with Coulter. You ought to get clear on why that is so.

Can you imagine Will Rogers, Twain, Sahl, Monty Python, Jon Stewart or Swift or C and C or Carlin or anyone else in our list who would ever have suggested that criticism of a President or of one Party was treasonous?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 11:23 am
Beginning the best shots of Ann Coulter looking exactly like a transexual:

http://www.ramdac.org/images/anncoulter1.jpg
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 11:26 am
It's driving me nuts, the ROTFL kind of nuts. I have to take a sh*t after that one -- printed out the pic to use as toilet paper. There are even funnier but in tacky taste on the Internet:

Ann Coulter in various states (not the United States, the disunited states) LINK
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 11:44 am
c.i. -- things are remarkably quiet at the WH since the outbreak of war in the Middle East. Bush came out (!) to make the obligatory, patronizing and inane remarks and the slinked back into the Bushes (I think Laura, especially). They sent out Condelezza to take the wrap -- right, a black Christian has the credibility in the Arab countries of Paris Hilton. Maybe if she put on one of the Muslim face covering but that would piss of Israel.
They have given her a thankless job that Colin Powell would have likely told them to go piss on a fire hydrant.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 01:00 pm
It appears that Coulter is a drug abuser, felon, and plagairist. Maybe her drug use, like that of Rush, was due to her pain. But how does one explain the rest.


Likely Substance Abuser, Possible Felon And Plagiarist Ann Coulter Goes To Bat For Mel Gibson
Reported by Ellen - August 3, 2006 - 168 comments
Voting-fraud suspect Ann Coulter, who was incoherent on Hannity & Colmes last fall and a no-show on FOX on at least three other occasions (not to mention the accusations of plagiarism), seemed an unusual choice as a defender of Mel Gibson but she was there at Hannity's "Freedom Concert" sounding quite knowledgeable when she said, "He has a little scotchy-wotchy problem."

While Hannity waxed compassionately about how he just wanted Gibson and Patrick Kennedy to get help (which I never heard in any of Hannity's discussions about him), Coulter "defended" Gibson by knocking liberals: "I mean (Gibson) didn't drive a woman off a bridge." "What he says blind drunk is what Cindy Sheehan says stone cold sober." And, as usual, the middle-aged Coulter giggled girlishly at her own wit.

When it was Alan Colmes' turn, she coquettishly said, "A lot of people want me to throttle you."

"That would make you happy but maybe not tonight," he answered. Then he proceeded to make her look like a blubbering fool. "Who's not forgiving Mel Gibson?" Colmes asked.

As usual when asked a question she is not prepared for, Coulter stuttered and fumbled for an answer before coming up with something nonsensical. "Uh, uh, uh, I wasn't the one who said that. Ask, ask - Sean has the list here. I mean, most are… Because, I mean, compared to what other Hollywood actors have been caught doing and saying, I mean he wasn't…" Her voice trailed off because, apparently, she couldn't think of anything. "He wasn't doing what a lot of them have done."

Next Colmes asked Coulter about a FOXNews.com article in which Roger Friedman reported that Gibson disputed the numbers of Jews killed in the Holocaust. Gibson's father was a Holocaust denier, Colmes said. "Gibson sounds like a Holocaust diminisher. Should he have to answer for that?"

"Um, I don't know the details of what he said but, um, it does seem to me - I mean, whether it's six, seven, eight, nine, ten - uh, I, I don't think he's denying that it's an unprecedented atrocity."

Actually, that's exactly what Gibson sounded like he was saying. Gibson was quoted in the article as saying, "The Second World War killed tens of millions of people. Some of them were Jews in concentration camps. Many people lost their lives. In the Ukraine, several million starved to death between 1932 and 1933. During the last century, 20 million people died in the Soviet Union."

"Questioning the numbers of people killed in the Holocaust is code for people who question the Holocaust," Colmes, who's Jewish, explained.

"Right, but I'm, I'm saying I don't know what context he said it in. I don't think he's denying it's an atrocity but as a general matter, no, Sean and I would like to hear a lot less from Hollywood actors and more acting. No, I don't think we need to get to the bottom of this anyway."

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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 01:20 pm
Ann Maggot Coulter says that there is an even chance that Hillary is gay. She seems to be accusing all her enemies of being gay. Isn't that a sign that she, herself, is gay? Those who are the most anti-gay often turn out to be gay themselves.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 02:58 pm
SierraSong wrote:
Coulter is right 99.9% of the time .


That's funnier than anything Coulter writes or says.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 03:04 pm
I hope the poster who said Coulter is right most of the time does not accept her as a satirist because satire is neither right nor wrong: satire points out the fallacies of every position.

Also, Coulter does not poke fun at herself, as mentioned above. Even Adam Sandler sets himself up as the brunt of some of his own jokes and my hat goes off to him for doing so.

Satire is social criticism and criticism should have at its end the improvement of society. Coulter is not a satirist because she merely insults. She never examines. She never stimulates thought.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 03:05 pm
plainoldme wrote:
SierraSong wrote:
Coulter is right 99.9% of the time .


That's funnier than anything Coulter writes or says.

Well, yeah it is.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 03:10 pm
dys -- Ba-da-da-ching!
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 03:28 pm
Well, plainoldme, she stimulates thoughts about how dumb many people have become about politics and society in general. She's from the Dark Ages and her form of inquisition is not even on a par with the great and witty curmudgeons of the past, my favorite being quite obvious to everyone.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 03:53 pm
LW, You can say that again! The 'dumming' down of America is quite obvious.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 04:38 pm
Group of 9/11 widows 'question the veracity of the entire Commission's report'

Ron Brynaert
Published: Friday August 4, 2006

Four widows instrumental in getting Congress to push President Bush to create the 9/11 Independent Commission insist that it "failed in its duties" on the heels of two recent news reports which allege that some bipartisan commissioners knew they were being "deceived" by NORAD officials, and the widows are now questioning "the veracity of the entire Commission's report," RAW STORY has found.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Group_of_widows_claim_911_Independent_0804.html
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 08:46 pm
Lightwizard wrote:
Well, plainoldme, she stimulates thoughts about how dumb many people have become about politics and society in general. She's from the Dark Ages and her form of inquisition is not even on a par with the great and witty curmudgeons of the past, my favorite being quite obvious to everyone.


Yet here we are, 57 pages into a discussion about her. Most typed in by those that dislike her... Says a lot for the job she is doing, and doing quite well apparently.
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