RexRed wrote:Frank you are losing it.
Oh, my aching sides.
You are hilarious.
Lemme give you a bit of advice, Rex....
....never, never, never, never talk about anyone else in this forum "losing it."
You are gonna send someone to the hospital in laughter convulsions.
Ah, my....Rex accusing someone else of losing it.
Frank Apisa wrote:RexRed wrote:Frank you are losing it.
Oh, my aching sides.
You are hilarious.
Lemme give you a bit of advice, Rex....
....never, never, never, never talk about anyone else in this forum "losing it."
You are gonna send someone to the hospital in laughter convulsions.
Ah, my....Rex accusing someone else of losing it.
It was not an accusation Frank, it was an observation.
Frank, you are guessing...
Ephesians 3:14-21
14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16 That he [God] would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints [fellow believers] what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. 20 Now unto him [God] that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 21 Unto him [God] be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen [be it so]
RexRed wrote:Frank Apisa wrote:RexRed wrote:Frank you are losing it.
Oh, my aching sides.
You are hilarious.
Lemme give you a bit of advice, Rex....
....never, never, never, never talk about anyone else in this forum "losing it."
You are gonna send someone to the hospital in laughter convulsions.
Ah, my....Rex accusing someone else of losing it.
It was not an accusation Frank, it was an observation.
It was an accusation....and a damn cute one at that!
I love ya, Rex...you never fail to amuse.
RexRed wrote:Frank, you are guessing...
Oh, me...I am rolling on the floor laughing.
This guy should be a stand-up comic.
RexRed wrote:Ephesians 3:14-21
14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16 That he [God] would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints [fellow believers] what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. 20 Now unto him [God] that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 21 Unto him [God] be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen [be it so]
"The general rule is that each one should lead the life the Lord has assigned him, continuing as he was when the Lord called him...Were you a slave when your call came? Give it no thought. Even supposing you could go free, you would be better off making the most of your slavery...."
1 Corinthians 7:17ff
RRQuote:But science cannot study God... God is invisible to science.
That is because Science proceeds as if no god existed.That way You dont have to keep adding a phrase like
'And then a miracle happens"..
Why would science need to concern itself with gods and monsters? Science is waay bigger than God
.
Frank Apisa wrote:RexRed wrote:Ephesians 3:14-21
14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16 That he [God] would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 May be able to comprehend with all saints [fellow believers] what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. 20 Now unto him [God] that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 21 Unto him [God] be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen [be it so]
"The general rule is that each one should lead the life the Lord has assigned him, continuing as he was when the Lord called him...Were you a slave when your call came? Give it no thought. Even supposing you could go free, you would be better off making the most of your slavery...."
1 Corinthians 7:17ff
Frank,
Paul himself was a "slave" of Rome... Look how he made the most of his own slavery. We are still reading his words 2000 years later.
Today, freedom does not come through dying but by living.
farmerman wrote:RRQuote:But science cannot study God... God is invisible to science.
That is because Science proceeds as if no god existed.That way You dont have to keep adding a phrase like
'And then a miracle happens"..
Why would science need to concern itself with gods and monsters? Science is waay bigger than God
.
Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
RexRed wrote:
Frank,
Paul himself was a "slave" of Rome...
No, Rex. Paul was not a slave. Paul, in fact, was a free Roman citizen by birth.
Quote:Look how he made the most of his own slavery.
Paul was not a slave, Rex. You are hallucinating again.
Quote:We are still reading his words 2000 years later.
Yes we are. Finally you got something right.
Quote:Today, freedom does not come through dying but by living.
Stick to your day job, Rex. You ain't gonna make it in the philosophy world.
RexRed wrote:
Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.
Deuteronomy 13:7-12
the first line is mine the second being RR's responseQuote:Why would science need to concern itself with gods and monsters? Science is waay bigger than God
.
Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Well Ill just have to chance it wont I? BTW are you just clicking into your Bible Quotes handheld unit? or do you commit these little "sacred stanzas" to memory to whip em out in situations where you feel that a good Bible verse would do the trick.
I really dont understand how you use these verses o do anything but demonstrate that you can drege up some Bible verses. In a forensic arena, we dont use the very item to use as proof to uphold the item in question.
Ill say, well the Bible is incorre ct in this area and youll come up with a quote from the Bible as if that means anything. Does that even sink in?
Frank Apisa wrote:RexRed wrote:
Frank,
Paul himself was a "slave" of Rome...
No, Rex. Paul was not a slave. Paul, in fact, was a free Roman citizen by birth.
Quote:Look how he made the most of his own slavery.
Paul was not a slave, Rex. You are hallucinating again.
Quote:We are still reading his words 2000 years later.
Yes we are. Finally you got something right.
Quote:Today, freedom does not come through dying but by living.
Stick to your day job, Rex. You ain't gonna make it in the philosophy world.
Thank you Frank...
According to the book of Acts, Paul was a Roman citizen and I stand corrected. This is why I am here, to learn from you all too so I don't say stupid stuff like that. I admit that I have holes in my knowledge. I think this is just a testimony of how important the scriptures are in settling disputes over Biblical doctrine.
Acts 22:25 And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said unto the centurion that stood by, Is it lawful for you to scourge a man that is a Roman, and uncondemned? 26 When the centurion heard that, he went and told the chief captain, saying, Take heed what thou doest: for this man is a Roman. 27 Then the chief captain came, and said unto him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea. 28 And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was free born.
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond [slave] nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
That is the heart of the Christian ethic.
Anything less than that is below the Christian standard of tolerance and equality.
So your scripture Frank about slaves sticking it out. That refers to when they have non Christian masters.
And when it refers to masters treating their slaves with kindness that is also to non Christians masters.
This is again because a true Christian would not place themselves above another person. That is because true Christians understand the fundamental idea of body, soul and holy spirit and the equality of each member within the Christian family of God.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. 5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. 7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. 12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. 17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. 20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. 21 By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff. 22 By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones. 23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment. 24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; 25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. 28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. 29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned. 30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. 31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. 35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: 36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: 37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; 38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us[heaven], that they[paradise] without us should not be made perfect.
Comment:
Had Paul the apostle not been "free born" I may not have been born a Christian.
Doulos is the word translated "servant" in the KJB.
Paul talks of his being a servant (doulos) of Christ. Yes, Biblically a servant is the same as slave. There are different types of slaves in the Bible though. A doulos is a slave that has been freed and yet remains a servant purely out of love and free will for the lord.
Doulos (from strongs)
1. a slave, bondman, man of servile condition
a. a slave
b. metaph., one who gives himself up to another's will those whose
service is used by Christ in extending and advancing his cause
among men
c. devoted to another to the disregard of one's own interests
Meaning c. is the one that relates biblically to Paul being a doulos.
We were slaves to the flesh. We were bought and paid for and then set free. Yet we serve the master out of love and disregard for self interest.
I am thinking Paul used his Roman citizenship to spare his life but he also used this freedom to reach into the world and the future of humanity and spare our spiritual lives too. For this he should be commended not cursed.
farmerman wrote:the first line is mine the second being RR's responseQuote:Why would science need to concern itself with gods and monsters? Science is waay bigger than God
.
Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Well Ill just have to chance it wont I? BTW are you just clicking into your Bible Quotes handheld unit? or do you commit these little "sacred stanzas" to memory to whip em out in situations where you feel that a good Bible verse would do the trick.
I really dont understand how you use these verses o do anything but demonstrate that you can drege up some Bible verses. In a forensic arena, we dont use the very item to use as proof to uphold the item in question.
Ill say, well the Bible is incorre ct in this area and youll come up with a quote from the Bible as if that means anything. Does that even sink in?
I didn't write that Bible you will have to take that up with God...
I am just quoting what it says relative and sometimes contrary to what you are saying. It is either a lie or the truth. That is up to you to experiment with faith and measure the dimensions and potential of the body, soul and spirit. It is up to you in your inner heart to weigh in the balances the benefits with or the cost without God.
FM
A modest portion of the Bible, KJV I have committed to memory.
I am not one to spout off scriptures from memory much though but the "words" of the Bible are especially clear to me.
The individual words (mostly pertaining to faith) I have in memory and they are triggers to scriptures that I know by heart.
I try to memorize scriptures that are rich and full of spiritual meaning.
Like this scripture.
2Corinthians 10:5
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
Comment:
I memorized this within the space of a day years ago.
My memory often fails me and when I go back and read what I am trying to remember I am always awed by how much more beautiful the scripture is compared to how I recalled it.
But still, I remembered the key words and the gist that helped me relocate the scripture.
